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Postby artaestes » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:53 am

    

veena is almost perfect for miss universe but there is one thing that i am holding back for her to get chosen...
she does not look thai at all, she is like miss form the south asian nation( india, nepal, pakistan)...
btw amanda is really cute and i will support her 100 percent :hx
this is the 2nd time i will be rooting for a thai girl in miss u (last one is chalita),


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Postby qwertyu » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:28 am

meh. not a fan. she's stunning and all, but she lacks the oomph factor, weak stage presence and borderline plain.
luckily, she'll be wearing Thailand sash. If she's wearing Malaysia sash, i doubt people will pay attention on her. she does looks like Miss Universe Malaysia 2019.

Can Veena still join again?
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Postby alex sivixay » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:28 pm

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Amanda, Punika and Vena deserved the top 3 spots Praew and Cindy just messed up their chances.

Another thing in the top 3 Q&A Punika was wayyy worse than the other two but don't get me wrong Amanda did not really answer the question while Vena's answer was generic and she did mention the King which you know is a VERY controversial topics in Thailand causing big protests.

I still think Amanda earned that crown her overall performance was better than Vena and Punika and I don't get the hate on her just because you understand only her answer does not mean she is the worst.

Also stop comparing her to Emmy the only thing Emmy has is her oratory


How Punika's answer was the worst? Can you elaborate? Performance wise, Punika led in both swimsuit and evening gown.


The question was very tricky. They use Wat Arun to confuse the girls. The question is Wat Aron is the Icon/Signature of Thailand, if you get to be the next MUT how would you show the iconic side of you as a Thai representative?

Punika's answer was she would give the MUO and other participants the Thai coins as the icon of Thailand because it has all the Thai signatures in it. and she said it shows in her behavior as she is truly and fully Thai blood

I think she misunderstood the Wat Arun part since it was not the question itself.
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Postby missantartica » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:35 pm

artaestes wrote:veena is almost perfect for miss universe but there is one thing that i am holding back for her to get chosen...
she does not look thai at all, she is like miss form the south asian nation( india, nepal, pakistan)...
btw amanda is really cute and i will support her 100 percent :hx
this is the 2nd time i will be rooting for a thai girl in miss u (last one is chalita),


So looking at other countries, by your definition, how would you categorize a "USA" look? those who only look like Native Americans? or only aboriginal Aussies should represent Australia?
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Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:47 pm

artaestes wrote:veena is almost perfect for miss universe but there is one thing that i am holding back for her to get chosen...
she does not look thai at all, she is like miss form the south asian nation( india, nepal, pakistan)...
btw amanda is really cute and i will support her 100 percent :hx
this is the 2nd time i will be rooting for a thai girl in miss u (last one is chalita),


Lol, so how much Thai is Amanda? Enough already for saying Veena doesn’t look Thai. If you weigh both Veena and Amanda, Veena is definitely more Thai than Amanda, who is a halfie and speaks English as her first language.

Amanda is gorgeous but she was not the best of the night. She did not answer the final question but still won =;)) My heart is broken for Praew, Veena and Punika, especially Praew and Punika because this is the last pageant that they can compete.

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Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:55 pm

I’m so sick of Thailand for crowning so many half-white contestants in recent years. No offense to those girls, but if it becomes a norm, it’s definitely an insult to local Thai women. We need more Aniporn, Chalita to represent Thailand. Either Praew or Punika would be a perfect Thai representative.

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Postby taleyblue » Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:07 pm

Jonathan Nguyen wrote:I’m so sick of Thailand for crowning so many half-white contestants in recent years. No offense to those girls, but if it becomes a norm, it’s definitely an insult to local Thai women. We need more Aniporn, Chalita to represent Thailand. Either Praew or Punika would be a perfect Thai representative.
next year Thailand will crown another half-white :-D because they can speak English well! but i like this girl to represent us!she is a Thai British
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Postby manoypoe » Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:21 pm

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Amanda, Punika and Vena deserved the top 3 spots Praew and Cindy just messed up their chances.

Another thing in the top 3 Q&A Punika was wayyy worse than the other two but don't get me wrong Amanda did not really answer the question while Vena's answer was generic and she did mention the King which you know is a VERY controversial topics in Thailand causing big protests.

I still think Amanda earned that crown her overall performance was better than Vena and Punika and I don't get the hate on her just because you understand only her answer does not mean she is the worst.

Also stop comparing her to Emmy the only thing Emmy has is her oratory


How Punika's answer was the worst? Can you elaborate? Performance wise, Punika led in both swimsuit and evening gown.


The question was very tricky. They use Wat Arun to confuse the girls. The question is Wat Aron is the Icon/Signature of Thailand, if you get to be the next MUT how would you show the iconic side of you as a Thai representative?

Punika's answer was she would give the MUO and other participants the Thai coins as the icon of Thailand because it has all the Thai signatures in it. and she said it shows in her behavior as she is truly and fully Thai blood

I think she misunderstood the Wat Arun part since it was not the question itself.


Her answer was much better than Amanda. Amanda's answer never really answered the question. =O/

Punika's reply if you analyze means she knows the coin, the history and it is very admirable (I dont know the images in our coins and even in most of our bills :%)) ). She answered directly and adding that being herself is already fully Thai - that statement means a lot. I think, you are just trying to spin it in favor of Amanda who by the way, I like her too. I was just disappointed that she won undeservingly. Her victory was tainted a bit.
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Postby Queen of the Clouds » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:10 pm

Amanda is very pretty but I would like Thailand to step away from this halfie prototype they're gravitating towards; it's fine every once in awhile, but three of the past four titleholders have been half-white now, it's kind of whitewashing Thai culture imo, and that's a criticism I have for many Asian countries, not just Thailand. I would love for more Aniporn and Chalita-type girls.

Right now, I don't really see Amanda winning Miss Universe, but this is still so early. She will really need to work on those communication skills. Obviously, I don't speak Thai, but judging by what has been said, she may very well have had the best answer, but that definitely doesn't mean she had a good answer. In this age, if you can't speak then you can't win. She has the looks and all the moves but she will need to be trained on how to speak like a winner, because right now I would not be shocked if she doesn't make it out of the opening statement round honestly.

I feel gutted for Punika who has to end her pageantry career like this, but Thailand has so many capable women who can easily win them a Miss Universe crown in the next few years. I still don't know if it'll be Amanda, but it's definitely coming soon. Emmy also gave a good first effort but she really needs to give herself time to grow and mature and then come back.
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Postby Stoichio » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:15 pm

Queen of the Clouds wrote:Amanda is very pretty but I would like Thailand to step away from this halfie prototype they're gravitating towards; it's fine every once in awhile, but three of the past four titleholders have been half-white now, it's kind of whitewashing Thai culture imo, and that's a criticism I have for many Asian countries, not just Thailand. I would love for more Aniporn and Chalita-type girls.

Right now, I don't really see Amanda winning Miss Universe, but this is still so early. She will really need to work on those communication skills. Obviously, I don't speak Thai, but judging by what has been said, she may very well have had the best answer, but that definitely doesn't mean she had a good answer. In this age, if you can't speak then you can't win. She has the looks and all the moves but she will need to be trained on how to speak like a winner, because right now I would not be shocked if she doesn't make it out of the opening statement round honestly.

I feel gutted for Punika who has to end her pageantry career like this, but Thailand has so many capable women who can easily win them a Miss Universe crown in the next few years. I still don't know if it'll be Amanda, but it's definitely coming soon. Emmy also gave a good first effort but she really needs to give herself time to grow and mature and then come back.




Can we also please ask MUO that for once, USA be represented by a native American (you know what I mean).
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Postby zashkibuta » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:19 pm

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muzical wrote:I'm happy aswell sad at the same time..happy because India has more chance of placing now and sad because Veena was robbed again(what stupid decision)

Honestly speaking if this dumb girl places and India claps again then I'm very certain that Miss Universe is all about politics and favouritism..


To be fair she is pretty though although a bit common and even if I wanted Veena to win but I don't see an issue with her placing at Miss Universe as long as she performs as well as Fahsai and Maria, but she must do better at q&a than them if she wants to win.


It is not fair calling her dumb just because Veena didn't win. Worse than that you said that because you are just being nationalism bastard. I think you should know that Veena would never won the crown anyway, because she is not Miss Universe type and doesn't have Miss Universe factors, and I think the judges saw that. I like Veena a lot. She is a sweet and very nice person but had to admit it is not gonna be her.


You better STFU your foul mouth..do you think this girl will bring crown to your country? Just compare her with Zozibini's q and a round last year and you will get your answer lolll...actually I'm happy because India has more chance of placing now if MUO is fair enough...


that Thai forummer has always been that way...foul-mouthed and offensive. He hated everything that is Philippines and loved his candidates to the core though most of them looked like hookers
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Postby manoypoe » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:21 pm

There is a better translation or transcript of TOP3's answers in IG @titasofpageantry. Check and you will see that Punika's answer has more substance.
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Postby Queen of the Clouds » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:25 pm

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Queen of the Clouds wrote:Amanda is very pretty but I would like Thailand to step away from this halfie prototype they're gravitating towards; it's fine every once in awhile, but three of the past four titleholders have been half-white now, it's kind of whitewashing Thai culture imo, and that's a criticism I have for many Asian countries, not just Thailand. I would love for more Aniporn and Chalita-type girls.

Right now, I don't really see Amanda winning Miss Universe, but this is still so early. She will really need to work on those communication skills. Obviously, I don't speak Thai, but judging by what has been said, she may very well have had the best answer, but that definitely doesn't mean she had a good answer. In this age, if you can't speak then you can't win. She has the looks and all the moves but she will need to be trained on how to speak like a winner, because right now I would not be shocked if she doesn't make it out of the opening statement round honestly.

I feel gutted for Punika who has to end her pageantry career like this, but Thailand has so many capable women who can easily win them a Miss Universe crown in the next few years. I still don't know if it'll be Amanda, but it's definitely coming soon. Emmy also gave a good first effort but she really needs to give herself time to grow and mature and then come back.


Can we also please ask MUO that for once, USA be represented by a native American (you know what I mean).


Since you mentioned it, I would love for a Native American to represent the US, but where the problem arises is that 1) It's rare to find Native Americans who have absolutely no mixed race blood in them, 2) Native Americans are only 1.6% of the country, 3) They are one of the most impoverished groups in the country, and properly training for a pageant is expensive, and 4) They'd have to win a state title first.

Not to mention, this also isn't at all the same thing as what I was talking about.
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Postby keyss » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:28 pm

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next year Thailand will crown another half-white :-D because they can speak English well! but i like this girl to represent us!she is a Thai British


That would surprise absolutely no one. White men's daughters are becoming the face of Southeast Asia. And it seems only foreigners see the problem with this. @-)
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Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:47 pm

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Queen of the Clouds wrote:Amanda is very pretty but I would like Thailand to step away from this halfie prototype they're gravitating towards; it's fine every once in awhile, but three of the past four titleholders have been half-white now, it's kind of whitewashing Thai culture imo, and that's a criticism I have for many Asian countries, not just Thailand. I would love for more Aniporn and Chalita-type girls.

Right now, I don't really see Amanda winning Miss Universe, but this is still so early. She will really need to work on those communication skills. Obviously, I don't speak Thai, but judging by what has been said, she may very well have had the best answer, but that definitely doesn't mean she had a good answer. In this age, if you can't speak then you can't win. She has the looks and all the moves but she will need to be trained on how to speak like a winner, because right now I would not be shocked if she doesn't make it out of the opening statement round honestly.

I feel gutted for Punika who has to end her pageantry career like this, but Thailand has so many capable women who can easily win them a Miss Universe crown in the next few years. I still don't know if it'll be Amanda, but it's definitely coming soon. Emmy also gave a good first effort but she really needs to give herself time to grow and mature and then come back.


Can we also please ask MUO that for once, USA be represented by a native American (you know what I mean).


Since you mentioned it, I would love for a Native American to represent the US, but where the problem arises is that 1) It's rare to find Native Americans who have absolutely no mixed race blood in them, 2) Native Americans are only 1.6% of the country, 3) They are one of the most impoverished groups in the country, and properly training for a pageant is expensive, and 4) They'd have to win a state title first.

Not to mention, this also isn't at all the same thing as what I was talking about.


I absolutely agree with you. Also, there is a huge difference between the USA and Thailand/Philippines. USA is a multicultural and multiracial country. IT IS A COUNTRY OF IMMIGRANTS THAT WAS CREATED BY IMMIGRANTS AND FOR IMMIGRANTS. Neither Thailand nor Philippines is. Can’t compare the USA to Thailand/Philippines. In addition, what bothers me the most is that MUTO tends to favor halfies over their local women =O/

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Postby fortela » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:59 pm

i feel really bad for veena she has such a beautiful face tall and very intelligent.. she has everything and could even pass for a thai..by the way many thais have some indian mixtures as seen from their DNA analysis...when amanda was crowned everything was suddenly quiet from the video that ive watched. i read there were some boos but i heard nothing from that video. to all thai fans out there how is amanda being received now especially with the pageant fans...there is nothing wrong with sending halfies esp if they are already a part of your race. many filipinos have some traces of spanish blood and other europeans and are considered pure filipinos..although many nationalistic filipinos will deny this
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Postby ms_melanie » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:19 pm

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Looking at this pic, Punika is the queen. She looks fabulous!
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Look at Praew. Such a Thai beauty. She also gives me Kiara Ortega and Olivia Culpo vibes. Too bad she messed up her top 5 answer.

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Re: AMANDA OBDAM IS MISS UNIVERSE THAILAND 2020

Postby Stoichio » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:28 pm

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Queen of the Clouds wrote:Amanda is very pretty but I would like Thailand to step away from this halfie prototype they're gravitating towards; it's fine every once in awhile, but three of the past four titleholders have been half-white now, it's kind of whitewashing Thai culture imo, and that's a criticism I have for many Asian countries, not just Thailand. I would love for more Aniporn and Chalita-type girls.

Right now, I don't really see Amanda winning Miss Universe, but this is still so early. She will really need to work on those communication skills. Obviously, I don't speak Thai, but judging by what has been said, she may very well have had the best answer, but that definitely doesn't mean she had a good answer. In this age, if you can't speak then you can't win. She has the looks and all the moves but she will need to be trained on how to speak like a winner, because right now I would not be shocked if she doesn't make it out of the opening statement round honestly.

I feel gutted for Punika who has to end her pageantry career like this, but Thailand has so many capable women who can easily win them a Miss Universe crown in the next few years. I still don't know if it'll be Amanda, but it's definitely coming soon. Emmy also gave a good first effort but she really needs to give herself time to grow and mature and then come back.


Can we also please ask MUO that for once, USA be represented by a native American (you know what I mean).


Since you mentioned it, I would love for a Native American to represent the US, but where the problem arises is that 1) It's rare to find Native Americans who have absolutely no mixed race blood in them, 2) Native Americans are only 1.6% of the country, 3) They are one of the most impoverished groups in the country, and properly training for a pageant is expensive, and 4) They'd have to win a state title first.

Not to mention, this also isn't at all the same thing as what I was talking about.


I know and I understand it very well what you mean. Your opinion or idea on this matter is VERY MUCH ANTI-INCLUSIVITY (diversity and inclusion). Your opinion promotes divisiveness and exclusivity by limiting and defining what a candidate from a certain country should be.

Ever come across the word MICROCOSM? Each country, (or many countries, to be more precise) or even each square mile of land on earth has become a microcosm of the world. In this modern day and age, people from different countries and races have become more tolerant, understanding and welcoming to each other. Only some narrow-minded people can’t understand that.

Now, regarding the case of the US. For sure in the distant past, the country has gone through this phase (i.e. migration/immigration, settling in the land of Uncle Sam or intermarry other races); and it has formed what its populace is today (though sadly, as you said, the native Americans have remained poor; and not only that, those early European settlers did not only commit genocide to make sure their race won’t flourish. And that is the result of these narrow-minded people’s tyranny.

If each country’s citizen has remained exclusive-minded as the previous centuries, the world would be as chaotic as it was in those ages and would not reach the order that we presently have.

So, not because the US had undergone through this phase many centuries ago, someone already has the right to demand to a certain country (in this case, Thailand) what would their representative be. This is tantamount to telling a US immigrant, that he/she has no right to represent the US in any affair/event just because she is merely an immigrant.

Besides, These women have one parent to be native of the country they are competing in. And that itself gives them the right. And they choose to compete in Thailand, not the country of their other parent.

I would have understood your frustration if the girl hops from her mother’s country’s pageant to her father’s country’s pageant until she wins; but it’s not the case! And for many years, Thailand has sent pure-blooded Thais in the past. It’s not like they have been doing this since time immemorial.


And lastly, aren’t pageants nowadays advocates DIVERSITY & INCLUSION??
If you were one of those who supported Angela Ponce; then, you are obviously contradicting yourself.


CIAO! :-*
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Re: AMANDA OBDAM IS MISS UNIVERSE THAILAND 2020

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:27 pm

Stoichio wrote:
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Stoichio wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:Amanda is very pretty but I would like Thailand to step away from this halfie prototype they're gravitating towards; it's fine every once in awhile, but three of the past four titleholders have been half-white now, it's kind of whitewashing Thai culture imo, and that's a criticism I have for many Asian countries, not just Thailand. I would love for more Aniporn and Chalita-type girls.

Right now, I don't really see Amanda winning Miss Universe, but this is still so early. She will really need to work on those communication skills. Obviously, I don't speak Thai, but judging by what has been said, she may very well have had the best answer, but that definitely doesn't mean she had a good answer. In this age, if you can't speak then you can't win. She has the looks and all the moves but she will need to be trained on how to speak like a winner, because right now I would not be shocked if she doesn't make it out of the opening statement round honestly.

I feel gutted for Punika who has to end her pageantry career like this, but Thailand has so many capable women who can easily win them a Miss Universe crown in the next few years. I still don't know if it'll be Amanda, but it's definitely coming soon. Emmy also gave a good first effort but she really needs to give herself time to grow and mature and then come back.


Can we also please ask MUO that for once, USA be represented by a native American (you know what I mean).


Since you mentioned it, I would love for a Native American to represent the US, but where the problem arises is that 1) It's rare to find Native Americans who have absolutely no mixed race blood in them, 2) Native Americans are only 1.6% of the country, 3) They are one of the most impoverished groups in the country, and properly training for a pageant is expensive, and 4) They'd have to win a state title first.

Not to mention, this also isn't at all the same thing as what I was talking about.


I know and I understand it very well what you mean. Your opinion or idea on this matter is VERY MUCH ANTI-INCLUSIVITY (diversity and inclusion). Your opinion promotes divisiveness and exclusivity by limiting and defining what a candidate from a certain country should be.

Ever come across the word MICROCOSM? Each country, (or many countries, to be more precise) or even each square mile of land on earth has become a microcosm of the world. In this modern day and age, people from different countries and races have become more tolerant, understanding and welcoming to each other. Only some narrow-minded people can’t understand that.

Now, regarding the case of the US. For sure in the distant past, the country has gone through this phase (i.e. migration/immigration, settling in the land of Uncle Sam or intermarry other races); and it has formed what its populace is today (though sadly, as you said, the native Americans have remained poor; and not only that, those early European settlers did not only commit genocide to make sure their race won’t flourish. And that is the result of these narrow-minded people’s tyranny.

If each country’s citizen has remained exclusive-minded as the previous centuries, the world would be as chaotic as it was in those ages and would not reach the order that we presently have.

So, not because the US had undergone through this phase many centuries ago, someone already has the right to demand to a certain country (in this case, Thailand) what would their representative be. This is tantamount to telling a US immigrant, that he/she has no right to represent the US in any affair/event just because she is merely an immigrant.

Besides, These women have one parent to be native of the country they are competing in. And that itself gives them the right. And they choose to compete in Thailand, not the country of their other parent.

I would have understood your frustration if the girl hops from her mother’s country’s pageant to her father’s country’s pageant until she wins; but it’s not the case! And for many years, Thailand has sent pure-blooded Thais in the past. It’s not like they have been doing this since time immemorial.


And lastly, aren’t pageants nowadays advocates DIVERSITY & INCLUSION??
If you were one of those who supported Angela Ponce; then, you are obviously contradicting yourself.


CIAO! :-*


Please reread what I said. "it's fine every once in awhile, but three of the past four titleholders have been half-white now;" what is going on is the opposite of diversity and inclusion. Crowning only girls with white ancestry is not promoting diversity, it is promoting white supremacy. The same issue was had in the US when for 40 years only white women could win the title. Goodbye.
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Re: AMANDA OBDAM IS MISS UNIVERSE THAILAND 2020

Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:33 pm

Queen of the Clouds wrote:
Stoichio wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:
Stoichio wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:Amanda is very pretty but I would like Thailand to step away from this halfie prototype they're gravitating towards; it's fine every once in awhile, but three of the past four titleholders have been half-white now, it's kind of whitewashing Thai culture imo, and that's a criticism I have for many Asian countries, not just Thailand. I would love for more Aniporn and Chalita-type girls.

Right now, I don't really see Amanda winning Miss Universe, but this is still so early. She will really need to work on those communication skills. Obviously, I don't speak Thai, but judging by what has been said, she may very well have had the best answer, but that definitely doesn't mean she had a good answer. In this age, if you can't speak then you can't win. She has the looks and all the moves but she will need to be trained on how to speak like a winner, because right now I would not be shocked if she doesn't make it out of the opening statement round honestly.

I feel gutted for Punika who has to end her pageantry career like this, but Thailand has so many capable women who can easily win them a Miss Universe crown in the next few years. I still don't know if it'll be Amanda, but it's definitely coming soon. Emmy also gave a good first effort but she really needs to give herself time to grow and mature and then come back.


Can we also please ask MUO that for once, USA be represented by a native American (you know what I mean).


Since you mentioned it, I would love for a Native American to represent the US, but where the problem arises is that 1) It's rare to find Native Americans who have absolutely no mixed race blood in them, 2) Native Americans are only 1.6% of the country, 3) They are one of the most impoverished groups in the country, and properly training for a pageant is expensive, and 4) They'd have to win a state title first.

Not to mention, this also isn't at all the same thing as what I was talking about.


I know and I understand it very well what you mean. Your opinion or idea on this matter is VERY MUCH ANTI-INCLUSIVITY (diversity and inclusion). Your opinion promotes divisiveness and exclusivity by limiting and defining what a candidate from a certain country should be.

Ever come across the word MICROCOSM? Each country, (or many countries, to be more precise) or even each square mile of land on earth has become a microcosm of the world. In this modern day and age, people from different countries and races have become more tolerant, understanding and welcoming to each other. Only some narrow-minded people can’t understand that.

Now, regarding the case of the US. For sure in the distant past, the country has gone through this phase (i.e. migration/immigration, settling in the land of Uncle Sam or intermarry other races); and it has formed what its populace is today (though sadly, as you said, the native Americans have remained poor; and not only that, those early European settlers did not only commit genocide to make sure their race won’t flourish. And that is the result of these narrow-minded people’s tyranny.

If each country’s citizen has remained exclusive-minded as the previous centuries, the world would be as chaotic as it was in those ages and would not reach the order that we presently have.

So, not because the US had undergone through this phase many centuries ago, someone already has the right to demand to a certain country (in this case, Thailand) what would their representative be. This is tantamount to telling a US immigrant, that he/she has no right to represent the US in any affair/event just because she is merely an immigrant.

Besides, These women have one parent to be native of the country they are competing in. And that itself gives them the right. And they choose to compete in Thailand, not the country of their other parent.

I would have understood your frustration if the girl hops from her mother’s country’s pageant to her father’s country’s pageant until she wins; but it’s not the case! And for many years, Thailand has sent pure-blooded Thais in the past. It’s not like they have been doing this since time immemorial.


And lastly, aren’t pageants nowadays advocates DIVERSITY & INCLUSION??
If you were one of those who supported Angela Ponce; then, you are obviously contradicting yourself.


CIAO! :-*


Please reread what I said. "it's fine every once in awhile, but three of the past four titleholders have been half-white now;" what is going on is the opposite of diversity and inclusion. Crowning only girls with white ancestry is not promoting diversity, it is promoting white supremacy. The same issue was had in the US when for 40 years only white women could win the title. Goodbye.


You made a really good point. 3 out of 4 is a bit too much for promoting diversity. Hope they don’t turn MUT into a playground for half white contestants.

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Re: AMANDA OBDAM IS MISS UNIVERSE THAILAND 2020

Postby zoey » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:04 am

i think the current "but can she speak?" requirement to be Miss Universe is the one pushing Thailand to send halfies to Miss Universe

They will still continue selecting half white girls to Miss Universe as long the "declamation" trend is in place

also, MUT is not really a "Senorita Colombia" or a Miss SA or Miss France contest where they select a queen, it's basically a pageant to determine Thailand's representative to Miss Universe

also, Thailand is a Buddhist "live and let live" country so enough with the "it's a slap to local Thai girl" argument because nobody is really seeing it that way. The halfies trend is because they want someone who speaks fluent English, if you look at the Thai entertainment industry, it's still local Thai girls who's dominating so there's no need to worry cos real Asian beauty is still preferred
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Re: AMANDA OBDAM IS MISS UNIVERSE THAILAND 2020

Postby song1 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:36 am

sorry guys im going to be real with y'all ... Amanda is very forgettable ... she is cute.. sure but there is nothing about her that i dont already seen before... atm she is like carbon copy of Catriona .. even more so than Jennifer.. the last year Miss Thailand .. but don't worry Thailand will still make the cut since IMG needs the fans and sponsor support

this was a weak batch for Thailand ... i did not like any of the contestants ... Punika is too plastic and old looking ... not fresh at all and that Emmy is also plain girl ... and Veena is not my type of beauty either too artificial looking.

oh and Thailand has been sending half white contestants since like forever ... even during all those years that they did not place so this is not a new phenomena ... like MISS Universe Thailand 2012 ... Farida Waller... the reason why you guys did not pay attention to Farida Waller is because Thailand did not place during those years ... lol thats why i said earlier that Amanda OBDAM's beauty is forgettable it is because Thailand send these types A lot


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Re: AMANDA OBDAM IS MISS UNIVERSE THAILAND 2020

Postby cabra_chupa » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:23 am

FOR FILIPINOS: DOES SHE LOOK LIKE MOCHA USON? =;)) =;)) =;)) =;))
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Postby Kakak » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:41 am

Congrats Thailand. Amanda Obdam is beautiful, she looks healthy and fresh. I don't get some people's fascination over Punika, her fake cheeks are scary-looking and she looks 40.
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Postby manoypoe » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:27 am

Here comes the Queen. We will miss her pasabog in Miss Universe stage.

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Postby yellowyam1 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:28 am

So sad that my black girl didn’t place she is so damn stunning
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