beautywatchnyc wrote:
Of all other unplaced delegates, why do you zero-in on Indonesia ajsy0203? What do want to achieve with this question? Are you proving yourself an apologist that you tend to "romanticize" on the unplaced Indon girls to the detriment of many others who also did not advance? You seem to like to cement their status as if they were overachievers when clearly they're not and far from all that! Likewise, these other losing girls deserve as much space and bandwidth than your fav type/undeserved hype?
ajsy0203 wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
Of all other unplaced delegates, why do you zero-in on Indonesia ajsy0203? What do want to achieve with this question? Are you proving yourself an apologist that you tend to "romanticize" on the unplaced Indon girls to the detriment of many others who also did not advance? You seem to like to cement their status as if they were overachievers when clearly they're not and far from all that! Likewise, these other losing girls deserve as much space and bandwidth than your fav type/undeserved hype?
This is for analysis why suddenly Singapore got the edge against Indonesia at Miss Earth 2020 and as you know these Indonesian PL are still trying to discredit Miss Earth after their endless clapping streak.
beautywatchnyc wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
Of all other unplaced delegates, why do you zero-in on Indonesia ajsy0203? What do want to achieve with this question? Are you proving yourself an apologist that you tend to "romanticize" on the unplaced Indon girls to the detriment of many others who also did not advance? You seem to like to cement their status as if they were overachievers when clearly they're not and far from all that! Likewise, these other losing girls deserve as much space and bandwidth than your fav type/undeserved hype?
This is for analysis why suddenly Singapore got the edge against Indonesia at Miss Earth 2020 and as you know these Indonesian PL are still trying to discredit Miss Earth after their endless clapping streak.
It sounds pretty naive for you to think that. So called "analyses" will not inhibit nor mitigate the haters on casting aspersion to what little has Ms Earth achieved trough the years. It will merely add fire because the comments will feed the trolls.
Geeyourhair wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
Of all other unplaced delegates, why do you zero-in on Indonesia ajsy0203? What do want to achieve with this question? Are you proving yourself an apologist that you tend to "romanticize" on the unplaced Indon girls to the detriment of many others who also did not advance? You seem to like to cement their status as if they were overachievers when clearly they're not and far from all that! Likewise, these other losing girls deserve as much space and bandwidth than your fav type/undeserved hype?
This is for analysis why suddenly Singapore got the edge against Indonesia at Miss Earth 2020 and as you know these Indonesian PL are still trying to discredit Miss Earth after their endless clapping streak.
It sounds pretty naive for you to think that. So called "analyses" will not inhibit nor mitigate the haters on casting aspersion to what little has Ms Earth achieved trough the years. It will merely add fire because the comments will feed the trolls.
Exactly! The only way to stop these Indonesian trolls is to not feed them. Stop talking about Indonesia asj yan ang napansin ko sayo. You always talk about Indonesia like it is a big deal in the world of pageantry if they don't place or a Miss Earth Queen is not able to come and visit Indonesia. What makes Indonesia different from Malaysia for example in the pageant industry?
beautywatchnyc wrote:ajsy0203 wrote:beautywatchnyc wrote:
Of all other unplaced delegates, why do you zero-in on Indonesia ajsy0203? What do want to achieve with this question? Are you proving yourself an apologist that you tend to "romanticize" on the unplaced Indon girls to the detriment of many others who also did not advance? You seem to like to cement their status as if they were overachievers when clearly they're not and far from all that! Likewise, these other losing girls deserve as much space and bandwidth than your fav type/undeserved hype?
This is for analysis why suddenly Singapore got the edge against Indonesia at Miss Earth 2020 and as you know these Indonesian PL are still trying to discredit Miss Earth after their endless clapping streak.
It sounds pretty naive for you to think that. So called "analyses" will not inhibit nor mitigate the haters on casting aspersion to what little has Ms Earth achieved trough the years. It will merely add fire because the comments will feed the trolls.
mybadname wrote:You always ask nonsense question. Why not you answer by your own? Or ask the judges. After all, you are a beauty pageant specialist right? You sounds dumb. Literally.
whyNot? wrote:mybadname wrote:You always ask nonsense question. Why not you answer by your own? Or ask the judges. After all, you are a beauty pageant specialist right? You sounds dumb. Literally.
Either this person is obsessed with Indonesia or he works for missosology to create traffic. Many pinoys here are obsessed with everything about Indonesia, no matter how absurd the topic/question is (which was often the case with TS’s thread) people will then chimed in, which is always good for the site.
ajsy0203 wrote:In your opinion, why do you think the preliminary judges chose Christina Cai of Singapore over Safira Rumimper of Indonesia at Miss Earth 2020 for the top scorers from Asia and Oceania? What was Christina's edge over Safira?
manoypoe wrote:I dont want to discredit the preparation and the desire to place/win of Indonesian delegates. They are sending some competitive delegates in the past. However, they might excel in 1 or 2 prelims but still lag behind in another.
This is the case of Argentina and Chile this year. They both excel, in my opinion, in beauty and fitness prelims but lag behind in intelligence. These two queens are Miss Universe caliber too but they were outsmarted by other queens in their continent who performed in all categories. All delegates must look into this.
Myanmar and Singapore performed excellently in all categories that is why they placed.
For me, it is okay to discuss this so that they will also look into this matter and rethink their strategy. Monica of Indonesia might also continue the nonplacement next year if she fails to prepare in 3 categories.
ajsy0203 wrote:manoypoe wrote:I dont want to discredit the preparation and the desire to place/win of Indonesian delegates. They are sending some competitive delegates in the past. However, they might excel in 1 or 2 prelims but still lag behind in another.
This is the case of Argentina and Chile this year. They both excel, in my opinion, in beauty and fitness prelims but lag behind in intelligence. These two queens are Miss Universe caliber too but they were outsmarted by other queens in their continent who performed in all categories. All delegates must look into this.
Myanmar and Singapore performed excellently in all categories that is why they placed.
For me, it is okay to discuss this so that they will also look into this matter and rethink their strategy. Monica of Indonesia might also continue the nonplacement next year if she fails to prepare in 3 categories.
Thanks for the commentary. Sorry for those who are irritated with this discussion but we need to do a reality check, although brent520 was also right, I have to choose the battles correctly.
Handsama wrote:It’s a numbers game. Singapore outscored Indonesia, plain and simple. And that’s with an Indonesian judge in the Intelligence panel.
Instead of hating on Miss Earth for their non-placements, Indonesian fans need to encourage their most beautiful and smartest women to join MEI. Because in Miss Earth, a woman places based on her own merits which explains why even a semifinals spot for a delegate is already met with so much excitement. This is so unlike in other pageants where placements are dictated by money, crowning invitations, politicking, and large and noisy fanbases.
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