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Postby yellowyam1 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:33 am

    

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blunderer wrote:I'm so glad Denise took over this franchise. Prior to 2018, the previous girls were a mess. Now, ES is gorgeous, I personally like her more than Madison. How did she lose last year though?


Because Madison just kinda honestly demolished the preliminary and the final night (even with the language barrier). I was in both and every time Madison came out the roof wanted to collapse. Estefania looked very elegant and all and had great speaking skills but facially she had a few problems. Back then she also didn't have any surgeries done so many thought she looked older, and her nose was a big problem back then.


No shade but Madison is miles ahead of this woman. Madison looks younger and fresher looking, this girl looks way too mature for her age. Sorry she does not look like a woman in her 20s . She looks like a stunning 45 year old house wife. I am sure she will place though her background is very strong. Not a fan but I have to be honest her body is great and she speaks well, she will probably make top 5 for sure.


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Postby Nina Cleopatra » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:04 pm

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blunderer wrote:I'm so glad Denise took over this franchise. Prior to 2018, the previous girls were a mess. Now, ES is gorgeous, I personally like her more than Madison. How did she lose last year though?


Because Madison just kinda honestly demolished the preliminary and the final night (even with the language barrier). I was in both and every time Madison came out the roof wanted to collapse. Estefania looked very elegant and all and had great speaking skills but facially she had a few problems. Back then she also didn't have any surgeries done so many thought she looked older, and her nose was a big problem back then.


No shade but Madison is miles ahead of this woman. Madison looks younger and fresher looking, this girl looks way too mature for her age. Sorry she does not look like a woman in her 20s . She looks like a stunning 45 year old house wife. I am sure she will place though her background is very strong. Not a fan but I have to be honest her body is great and she speaks well, she will probably make top 5 for sure.




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>=p Denisse Vibes:



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Postby Juan Sebastian » Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:45 am

Divine and underrated, I think she should part her hair to this side. Also I agree with the Denise comparison!

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Postby Boricua21 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:42 pm

Estefania interview yesterday before the Miss USA pageant with Adam Genato.





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Postby Guuy_15 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:35 pm

Oye, vamos hablar sinceramente sobre Estefania.

Pero que puñeta esta pasando con ella? No ha evolucionado para nada.

Sus fotos son unas mega WTF. En ninguna ha salido bella.

Su styling esta horrible.

Han sido dos meses y ya su reinado esta aburridisima. Y no podemos echar la culpa a la Covid porque eso no tiene nada que ver con su styling, su pelo casi quema'o, sus trajes y "look" de señora.

Que le pasa a Denise?

Like, its shocking. Her last IG photo is sooooooooo horrible. Like, Brenda Azaria level of WTF-ness. Why would she even dare to post that? Denise needs to *order* her to remove it ASAP.

WHAT.IS.HAPPENING?

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Postby Boricua21 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:52 pm

Hopefully they're saving the best for later, we know Denise she always saves the best for later, at least from what i see since she took over, with Estefania looks could be a miss or hit, her last photo which im not posting it cause is not the best look. Again hopefully we see some progress in terms of looks overall. Her ability to talk is great no doubt about it, her recent interviews are proof of it, but if Denise wants to at least get a top 5 placement again she needs to work more on Estefania's walk, presence, looks, try to find the best look for her, cause what we're seeing is not working in her favor, i look at other candidates and their progress and is so much than Estefania, but i wouldn't be discouraged yet, she got everything to be on top again. Denise needs to listen more to people and see comments, that way they can discuss what they're doing wrong and what not. Still got faith in Estefania :=p
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Postby Guuy_15 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:24 pm

What I hope doesn't happen is that they rely so much on her communication skills (which is excellent, no question there) that they become sloppy and complacent with her styling, presence, walk, and look.

She can have the absolute best oratory skills and do well in the interview but if you're styling is a mess, your comm skills may not be enough to help you. There have been plenty of doctors, lawyers, professional tv/radio/online hosts, or just general people who need to have great comm skills, have passed (and clapped) through the doors of Miss Universe?

Denise and team need to take a step back, and re-evaluate what they're doing because truth be told, none of it is working. I think she needs to hire younger people who can bring fresh ideas. Porque esa foto que ella tiene en el IG es un asco full.

Yeah Estefania has her podcast, but lets be real, the majority of the world pageant fans are not listening to that. They're basing their judgement of her on her pics, vids, and an occasional interview in English.

And as much as I like Estefania, cada dia veo a esa corona move further and further away from us.
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Postby The Duchess » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:39 pm

I tried not to comment to much for obvious reasons but at this point to me the level of bad styling that she is getting is crazy, and I don't even like her. If the organization and Denise were so hellbent in crowning her then its their RESPONSABILITY to provide her the best styling possible and not hide behind "Strategy" because that type of strategy has been constantly proven to be counterproductive. Truly tell me how many usable pics can be posted here without feeding into the criticism she has gotten since the final night of MUPR? Barely any. Pa colmo, she posts her best content in her IG stories and not her feed which makes it difficult to save and share.

MUPR needs to get rid of Claudia Madrid, Madison worsts looks were hers by a mile but Madison looks beautiful with a potato sack, and it needs to figure out what the hell is up with Clark Ivor and Idelfonso. Madison many times looked greasy when they do her styling, I still remember the airport. If he can only do Denise's and Roselyn's makeup fantastically then I'm sorry we need to find someone else.

At this point I don't know if it's sabotage, the queen or lack of sponsors but it's crazy how they are allowing her to look like that.

And we all know this new organization is not exactly the best at finals styling so I would be very worried of what they will do with her
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Postby Guuy_15 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:24 pm

Denise, Clark, Clauda, Idelfonso, hell even WAPA must be noticing the higher than normal criticism and uproar with Estefania. They need to act fast because the reputation of MUPR/Denise is on the line.

WAPA especially because they're invested in all of this. All the hype, all the "camino a la corona", all the suspense para que Estefania toma fotos como una señora?

At this point, its not even the crown that is slipping away, but at the rate this is going, Estefania may be Denise's first clapper. And it will be Denise's own fault.

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Postby The Duchess » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:19 am

Guuy_15 wrote:Denise, Clark, Clauda, Idelfonso, hell even WAPA must be noticing the higher than normal criticism and uproar with Estefania. They need to act fast because the reputation of MUPR/Denise is on the line.

WAPA especially because they're invested in all of this. All the hype, all the "camino a la corona", all the suspense para que Estefania toma fotos como una señora?

At this point, its not even the crown that is slipping away, but at the rate this is going, Estefania may be Denise's first clapper. And it will be Denise's own fault.



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Postby Boricua21 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:22 am

No doubt the organization needs to step it up if they want a placement at least. If they want crown they need to do it ASAP! First of all i agree Claudia Madrid, she needs to be out, cause as a stylist she is miss or hit, we need someone with fresh and new ideas. Denise if you see this please this don't take this as hard criticism, we only want our best for Estefania.
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Postby Guuy_15 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:41 am

Asi la quiero ver. Every day until Miss Universe. No excuses.

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Postby unbreakable » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:18 am

Both Madison and Kiara were my winners at Miss Universe

but i'm sorry guys , i just can't with this one .. :|


the saddest part is that i don't even see potential in her .
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Postby The Duchess » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:36 am

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Both Madison and Kiara were my winners at Miss Universe

but i'm sorry guys , i just can't with this one .. :|


the saddest part is that i don't even see potential in her .


same but my main criticism is with the organization, you cannot rely on candidates like Kiara and Madison who came virtually ready for international competition thanks to their previous teams. This are the types of queens where the organization has to prove itself, and they are failing.
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Postby valleriam » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:19 pm

Que alguien me explique cómo su evolución ha ido en retroceso...




She has shown nothing but inconsistency with her image. I would cut that hair to give her a fresh air, I would hire someone who knows FASHION, what is this dress? Her outfits are cheap looking. I am sad because she is such a good queen, with so much potential. Her saving grace right now is her comm. skills and intellect. Other than that, LA VEO PEGADA hasta ahora...



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Postby Boricua21 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:40 pm

I wouldn't call it quits with her yet, but MUPR org needs to fire the stylist and find someone with fresh ideas and bring it ASAP. Denise needs to wake up now!!! Other countries got this in the bag. Estefania is diamond in the rough and could be making progress if they do it like now. For now she still a diamond.
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Postby Boricua21 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:43 pm

This happens every time with this organization from what i see, even though our other queens were different from Estefania, this happens all the time and needs to stop, they need to the consistent all the time, if they need to change something for the good hey bring it on, but we need to see her shine, cause i know she can.
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Postby Guuy_15 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:11 pm

The thing is, the "complaints" if you will, regarding Estefania's styling are not isolated comments.

Everywhere you go, on FB, on IG, Misso, Voy, etc., people are complaining about her styling, look, overall presence. Her team has so far been disastrous. They're even complaining about it on El Tio's IG and FB, and he's probably the closest "civilian" to the MUPR team.

Denise and her team HAVE to be reading the comments. They have to see what the overall perception and sentiment is. Que es, que lo leen y se rien?

Why are they sitting on their hands? I refuse to believe that they're so arrogant that they think they know better than the people.

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Re: ⊰╣ ♕ ESTEFANIA SOTO| MISS UNIVERSE PUERTO RICO 2020| OT

Postby Juan Sebastian » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:06 am

That photo was awful, I agree, but do not give up on her or lose faith! She has the main ingredient which is oratory, and is extremely accomplished, IMG will eat up her background. But Miss Universe is turning out to not be that strong this year, especially for Latinas and I think Estefania is leading the pack right now. I agree she cannot rely on just her oratory if she wants to win but she is going to be Top 10 at least, especially compared to other Latinas like Venezuela who will place but not go far and my girl Colombia who unfortunately is not the best speaker. Because of the pandemic, Miss Universe will also probably be an American citizen which gives her a huge advantage and a Latina will have to win again soon because of Telemundo. It could be her! She has some time to find the perfect look, she will be fine and is a crown contender
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Re: ⊰╣ ♕ ESTEFANIA SOTO| MISS UNIVERSE PUERTO RICO 2020| OT

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:58 pm

Juan Sebastian wrote:That photo was awful, I agree, but do not give up on her or lose faith! She has the main ingredient which is oratory, and is extremely accomplished, IMG will eat up her background. But Miss Universe is turning out to not be that strong this year, especially for Latinas and I think Estefania is leading the pack right now. I agree she cannot rely on just her oratory if she wants to win but she is going to be Top 10 at least, especially compared to other Latinas like Venezuela who will place but not go far and my girl Colombia who unfortunately is not the best speaker. Because of the pandemic, Miss Universe will also probably be an American citizen which gives her a huge advantage and a Latina will have to win again soon because of Telemundo. It could be her! She has some time to find the perfect look, she will be fine and is a crown contender


Yeah agreed. Maybe she doesn't look great in every photo, but right now she's probably the strongest Latina chosen, and is one of the most IMG girls we have. Right now I see her, Canada, and South Africa in top three together.
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Postby rockondude » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:25 pm

She is the real deal people Trust me. This girl body, presence and overall package is extremely strong. Her communication skills are far better then madison who was good but kind of shallow when it comes to knowledge and topics.

She is gonna Mug the other contestants with her huge frame and presence.
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Postby Guuy_15 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:29 pm

She is giving me Lucille Ball vibes here. I am definitely feeling this. :hx

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Re: ⊰╣ ♕ ESTEFANIA SOTO| MISS UNIVERSE PUERTO RICO 2020| OT

Postby Nina Cleopatra » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:41 pm

YEESSSS! The Changes are dramatic! Now she can finally get her hair up. :!! Who said the Org was being Lazy? :-j My only concern now is that the Miss Universe Org needs to see Estefania in Person cause in person is where she can make a big impact and not only in terms of height and proportions, but her Aura as well. She has that "Isla" Girl Vibe. Very Lares, Orocovis, San Sebastian, Toa Alta, Corozal Vibe.
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Postby Nina Cleopatra » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:27 pm

Loving the Changes done! :!!

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