1. Bakit hanggang top 20 lang si Gazini 2. Buti pa si tahiland umabot ng top 5 3. Maliit yung venue at hindi maganda production ng Miss Universe this year. 4. Hindi nasunod yung top 20 then top 6 agad 5. Binalik nila ulit yung selection per continent 6. Puro babae yung mga judges 7. Boring yung singer guest nila 8. Maikli at mabilis ang Miss Universe final presentation this year
kayo ano mga napuna niyo...???
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Catriona did a farewell walk almost crying because of the great achievement she brought to our country and she will never ever forget that experience. Though her reign is over and she will finally going back to PH, expect a lot of commercial offers, enormous billboard print in EDSA, stint shows, movie offers, hosting rakets and will forever embracing her advocacy by partially giving from her own income. Finally, have her parents settle down coz Cat will become richer than ever like Pia, live a fabulous life and an inspiration prolly a mentor to all pinay beauty QUEEN aspirants
I have a feeling Catriona Gray will become a "brand" kasi sabi nia mag bu business sia, and that is again to help her advocacy. She is that share-your-blessing woman!
We are waiting for you Queen Catriona!!!
Phillippines will give you so much love and support after your reign!
Tv Commercial Dominance: 1990s - Sharon Cuneta 2000s - Juday, Kris Aquino 2010s - Sarah G., Pia W., Maine M., Liza S. 2020s - Catriona Gray!!!
Simply all marketing heads knows who will sell more on product endorsement!
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PHILIPPINES is the NEW Venezuela - Ms.Stella Araneta - Ms.International 1960
OK lang din naman for me. I have a feeling na kinapos sila sa panahon dahil matagal bago sila naka pag announce ng venue. So expected ko na medyo mag suffer ang production and activities (naitawid naman nila) . Less than 2 weeks lang nga ang run ng Miss Universe this year e. Pero for me kasi nanunuod ako ng Miss Universe for the candidates (their performances, their gown choice, their national costume, what they say on stage etc.) ...bonus na for me kung super bongga yung stage or production.....end of the day I'm very satisfied with the results.
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"BE WHO YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU FEEL, BECAUSE THOSE WHO MIND DON'T MATTER AND THOSE WHO MATTER DON'T MIND" -Dr. Seuss
Dami nyang kuda puro ek ek, bitter? Aminin nyo matatalino mga naka pasok sa top 10 top 5 at top 3,, lahat sila magaling magsalita di pilot t memorize gaya ni gazino na hanggang sa speech halata ng halata,,matindi pa mga educational backgrounds nila sus open your eyes haha,,, back to back haha asan katol pa mga barangay level na hamog
They are not looking for models anymore. They are looking for accomplished women of substance. I thought Thailand, Albania and Puerto Rico are the template but South Africa proved that brains and background trumps everything superficial.
Sino pa yung performer nila? Super Chipipay! Walang boses, mas magaling pa mga contestants sa TheVoiceKids! She is so trying hard to be Jlo..Sobrang I Dont Know Her
Regarding sa Winner Expected na they are looking for strong black winner Para sa marketing nila about the All Black Winners from MsAmerica to MsTeenUSA, MUSA and Miss Universe diba? May marketing strategy para buhayinang dying na Miss Universe
misterology wrote:EEWWWW WORST MISS UNIVERSE SEASON, AND WHY IS MISS THAILAND BEING A COPYCATRIONA GRAY? UGH..... GET OUTTA HERE, SHES SO FAKE, MISS INDONESIA WAS THE BEST. Ms SA DESERVED THE CROWN AND WILL BE A GOOD MISS U. BUT CAT SET THE BAR HIGH.
So much talk and commercial breaks I would rather have skipped for faster conclusion, because it was middle of the night here in Europe. The stage felt small. Otherwise the content and the winners were ok, except for that one part..whoever the woman singing was, she should keep her day job. My ears...
Im kinda confused how they invited Miss America. Isnt that conflict of interests? I guess its okay as long as they dont mention Miss America but did they?
[color=#800000]The winner last night was accomplished. Very smart, opinionated lady and can definitely represent the brand IMG/MUO as a spokesperson. She might not be the most beautiful in that group, but her intelligence and personality as a person put her on top of the game. Trump era is definitely gone and IMG is looking for someone that can represent them as a woman of substance and prowess.[color]
I've always believed that as women we have the power to redefine our generation. When we raise our voices together, the words 'woman power' become more than just a phrase. They become a movement.
I wanted my year to be a reign with purpose, from advocating for quality education for all to raising awareness to HIV and AIDS. I've start to use my voice for good. Thank you to mom and dad for always believing in me. Paula and Ester for your mentorship, the Miss Universe Organization and Team Catriona, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
And to my beloved Philippines, isang karangalan po ito. You endlessly inspire me and give me hope. Maraming salamat sa inyong lahat. Above all, thank you God. I lift everything to glorify and honor you. As I close this chapter, I do so with a grateful heart.
To everyone with a dream, know that your dreams are valid. And on your path you are never denied, only redirected.
Kahit si Gazini pa rin ang manalo, it's very obvious that the entire production this year is very subpar.
Agree with numbers 3 and 7 mo TS.
Akala ko naman, may state-of-the-art ek ek itong Tyler Perry studios. Ganun lang pala siya kaliit.
And anyare sa singer? Maski performer, tinipid?! Baka kung si Morissette or si KZ pa andyan, na-entertain pa siguro mga manonood.
And let me add the National Costume blunder. Susme? Yung akala mong OK na, pwede pa rin palang gawin na magkamali.
I mean, Miss Philippines na ang nanalo, tapos ang ilalagay niyo diyan si Miss Malaysia. Hindi na kayo nahiya dun sa tao. Hindi ba yan na-rehearse? Or nasabihan man lang si Steve na iba ang lalabas? Pero kahit na. Hindi pwedeng isabak niyo si Miss Malaysia kasi hindi naman siya yung nanalo eh. So bakit niyo ipapa-explain sa kanya yung costume niya samantalang hindi nga yung costume niya ang nanalo?
Lastly, yung hosting ni Steve is pilit na. And just when I thought na mas magiging lively yung presentation dahil nga dadagdagan niya ng comedy (according to him), eh mas lalong naging patay yung audience. Why? Hindi masakyan ng "international audience" ang kind of humor niya. Yung humor niya, mga Kano lang naman ang makaka-gets. So dun sa mga parts na nagpa-punchline siya, parang nakarinig yata ako ng kuliglig somewhere, hehehehehe
1. THE OPENING DANCE NUMBER. SHORT BUT AT LEAST THEY BROUGHT IT BACK.
2. THE TOP 20. FOR ME, PORTUGAL AND VENEZUELA WAS A SURPRISE.
3. THE WINNER, SOUTH AFRICA, WAS UNEXPECTED BUT DESERVING.
NOW FOR THE THINGS THAT GOT SCREWED UP:
1. CAMERA ANGLES: WTF?!?!? THERE WAS ONE CAMERA THAT WAS FOCUSED ON SOUTH AFRICA'S NECK. THEN ONE CAMERA FOCUSED ON THE SIDE STAGE. FOR PAGEANT THAT IS KNOWN FOR AMAZING CAMERA SHOTS, THIS WAS JUST BAD.
2. THE PAGEANT WAS IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA. NOT ONCE THEY FEATURED THE CITY DURING THE FINALS NIGHT. NOT EVEN A TOURISM PROMOTION FOR THE CITY. AND THE STAGE DID NOT REFLECT THE CITY AS WELL.
3. ALLY BROOKS. WTH IS SHE? DOES MISS UNIVERSE RAN OUT OF MONEY TO GET WELL KNOWN SINGER? PEOPLE CRITICIZE PAGEANTS FOR BRINGING IN LD SINGERS OR HAS BEEN SINGERS. I WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT HAS BEEN THAT HAS A BILLBOARD CHART THAN AN UNKNOWN.
4. IT SEEMS AT THE TOP 5 NO ONE REMEMBERS THEIR PLACING OR WHERE TO GO ANYMORE. NERVES KICKED IN?
5. THE VOICE OVER DURING SWIMSUIT. WE DID NOT HEAR WHAT COLOMBIA HAS TO SAY.
6. TOO MUCH TALKING. WE WANT TO SEE THEM IN SWIMSUITS AND EVENING GOWNS. NOT SEE STEVE HARVEY GETTING ALL CHATTY CHATTY
There’s no nice way to say this. The pageant has become a leftist/feminist propaganda machine aimed at forcing PC culture down our throats. They’ve succeeded in taking out the beauty in beauty pageants. SA and PR are simply not attractive. I’m not saying they’re butt ugly, but they’re miles from being stunning. They need more (or any) straight males as judges. Why are only women chosen to judge beauty? What happened to gender equality?
I love Catriona Gray’s gray gown . O di ba ? Gray gray . Plus as an outgoing queen , the color scheme is very appropriate . You don’t want to take the thunder away from the incoming queen but the design makes it clear that she’s a beauty to behold. Her hand jewelry is a fashion statement . Simply exquisite. Her hairstyle at the back is very original .
It was boring af too many speeches, q&a and statements, it actually felt like I was watching Miss World and Miss International I liked all the Tops especially that Top 5 and the amazing winner that we now have.
But I want Miss Universe to go back to its 2000’s years... Top 20 SS and Top 10 EG, then the Top 5, Q&A and the runner ups announcement
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Jim_From_Boston wrote:There’s no nice way to say this. The pageant has become a leftist/feminist propaganda machine aimed at forcing PC culture down our throats. They’ve succeeded in taking out the beauty in beauty pageants. SA and PR are simply not attractive. I’m not saying they’re butt ugly, but they’re miles from being stunning. They need more (or any) straight males as judges. Why are only women chosen to judge beauty? What happened to gender equality?
Thank you. And it is absolutely FRIGHTENING that Puerto Rico advocated censorship on the Internet. Sorry, freedom of speech means you may listen to an opinion that you may disagree with and what she is basically saying that any voice that may offend or "attack" some people have to be silenced. Who made that determination? That answer alone I would've kept her out of the top 3 but she made it all the way to first runner-up.
Jim_From_Boston wrote:There’s no nice way to say this. The pageant has become a leftist/feminist propaganda machine aimed at forcing PC culture down our throats. They’ve succeeded in taking out the beauty in beauty pageants. SA and PR are simply not attractive. I’m not saying they’re butt ugly, but they’re miles from being stunning. They need more (or any) straight males as judges. Why are only women chosen to judge beauty? What happened to gender equality?
Thank you. And it is absolutely FRIGHTENING that Puerto Rico advocated censorship on the Internet. Sorry, freedom of speech means you may listen to an opinion that you may disagree with and what she is basically saying that any voice that may offend or "attack" some people have to be silenced. Who made that determination? That answer alone I would've kept her out of the top 3 but she made it all the way to first runner-up.
Exactly! Some of the responses were downright scary, but then again why should we expect a potential Miss Universe to weigh in on such policies? I so wish we could go back to picking a Miss Universe based primarily (doesn’t even have to be exclusively) on physical beauty.
Just another thought on PR, I was astounded that she tried to play it off that she’s biracial. For crying out loud she’s as white as the arctic snow. What could she possibly know about discrimination? She’s an American like me, and just find it hard to believe that she experienced any real hardships as a result of being partially Puerto Rican. The MUO has turned into such a joke.
Let us get it out in the open, the Gazini early elimination hurt but it was healthy pain. First of all, Gazini did not lose, she was outplayed. Gazini Christiana Jordi Ganados competed like a real Filipino queen. The grit of her character and her humility is very Bisaya and the latter is the one that makes me proud of her. We are a gracious people, we are never sore losers but we lose because others played it better and never because we never stopped trying. Sadly, the universe conspired not to give it to Gazini.
The Catriona effect played to her disadvantage. Other countries sent delegates who were well-spoken like Cat and also had the wardrobe to match it. Gazini was as prepared in the gowns and costume. Cary Santiago was at his best element. The Best National Costume is proof enough and he has nothing to prove because his body of work speaks for itself. Gazini also came as the best version of herself, polished and engaging. And because Catriona was our queen, it was normal to stay away from her mold. However, delegates from Thailand, SA, etc., clearly took inspiration from her. Catriona Gray is a tough act to follow so Gazini had the unfortunate task of being that act.
The all-female selection committee also was a factor. Let us face it, Catriona is more appealing to women because she has this cherubic qualities that bring out the maternal instinct. So, women like her easily. Even if she wears sexy outfits, she comes off just as endearing and non-threatening to women judges. I was wrong when I said Gazini does not intimidate women because the results says it all. Gazini is really sexy. If she competed in the Trump MUO, I can honestly say she would have won it even if she would not speak at all. But an all female selection committee most of whom have capitalized on their good looks and allure (Vega and Mori are Trump winners) is a different animal. When wholesome girls like Catriona enter the room, the alpha-females becomes maternal and they want to protect her and a small mistake here and there is not an issue. The moment Gazini entered the room, their initial impression would be matrimonial. The alluring girls make them want to protect their husbands. Hence, you have to disarm them because they want you to fail. That was the dilemma Gazini and Mexico was faced which Iceland or Indonesia would not have any problem.
The sash factor also affected Gazini because she is not used to going to a pageant as a frontrunner. She was always an underdog even during the Bb. Pilipinas pageant. So, she is used to doing her preparations trying to slay the dragon or like a phoenix rising from the ashes. This time, she came as Miss Philippines. She was the frontrunner from a country that comes to an Miss Universe pageant preparing for three Miss Universe pageants. So, she cannot be the phoenix rising from the ashes because for most of the delegates, she is the deity from the Philippines who comes down from heaven like past deity Catriona just to play with the mortals in a beauty pageant.
The most crucial reason are the Filipino fans who have reached obnoxious status in an international capacity. For many Pinoy fans, because we see the sucess of Megan, Pia, Bea Rose, Kylie, and Catriona, many felt we pare extensions of the achievement. Kung umasta ang mga beki, kung makalait ng isang kandidata ay parang sila lang ang tama at kasing ganda sila ni Ahtisa kung makapang-okray.
Real talk, guys. We are the reason why pageants are hesitant to invest in a Filipina queen kasi we are the "best fans" and it means they have to deal with the most nitpicky supporters. Saan ka ba nakakita ng beki na mataba, maputla at ordinaryo (real talk, may pagka-pangit) na may YouTube channel giving out advises to internationaal beauty queens about their figures and faces. Kahit pa may konting bilbil si Panama, kung 38 ang waistline ko, wala akong karapatan magtalak at laitin siya na parang ako si Gazini. Pero marami sa atin ang ganito. So even if we have the most grounded candidate, she ends up being negated because she has the most obnoxious fans. And yes we are the most toxic kasi andami natin. Hindi kasi uso sa China ang pageant kaya tayo ang pinaka-madami.
On a side note, the reason why mayabang ang mga Pinoy is not because we are nationalistic. Not by a mile. Team Philippines ang mga beki ngayon dahil nananalo tayo. Pero nung time na parang mga muchacha tayo sa Venezuela, maraming mga kilala kong beks, halos gusto na magpaampon kay Hugo Chavez at Osmel Souza. And I saw that propensity to be unfaithful to our national identity. Marami ang ayaw kay Gazini dahil hindi pa din sila masaya dahil mas gusto nila si Patch. Kaya this time, sumapi sa Team Fahsai na pwede naman sanang manahimik na lang sana.
So, am I happy of the results? Yes. It was a good choice. Zozinini Tunzi is a worthy winner. I still believe Mexico was a political anomaly and Thailand has some concessions but Gazini lost not because she did something wrong but because the other delegates had something the judges wanted more. An all male judge or an all gay judge would have different results guaranteed.
But my greatest appreciation is for the team who took the greatest sacrifice to be part of the community of Team Gazini like Rodin Gilbert B.flores and team KF, Aces and Queens, Jonas Borces (KF Cebu), Cary Santiago, Roy Erwin Tizon, Malayka Yamas, Bee Urgello, Mark Anthony Tenchavez (Shandar Shoes), Krestepani Janson and sop many others especially Gazini for representing the Philippines with dignity.
A title with a crown is nice but without dignity, it is just a sash with shiny stones. Dignity humanizes a queen. Even without the title, your dignity already made you a queen. In behalf of all Filipinos who love pageants and the spirit of nationalism and unity it brings to our nation, we thank you.
PS : Tyler Perry is the champion for the blacks. Three of the four important pageants already have black winners, Miss America, Miss Teen USA and Miss USA. What an ending would it be if the first black South African win Miss Universe completing the four black beauties. South Africa produced two white Miss Universe already. Knowing how Zozibini performs, maybe that was also considered when the MUO presented the idea to Perry. Because Atlanta is the worst place to hold a Miss Universe.
Charina Mae Echosera wrote:Let us get it out in the open, the Gazini early elimination hurt but it was healthy pain. First of all, Gazini did not lose, she was outplayed. Gazini Christiana Jordi Ganados competed like a real Filipino queen. The grit of her character and her humility is very Bisaya and the latter is the one that makes me proud of her. We are a gracious people, we are never sore losers but we lose because others played it better and never because we never stopped trying. Sadly, the universe conspired not to give it to Gazini.
The Catriona effect played to her disadvantage. Other countries sent delegates who were well-spoken like Cat and also had the wardrobe to match it. Gazini was as prepared in the gowns and costume. Cary Santiago was at his best element. The Best National Costume is proof enough and he has nothing to prove because his body of work speaks for itself. Gazini also came as the best version of herself, polished and engaging. And because Catriona was our queen, it was normal to stay away from her mold. However, delegates from Thailand, SA, etc., clearly took inspiration from her. Catriona Gray is a tough act to follow so Gazini had the unfortunate task of being that act.
The all-female selection committee also was a factor. Let us face it, Catriona is more appealing to women because she has this cherubic qualities that bring out the maternal instinct. So, women like her easily. Even if she wears sexy outfits, she comes off just as endearing and non-threatening to women judges. I was wrong when I said Gazini does not intimidate women because the results says it all. Gazini is really sexy. If she competed in the Trump MUO, I can honestly say she would have won it even if she would not speak at all. But an all female selection committee most of whom have capitalized on their good looks and allure (Vega and Mori are Trump winners) is a different animal. When wholesome girls like Catriona enter the room, the alpha-females becomes maternal and they want to protect her and a small mistake here and there is not an issue. The moment Gazini entered the room, their initial impression would be matrimonial. The alluring girls make them want to protect their husbands. Hence, you have to disarm them because they want you to fail. That was the dilemma Gazini and Mexico was faced which Iceland or Indonesia would not have any problem.
The sash factor also affected Gazini because she is not used to going to a pageant as a frontrunner. She was always an underdog even during the Bb. Pilipinas pageant. So, she is used to doing her preparations trying to slay the dragon or like a phoenix rising from the ashes. This time, she came as Miss Philippines. She was the frontrunner from a country that comes to an Miss Universe pageant preparing for three Miss Universe pageants. So, she cannot be the phoenix rising from the ashes because for most of the delegates, she is the deity from the Philippines who comes down from heaven like past deity Catriona just to play with the mortals in a beauty pageant.
The most crucial reason are the Filipino fans who have reached obnoxious status in an international capacity. For many Pinoy fans, because we see the sucess of Megan, Pia, Bea Rose, Kylie, and Catriona, many felt we pare extensions of the achievement. Kung umasta ang mga beki, kung makalait ng isang kandidata ay parang sila lang ang tama at kasing ganda sila ni Ahtisa kung makapang-okray.
Real talk, guys. We are the reason why pageants are hesitant to invest in a Filipina queen kasi we are the "best fans" and it means they have to deal with the most nitpicky supporters. Saan ka ba nakakita ng beki na mataba, maputla at ordinaryo (real talk, may pagka-pangit) na may YouTube channel giving out advises to internationaal beauty queens about their figures and faces. Kahit pa may konting bilbil si Panama, kung 38 ang waistline ko, wala akong karapatan magtalak at laitin siya na parang ako si Gazini. Pero marami sa atin ang ganito. So even if we have the most grounded candidate, she ends up being negated because she has the most obnoxious fans. And yes we are the most toxic kasi andami natin. Hindi kasi uso sa China ang pageant kaya tayo ang pinaka-madami.
On a side note, the reason why mayabang ang mga Pinoy is not because we are nationalistic. Not by a mile. Team Philippines ang mga beki ngayon dahil nananalo tayo. Pero nung time na parang mga muchacha tayo sa Venezuela, maraming mga kilala kong beks, halos gusto na magpaampon kay Hugo Chavez at Osmel Souza. And I saw that propensity to be unfaithful to our national identity. Marami ang ayaw kay Gazini dahil hindi pa din sila masaya dahil mas gusto nila si Patch. Kaya this time, sumapi sa Team Fahsai na pwede naman sanang manahimik na lang sana.
So, am I happy of the results? Yes. It was a good choice. Zozinini Tunzi is a worthy winner. I still believe Mexico was a political anomaly and Thailand has some concessions but Gazini lost not because she did something wrong but because the other delegates had something the judges wanted more. An all male judge or an all gay judge would have different results guaranteed.
But my greatest appreciation is for the team who took the greatest sacrifice to be part of the community of Team Gazini like Rodin Gilbert B.flores and team KF, Aces and Queens, Jonas Borces (KF Cebu), Cary Santiago, Roy Erwin Tizon, Malayka Yamas, Bee Urgello, Mark Anthony Tenchavez (Shandar Shoes), Krestepani Janson and sop many others especially Gazini for representing the Philippines with dignity.
A title with a crown is nice but without dignity, it is just a sash with shiny stones. Dignity humanizes a queen. Even without the title, your dignity already made you a queen. In behalf of all Filipinos who love pageants and the spirit of nationalism and unity it brings to our nation, we thank you.
PS : Tyler Perry is the champion for the blacks. Three of the four important pageants already have black winners, Miss America, Miss Teen USA and Miss USA. What an ending would it be if the first black South African win Miss Universe completing the four black beauties. South Africa produced two white Miss Universe already. Knowing how Zozibini performs, maybe that was also considered when the MUO presented the idea to Perry. Because Atlanta is the worst place to hold a Miss Universe.
The moment Gazini entered the room, their initial impression would be matrimonial. The alluring girls make them want to protect their husbands. Hence, you have to disarm them because they want you to fail.
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