JoelR wrote:dabunique wrote:It’s official. MaFe will NOT compete for Colombia in Miss Universe.
Bring on my girls Camila and Kimberly
I didnt like MaFe for Universe. I'm ready for Camilla to step up. Wasnt it rumored Kimberly signed up for Miss Gwand Colombia? I think both would do good in Miss Universe but I want Camila
dabunique wrote:JoelR wrote:dabunique wrote:It’s official. MaFe will NOT compete for Colombia in Miss Universe.
Bring on my girls Camila and Kimberly
I didnt like MaFe for Universe. I'm ready for Camilla to step up. Wasnt it rumored Kimberly signed up for Miss Gwand Colombia? I think both would do good in Miss Universe but I want Camila
Ugh we may have a problem.
Camila is really dedicated to getting married.
Can’t blame her but hopefully she reconsiders
At least we have Kim as a solid back up
georgj16 wrote:UPDATE #3
Yesterday, Saturday June 6th, Natalie gave a TV show, copy of the mails she and Raymundo and the CNB lawer exchanged, and you can see both parties interest in sendind Mafe to Miss Universe BUT, as soon as the CNB lawyer asked for the legal infomation of the new Miss Universe Colombia Organization, Natalie said she couldn't reveal ANYTHING because it was confidential and it was a non disclosure agreement and asked the CNB to give her a contract of the proposal of an agreement with BLANK SPACES. The CNB lawyer, once again told Natalie that it was pretty difficult to even give a proposal without that information. (TBH I don't blame the CNB, that type of information is crucial for business, in my opinion.)
So, basically, things stopped when Natalie didn't give the CNB that information and when the CNB didn't give Natalie a proposal with blank spaces.
Now, people from the new MUC Org, have said that they are still considering their options, if they will do a casting or a competition and that by the end of the month they will give a press conference.
The information on the new rules they have already given is that any girl can compete, doesn't matter if they've competed in other national or international pageants, and that the girls can try every year if they don't win.
Natalie also said Mafe is still considered, if the CNB let her contract go. (Pretty delusional if you ask me.)
JoelR wrote:georgj16 wrote:UPDATE #3
Yesterday, Saturday June 6th, Natalie gave a TV show, copy of the mails she and Raymundo and the CNB lawer exchanged, and you can see both parties interest in sendind Mafe to Miss Universe BUT, as soon as the CNB lawyer asked for the legal infomation of the new Miss Universe Colombia Organization, Natalie said she couldn't reveal ANYTHING because it was confidential and it was a non disclosure agreement and asked the CNB to give her a contract of the proposal of an agreement with BLANK SPACES. The CNB lawyer, once again told Natalie that it was pretty difficult to even give a proposal without that information. (TBH I don't blame the CNB, that type of information is crucial for business, in my opinion.)
So, basically, things stopped when Natalie didn't give the CNB that information and when the CNB didn't give Natalie a proposal with blank spaces.
Now, people from the new MUC Org, have said that they are still considering their options, if they will do a casting or a competition and that by the end of the month they will give a press conference.
The information on the new rules they have already given is that any girl can compete, doesn't matter if they've competed in other national or international pageants, and that the girls can try every year if they don't win.
Natalie also said Mafe is still considered, if the CNB let her contract go. (Pretty delusional if you ask me.)
I also remember Raymundo saying he wouldnt allow Mafe to do any press or promotions for MUC and he was willing to give Natalie another girl who would do promos but Mafe would go to Universe. I think that was a little ridiculous. I think this is the best option, let Mafe finish her Señorita Colombia reign and they find a new girl. This is messier than Desiree vs Magaly
minivaan wrote:[youtube]SFWKezCVRDo[/youtube]
Here you can see this pig basically saying why he doesnt want to give Natalie the chance to send Maria Fernanda to Miss Universe.
He states that regardless if Maria Fernanda goes to Miss Universe or NOT she is still SEÑORITA COLOMBIA, therefore she still has a contract with his org and sponsors and she must complete her duties until the contract is over.
If she were to go to Miss Universe that would mean she would be under contract with 2 organizations making it impossible to have 2 active contracts.
I don't understand however why MAFE cant just surrender her title and go with the new org? Unless she already has a lawsuit waiting for her in case she quits?
minivaan wrote:[youtube]SFWKezCVRDo[/youtube]
Here you can see this pig basically saying why he doesnt want to give Natalie the chance to send Maria Fernanda to Miss Universe.
He states that regardless if Maria Fernanda goes to Miss Universe or NOT she is still SEÑORITA COLOMBIA, therefore she still has a contract with his org and sponsors and she must complete her duties until the contract is over.
If she were to go to Miss Universe that would mean she would be under contract with 2 organizations making it impossible to have 2 active contracts.
I don't understand however why MAFE cant just surrender her title and go with the new org? Unless she already has a lawsuit waiting for her in case she quits?
georgj16 wrote:minivaan wrote:[youtube]SFWKezCVRDo[/youtube]
Here you can see this pig basically saying why he doesnt want to give Natalie the chance to send Maria Fernanda to Miss Universe.
He states that regardless if Maria Fernanda goes to Miss Universe or NOT she is still SEÑORITA COLOMBIA, therefore she still has a contract with his org and sponsors and she must complete her duties until the contract is over.
If she were to go to Miss Universe that would mean she would be under contract with 2 organizations making it impossible to have 2 active contracts.
I don't understand however why MAFE cant just surrender her title and go with the new org? Unless she already has a lawsuit waiting for her in case she quits?
Of course even if he goes she's still Señorita Colombia because it's what she is since november 2019, it's the pageant she won. Had they come to an agreement Mafe's contracts with the CNB and the sponsors would have been the priority, since she signed those contracts SEVEN MONTHS AGO! And that's what Natalie didn't want; Natalie wanted Mafe just for herself. It wouldn't be fair for the CNB to sit and watch how the new organization uses Mafe for economical purposes when Mafe is work of the CNB.
When you sign a contract you just can't say "I quit" like it's nothing.
Juan Sebastian wrote:I am okay with this, I think the time of CNB is up and I am okay with Mafe not going to Miss Universe.
I think Natalie has to be careful with the no transgender rule because that could hurt us like it hurt Valeria, but I hope she can choose a more solid girl no matter how.
JoelR wrote:Juan Sebastian wrote:I am okay with this, I think the time of CNB is up and I am okay with Mafe not going to Miss Universe.
I think Natalie has to be careful with the no transgender rule because that could hurt us like it hurt Valeria, but I hope she can choose a more solid girl no matter how.
I dont get why everyone is only attacking Natalie. Mexico has the same rule and even has a height requirement. Why isnt Lupita under fire as well?
Juan Sebastian wrote:JoelR wrote:Juan Sebastian wrote:I am okay with this, I think the time of CNB is up and I am okay with Mafe not going to Miss Universe.
I think Natalie has to be careful with the no transgender rule because that could hurt us like it hurt Valeria, but I hope she can choose a more solid girl no matter how.
I dont get why everyone is only attacking Natalie. Mexico has the same rule and even has a height requirement. Why isnt Lupita under fire as well?
I am open to Natalie and I want to give her a chance, but I think a lot of people are critical of Lupita, at least I am.
JoelR wrote:Juan Sebastian wrote:I am okay with this, I think the time of CNB is up and I am okay with Mafe not going to Miss Universe.
I think Natalie has to be careful with the no transgender rule because that could hurt us like it hurt Valeria, but I hope she can choose a more solid girl no matter how.
I dont get why everyone is only attacking Natalie. Mexico has the same rule and even has a height requirement. Why isnt Lupita under fire as well?
georgj16 wrote:JoelR wrote:Juan Sebastian wrote:I am okay with this, I think the time of CNB is up and I am okay with Mafe not going to Miss Universe.
I think Natalie has to be careful with the no transgender rule because that could hurt us like it hurt Valeria, but I hope she can choose a more solid girl no matter how.
I dont get why everyone is only attacking Natalie. Mexico has the same rule and even has a height requirement. Why isnt Lupita under fire as well?
I'm not supporting someone who has a law firm of questionable lawyers involved in corruption scandals behind her. Period.
Juan Sebastian wrote:My early favorite is Maria Alejandra, she competed in one of the strongest years of CNB ever, has so much international experience and has improved so much since then. Valeria and Juliana are strong too but for sentimental reasons I want Maria Alejandra to win. I think she could do great at Miss Universe
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