Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?





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Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:11 am

    

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Had Tamaryn answered the final word very well and won the pageant over pageant veteran Catriona Gray, it would had been a first 3 peat victory at Miss Universe and second at MUO pageant system since Texas Aces at Miss USA in 1985-1989.

Aside from her "average" response to the Final Word, why do you think Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby JamesCedricLim » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:46 am

In short.. it was not her destiny to be a Miss Universe. i will quote Ms. Universe 1969 " To be a Miss Universe is a luck and destiny".
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby SisterStella » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:47 am

Tamaryn was just NOT AT PAR with Catriona. The moment Catriona won the national pageant SHE WAS UNSTOPPABLE all the way to her landing in the airport of Thailand until the coronation night. Once Catriona took the lead she never looked back, there was never a moment when she fell behind a bit from the race, SHE LED THE RACE FROM START TO FINISH.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby artaestes » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:23 am

she did not , catriona happened...
without gray, green is in to win it....
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby Angela » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:48 pm

I thought she lacked charisma and had mediocre stage presence.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby bootsguy » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:37 pm

Because she did not join Miss Earth first before competing in Miss Universe just to gain grounds and find a perfect timing...
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby Oscillate » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:36 am

overrated.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby lucy » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:56 am

SHE'S MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN CATRIONA, I LOVE HER SKINTONE! :-* :)>- :=p
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby bastyalex » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:29 am

SisterStella wrote:Tamaryn was just NOT AT PAR with Catriona. The moment Catriona won the national pageant SHE WAS UNSTOPPABLE all the way to her landing in the airport of Thailand until the coronation night. Once Catriona took the lead she never looked back, there was never a moment when she fell behind a bit from the race, SHE LED THE RACE FROM START TO FINISH.
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Catriona was undoubtedly the one to beat in 2018. She was one of the very few 'Sure Wins' in pageant history, alongside Paulina Vega, Rolene Strauss, Kylie Verzosa, Amelia Vega, and Aishwarya Rai. BUT, I disagree with the statement that 'there was never a moment when she fell behind a bit from the race'. In my opinion, Catriona risked winning the Miss Universe crown when she chose to tone down her swimsuit performance during the Finals Night as compared to the Prelims. Her energy and level of competitiveness during that round was just not what I'm used to seeing from her. I felt that she toned it down too much that time. I dont know how else to explain it, but there was really something different and off with her overall vibe that time, and honestly that was the only time I ever felt nervous that she might not win. I think she was a safe third in scores behind SA and Venezuela heading into the Top 5. Whereas Tamaryn did the opposite by stepping up her finals performance as compared to her more subtle prelims performance. Had it not been due to her shoes piercing her gown, which obviously affected her confidence big time, she might have had given a better response to the Top 3 Q&A. Still, regardless of how good Tamaryn's (or Sthefany's) answer would have been, Cat's Top 3 Q&A was just so unreachable and impossible to beat so most likely Catriona would still have won it.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby vinusya » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:05 pm

she's destined to be Miss Earth.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby alex sivixay » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:45 pm

Isn't it clear she tripped over her gown a couple times yet did not deliver during the final Q&A
I honestly can even see Canada replacing her in the top 5 tbh her and Venezuela were just okay in the top 10 round
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby RainBernardi » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:44 am

to be honest, she has this strong presence but was awkward during the evening gown. During the final Q&A, she almost missed the point.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby Astara » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:40 am

lucy wrote:SHE'S MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN CATRIONA, I LOVE HER SKINTONE! :-* :)>- :=p


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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby rockondude » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:41 am

She got to far into the competition, during swimsuit she had trying to hard vibes and the evening gown was a disaster. IMG was just desperate to crown a black women because there was a controversy when Demi won due to her been a white women representing a black nation.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby Filiverse » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:24 am

Tamaryn was a princess, but Catriona was a queen. She simply was not as strong as Catriona and didn't possess the right aura. After her evening gown performance, she started losing her charisma and confidence.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby rrhotj » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:36 am

we will never know because the judges’ scores are never revealed. But for me, it was not the swimsuit but the top 5 q and a when she got nervous that catriona might not make the cut. In swimsuit she was okay. She could not do her walk because venezuela was EATING AIR TIME WITH HER SLOW WALK.cat had to slow down to get a moment when the country’s name is called. But still, Catriona delivered.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby chrisy_pageant » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:38 am

Her evening gown performance made her appear like she didn't want to win. Like she wanted others to make it to the next cut and not her. In her place would have been Curacao, Thailand or Canada.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby chechelles » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:43 am

her hair is not appropriate for the pageant and for her...........and CATRIONA is INCOMPARABLE!
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby arkenken » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:23 am

Tamaryn is one of the faces of 2018. I honesty think she was prettier than Catriona. But it is still a head scratcher for me how she entered top 5. Her swimsuit and gown performance isn’t good at all. I disagree with the comment above that she was ahead of Cat going in to the top 5.

She choked big time in the final 3 question and blaming it in her gown performance is a bit of a stretch since I think she did fairy well on the top 5 question.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby cabra_chupa » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:54 am

BACK TO BACK WAS WITHIN REACH AND SHE WAS FLAWLESS THE WHOLE TIME IN INTRO SPEECH TO SWIMSUIT UNTIL SHE FALTERED IN HER EVENING GOWN! :)>-
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby poker_man » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:30 am

She didn't give a rehearsed/memorized answer which was the requirement during that year, since they introduced the speaking engagement prototype in 2018. To be honest, she could have done more when it came to the Q&A but she answered in the most simple manner. Venezuela was actually the bigger threat when it came down to the finals but Tamaryn was really stunning which is why she went that far. Also, politics played a huge factor. No way will they waste Catriona when there are already two Pinoy judges at the panel, and Chavit was also donating so much money to IMG.

Anyway, it's all in the past now and Tamaryn is far more accomplished as a medical practitioner and she bears way more elegance and class than (the local showbiz aspirant) Catriona will ever be in terms of beauty and career. Even Catriona's biggest fan base in the Philippines has disowned her and she's pretty much cancelled in the country she represented as of 2020. In terms of doing something relevant in the world, Tamaryn has contributed way more than the calculated Catriona who only wanted to cement a showbiz career (which failed) by using Miss Universe.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby sarahmarrow » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:55 pm

Angela wrote:I thought she lacked charisma and had mediocre stage presence.


Well she has a charisma but wasn't well spoken enough compared to catriona.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby The.Apprentice » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:05 pm

Catriona was in a league of her own the whole pageant, Tamaryn was her biggest competition but it wasn't near enough to upset Catriona. It wasn't meant to be for Tamaryn.
Though I will say both her and Catriona are one of the strongest top 2 ever, possibly in the top 5 of the last two girls standing ever.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby qwertyu » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:45 pm

IMO, i think she's being favoured to win. she was the best in opening Speech, her SW performance was great, but she stumbled a bit in EG. her answer in the top 5 was also the best, and honestly, if she nailed that top 3 question, she would have won.

Tamaryn and Cat were head to head round after round.

Opening Speech - Tamaryn wins
Swimsuit - Tamaryn = Catriona
Evening Gown - Catriona wins
Top 5 question - Tamaryn wins
Top 3 question - definitely Catriona.

i have said this before, in a perfect world, Zozibuni would have been Cat's first runner-up, and Tamaryn would be Miss Universe 2019. i mean, Tamaryn is a perfect IMG mould.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby chapfallen_guy » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:08 pm

Her answer to the final question was the least impressive among the last three queens standing. Miss Venezuela had even a more resonant, profound response than hers and she delivered it with strong conviction. Of course, Catriona just gobbled the mic and spewed it in front of the gagging crowd lol
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby misterology » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:09 am

qwertyu wrote:IMO, i think she's being favoured to win. she was the best in opening Speech, her SW performance was great, but she stumbled a bit in EG. her answer in the top 5 was also the best, and honestly, if she nailed that top 3 question, she would have won.

Tamaryn and Cat were head to head round after round.

Opening Speech - Tamaryn wins
Swimsuit - Tamaryn = Catriona
Evening Gown - Catriona wins
Top 5 question - Tamaryn wins
Top 3 question - definitely Catriona.

i have said this before, in a perfect world, Zozibuni would have been Cat's first runner-up, and Tamaryn would be Miss Universe 2019. i mean, Tamaryn is a perfect IMG mould.





HAHAHA, AFTER THE FINAL WORD. IT WAS A MIC DROP FOR CAT. HER ANSWER WAS NEAR PERFECT. TAMRYN JUST FELL BEHIND. MISS VENEZUELA SHOULD’VE BEEN FIRST RUNNER UP. BUT SOUTH AFRICA COULD’VE HAD THE FIRST 3 PEAT IF TAMRYN WON.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby JoelR » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:40 pm

It was a battle between Tamaryn and Catriona up until evening gown. Taamaryn's styling was off. Her make up and hair style were a big no. The dress was ok. But what finished killing her chances was when she tripped on her gown. She lost her composure and never fully gained it back. After that it was a race for 1st runner up. The dress looked like a silver wrap towel. Did nothing for her figure. A more gold version of her National dress would've helped her. She has what it takes to pull off a cape dress. As for a three peat, difficult to say. We have to take in consideration how Miss South Africa would've reacted to a back 2 back. That would've changed the whole casting process.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby Astara » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:24 pm

poker_man wrote:She didn't give a rehearsed/memorized answer which was the requirement during that year, since they introduced the speaking engagement prototype in 2018. To be honest, she could have done more when it came to the Q&A but she answered in the most simple manner. Venezuela was actually the bigger threat when it came down to the finals but Tamaryn was really stunning which is why she went that far. Also, politics played a huge factor. No way will they waste Catriona when there are already two Pinoy judges at the panel, and Chavit was also donating so much money to IMG.

Anyway, it's all in the past now and Tamaryn is far more accomplished as a medical practitioner and she bears way more elegance and class than (the local showbiz aspirant) Catriona will ever be in terms of beauty and career. Even Catriona's biggest fan base in the Philippines has disowned her and she's pretty much cancelled in the country she represented as of 2020. In terms of doing something relevant in the world, Tamaryn has contributed way more than the calculated Catriona who only wanted to cement a showbiz career (which failed) by using Miss Universe.


WHO CARES ABOUT POLITICS? PHILIPPINES CAN BUY A CROWN EVERY YEAR IN EACH AND EVERY PAGEANT AND I DONT FUCKIN CARE AS LONG AS ITS NOT COMING FROM MY SAVINGS!

MISS PHILIPPINES CAN SIT DOWN ON EVERY JUDGES DICKS AND LICK PAULA SHUGARTS WRINKLY PUSSY AND I DONT GIVE A DAMN SINCE THE ONLY THING I CARE ABOUT IS WINNING THE CROWN (WHICH PAGEANT SHOULD BE) FOR THE PHILIPPINES WHICH IS GIVING ME SO MUCH HAPPINESS FOR FREE!

CATRIONA CAN GO TO HELL AFTER THE PAGEANT AND I DONT FUCKIN CARE! SHE FULFILLED HER DUTY AND MADE THE SHOW EXTRA ORDINARILY AMAZING!

EVEN TAMARYN BECAME THE PRESIDENT OF AFRICA SHE WILL NEVER BE MISS UNIVERSE. GOOD LUCK TO HER AS MEDICAL PRACTITIONER. AS OF CATRIONA, EVEN IF SHE BURNED IN HELL, THE TITLE MISS UNIVERSE 2018 WILL NEVER BE ERASED TILL THE END OF THE WORLD. HER FACE WILL MAKE YOU ETERNALLY BITTER EVERYTIME YOULL RESEARCH "MISS UNIVERSE 2018" IN THE INTERNET :%))
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby TranniesRUs » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:02 pm

poker_man wrote:She didn't give a rehearsed/memorized answer which was the requirement during that year, since they introduced the speaking engagement prototype in 2018. To be honest, she could have done more when it came to the Q&A but she answered in the most simple manner. Venezuela was actually the bigger threat when it came down to the finals but Tamaryn was really stunning which is why she went that far. Also, politics played a huge factor. No way will they waste Catriona when there are already two Pinoy judges at the panel, and Chavit was also donating so much money to IMG.

Anyway, it's all in the past now and Tamaryn is far more accomplished as a medical practitioner and she bears way more elegance and class than (the local showbiz aspirant) Catriona will ever be in terms of beauty and career. Even Catriona's biggest fan base in the Philippines has disowned her and she's pretty much cancelled in the country she represented as of 2020. In terms of doing something relevant in the world, Tamaryn has contributed way more than the calculated Catriona who only wanted to cement a showbiz career (which failed) by using Miss Universe.


You automatically lose credibility when you show yourself just as a hater who’ll say anything to bring someone down.
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Re: Why Tamaryn Green fell short of winning Miss Universe?

Postby manoypoe » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:28 pm

SisterStella wrote:Tamaryn was just NOT AT PAR with Catriona. The moment Catriona won the national pageant SHE WAS UNSTOPPABLE all the way to her landing in the airport of Thailand until the coronation night. Once Catriona took the lead she never looked back, there was never a moment when she fell behind a bit from the race, SHE LED THE RACE FROM START TO FINISH.
=D> =D> =D>


This I fully agree. Tamaryn is beautiful but something was missing. She was unsure of herself. She did not have a strategy or had a strong desire to win it all. Catriona was on a different level that anyone who came her way would be slayed.
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