Homosexuality in the Bible




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Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby MALACHITE » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:11 am

    

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Matthew Vines: Marriage equality is on the rise, but despite this trend, religious beliefs remain a major obstacle to acceptance. Many conservative Christians believe that the Bible condemns all same-sex relationships. That question drove my own intensive study of this issue when I came to terms with being gay, as with my parents and my church in Kansas believed that gay marriage was wrong. But what I learned whenever I studied the relevant scripture passages changed my parent's minds along with the views of many other Christians in my life.

They are six passages in the bible that refer to same sex behavior, three in the Old Testament and three in the New Testament. The most famous passage is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. God sends two angels disguised as men into the City of Sodom where the men of Sodom threatened to rape them. The angels blind the men, and God destroys the city. For centuries, this story was interpreted as God's judgment on same-sex relations, but the only form of same-sex behavior described is a threatened gang rape. Ezekiel 16:49 sums up the stories focused on violence and hostility towards strangers. "Now, this was the sin of your sister, Sodom. She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed, and unconcerned, they did not help the poor and needy."

In Leviticus 18:22, male same-sex intercourse is prohibited, and violators are to receive the death penalty. "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." Other things called abominations in the Old Testament include having sex during a woman's menstrual period, eating pork, rabbit, or shell fish, and charging interest on loans, but they're part of the Old Testament law code, which was fulfilled by Jesus.

Hebrews 8:13 says that the old law is obsolete and aging. Romans 10:4 says that Christ is the end of the law, so the Old Testament doesn't settle the issue for Christians, but lets look to the New Testament which contains the longest reference to same-sex behavior in the bible.

In Romans 1:26-27, people who turn away from God to worship idols are then turned over to their own lusts and vices. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones, in the same way, men committed shameful acts with other men and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. Paul's words here are clearly negative, but the behavior he condemns is lustful. He makes no mention of love, commitment, or faithfulness.

His description of same-sex behavior is based solely on a burst of excess and lust. In the ancient world, same-sex behavior mainly occurred between adult men and adolescent boys, between masters and their slaves, or in prostitution. Most of the men engaged in those practices were married to women, so same-sex behavior was widely seen as stemming from out of control lust and vice of excess, like gluttony and drunkenness. And while Paul labeled same sex behavior unnatural, he says in 1 Corinthians 11:14 that for men to wear their hair long also goes against nature, and most Christians interpret that as a reference to cultural conventions.

In the last two likely references to same-sex behavior in the Bible, two Greek words, malakoi and arsenokoitai, are included in lists of people who will not inherit God's kingdom. Many modern translators have rendered these terms as sweeping statements about gay people, but the concept of sexual orientation didn't even exist in the ancient world. Yes, Paul did not take a positive view of same-sex relations, but the context he was writing in is worlds apart from gay people in committed, monogamous relationships. The Bible never addresses the issues of sexual orientation or same-sex marriage, so there's no reason why faithful Christians can't support their gay brothers and sisters. It's time.

If you'd like to learn more, check out my new book, "God and the Gay Christian," then, sign with the Reformation Project to make a difference in your church.

There may be small errors in this transcript.

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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby Chupando's Angels » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:15 am

Kuya, may nagsabi sakin, 2 lang daw ang nilalang ng Diyos, babae at lalake lang, si Adan at si Eba lang.
Kaya yung mga bading daw at tomboy sa impyerno pupunta, totoo po ba toh :-O :-O :-O :%((
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Postby MALACHITE » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:18 am

Chupando's Angels wrote:Kuya, may nagsabi sakin, 2 lang daw ang nilalang ng Diyos, babae at lalake lang, si Adan at si Eba lang.
Kaya yung mga bading daw at tomboy sa impyerno pupunta, totoo po ba toh :-O :-O :-O :%((


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Postby ELIJAH29 » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:24 am

God loves the sinners but not the sin.
Mapababae or mapalalaki, mapabakla or mapatomboy ka man, lahat nagkakasala.
Kahit bakla ka man or tomboy at nag repent ka syempre maliligtas ka.
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Postby Charina Mae Echosera » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:50 am

God is a merciful, loving and an unbiased God, so, siguro i jujudge niya tayo based sa dami ng kasalanan or kabutihan na ginawa natin during our lifetime regardless of our sexual preferences 8-> 8-> :=p
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Postby Hunk_Superman » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:34 am

Chupando's Angels wrote:Kuya, may nagsabi sakin, 2 lang daw ang nilalang ng Diyos, babae at lalake lang, si Adan at si Eba lang.
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Postby MALACHITE » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:40 am

Matthew Vines is seeking for an acceptance of a monogamous same sex relationship and I agree with him.
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Postby Stoichio » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:44 am

The church that I attend to says that God condemns the sin but not the sinner. He actually loves them and He wants them to come to Him. He does not need in His church the righteous ones who proclaim they are 'not sinners'.


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Postby Mariana Erwin » Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:29 am

Hunk_Superman wrote:
Chupando's Angels wrote:Kuya, may nagsabi sakin, 2 lang daw ang nilalang ng Diyos, babae at lalake lang, si Adan at si Eba lang.
Kaya yung mga bading daw at tomboy sa impyerno pupunta, totoo po ba toh :-O :-O :-O :%((


Me sinabi si Mirriam Quiambao dati..... @-)
Di ko lang ma recall.... 8-} 8-} 8-}


I'm not homophobic and she said this (this is the only comment from her that I disagree)....

"Homosexuality is not a sin but it is a lie from the devil. Do not be deceived. God loves gays and wants them to know the truth." - That's what she tweeted in May 2012 about gays.
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Postby MALACHITE » Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:38 am

I believe that homosexuality is not a choice.
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Chupando's Angels wrote:Kuya, may nagsabi sakin, 2 lang daw ang nilalang ng Diyos, babae at lalake lang, si Adan at si Eba lang.
Kaya yung mga bading daw at tomboy sa impyerno pupunta, totoo po ba toh :-O :-O :-O :%((


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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby natureboy » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:16 pm

HOMOSEXUALITY is not a sin, but HOMOSEXUAL ACTS are. if you identify your self as a homosexual, that means, God called you to be pure, to not engage in any sexual acts, to be chaste.
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby Hunk_Superman » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:18 pm

Mariana Erwin wrote:
Hunk_Superman wrote:
Chupando's Angels wrote:Kuya, may nagsabi sakin, 2 lang daw ang nilalang ng Diyos, babae at lalake lang, si Adan at si Eba lang.
Kaya yung mga bading daw at tomboy sa impyerno pupunta, totoo po ba toh :-O :-O :-O :%((


Me sinabi si Mirriam Quiambao dati..... @-)
Di ko lang ma recall.... 8-} 8-} 8-}


I'm not homophobic and she said this (this is the only comment from her that I disagree)....

"Homosexuality is not a sin but it is a lie from the devil. Do not be deceived. God loves gays and wants them to know the truth." - That's what she tweeted in May 2012 about gays.


:-O :-O :-O

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Postby Jimbo Redux » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:35 pm

First of all...people should realize that the battle of same sex marriage is about CIVIL MARRIAGE....not CHURCH MARRIAGE.

Religion has nothing to do with CIVIL MARRIAGE.

The battle is with the Supreme Court...and not with the church.

Same sex advocates should attack man's laws..not spiritual laws.

Its a non issue...gays and lesbians are generally contented with CIVIL MARRIAGE.

As for gay Christians....there are so many Christians...Old Christians, New Christians, Struggling Christians, Backsliding Christians, Not perfect Christians. Lukewarm Christians etc...that does not make people less of a Christian...because we are valuable to God and no one is perfect.
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Postby Hunk_Superman » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:37 pm

Jimbo Redux wrote:First of all...people should realize that the battle of same sex marriage is about CIVIL MARRIAGE....not CHURCH MARRIAGE.

Religion has nothing to do with CIVIL MARRIAGE.

The battle is with the Supreme Court...and not with the church.

Same sex advocates should attack man's laws..not spiritual laws.

Its a non issue...gays and lesbians are generally contented with CIVIL MARRIAGE.

As for gay Christians....there are so many Christians...Old Christians, New Christians, Struggling Christians, Backsliding Christians, Not perfect Christians. Lukewarm Christians etc...that does not make people less of a Christian...because we are valuable to God and no one is perfect.


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Postby Jimbo Redux » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:42 pm

Hunk_Superman wrote:
Jimbo Redux wrote:First of all...people should realize that the battle of same sex marriage is about CIVIL MARRIAGE....not CHURCH MARRIAGE.

Religion has nothing to do with CIVIL MARRIAGE.

The battle is with the Supreme Court...and not with the church.

Same sex advocates should attack man's laws..not spiritual laws.

Its a non issue...gays and lesbians are generally contented with CIVIL MARRIAGE.

As for gay Christians....there are so many Christians...Old Christians, New Christians, Struggling Christians, Backsliding Christians, Not perfect Christians. Lukewarm Christians etc...that does not make people less of a Christian...because we are valuable to God and no one is perfect.


Pareng Koks...baket parang nagbalik Newbie ka..? :-O :-O



Hindi ah...talagang Newbie tong Jimbo Redux account.

Yung "Jimbo" account ..Professional paren...yung Kokak Jolie Middleton account, Pioneer paren.
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby Hunk_Superman » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:44 pm

Jimbo Redux wrote:
Hunk_Superman wrote:
Jimbo Redux wrote:First of all...people should realize that the battle of same sex marriage is about CIVIL MARRIAGE....not CHURCH MARRIAGE.

Religion has nothing to do with CIVIL MARRIAGE.

The battle is with the Supreme Court...and not with the church.

Same sex advocates should attack man's laws..not spiritual laws.

Its a non issue...gays and lesbians are generally contented with CIVIL MARRIAGE.

As for gay Christians....there are so many Christians...Old Christians, New Christians, Struggling Christians, Backsliding Christians, Not perfect Christians. Lukewarm Christians etc...that does not make people less of a Christian...because we are valuable to God and no one is perfect.


Pareng Koks...baket parang nagbalik Newbie ka..? :-O :-O



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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby MALACHITE » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:17 pm

goddessoxana27 wrote:Ang dami naman malinis ditey!! wag na lang kaya kayo magpost! mga impokrita!!

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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby masanopat » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:31 pm

Syempre, wag din nating kalimutan ang love story ni David and Jonathan sa old testament. If I remember the context of that bible story correctly, mukha naman yatang naging pleasing sa eyes ni God ang parehong si David and Jonathan. Anyway, I also believe na kailanman ang pagmamahal na tunay at totoo ay hindi kasalanan. Kung ikaw ay isang homosexual na lalake na hindi naman talaga attracted sa babae, hindi ba mas kasalan kung pakakasalan mo ang isang babaeng hindi mo naman kayang bigyan ng lubos at tunay na pagmamahal? Ang pangloloko at pagkukunwari for sure yan ang tunay na pagkakasala... what do you think guys?
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby natureboy » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:49 pm

masanopat wrote:Syempre, wag din nating kalimutan ang love story ni David and Jonathan sa old testament. If I remember the context of that bible story correctly, mukha naman yatang naging pleasing sa eyes ni God ang parehong si David and Jonathan. Anyway, I also believe na kailanman ang pagmamahal na tunay at totoo ay hindi kasalanan. Kung ikaw ay isang homosexual na lalake na hindi naman talaga attracted sa babae, hindi mas kasalan kung pakakasalan mo ang isang babaeng hindi mo naman kayang bigyan ng lubos at tunay na pagmamahal? Ang pangloloko at pagkukunwari for sure yan ang tunay na pagkakasala... what do you think guys?


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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby markfrancismahusay » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:44 pm

okdokidok wrote:
Chupando's Angels wrote:Kuya, may nagsabi sakin, 2 lang daw ang nilalang ng Diyos, babae at lalake lang, si Adan at si Eba lang.
Kaya yung mga bading daw at tomboy sa impyerno pupunta, totoo po ba toh :-O :-O :-O :%((


totoo yan ineng...kaya kelangan magpakalalake na kayo...
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teh baka nakakalimutan mo mga bakla ang naghahandle sa mga girls na pambato natin sa mga international beauty pageants. kung hindi dahil sa kanila hindi magiging isa sa mga powerhouse of beauty sa mundo ang Pilipinas. Isipin mo na lang kung nagpakalalake ang mga bading na yun, tingin mo ba may gagabay sa mga girls natin. Sa palagay ko kahit babae mahihirapan sa trabaho ng mga bakla sa beauty pageant. Kaya wag nyo pong minamaliit ang mga bakla, may nagagawa din silang kabutihan sa mundo. Hindi lahat ng bakla ay masama. Kaya dahan dahan ka sa pagsasalita mo. Lahat ng tao nagkakasala babae ka man, lalaki, bakla, tomboy o anu pa mang kasarian, kahit madre o pari nagkakasala din eh. kaya hindi mo dapat sini-single out ang mga LGBT sa pagkakaroon ng kasalanan dahil hindi mo alam yang panghuhusga mo sa kapwa mo, kasalanan din yan sa Diyos. Wag kang umakto na perpekto ka. OK!!! =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby goddessoxana27 » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:49 pm

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goddessoxana27 wrote:Ang dami naman malinis ditey!! wag na lang kaya kayo magpost! mga impokrita!!

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The most important here is that you should know your LIMITATIONS and MUST
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What is the use of reading or watching any Moral activites if you... yourself did not practice it.

kaya nga ang daming impokrita sa mundo!
buti na lang GODDESS ako!!!

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Hayaan mo na goddess.

We all need acceptance and I believe that we are no different from straight people.
Pareho lang tayong makasalanan lahat!


korek!!!

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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby Stage Diva » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:58 pm

masanopat wrote:Syempre, wag din nating kalimutan ang love story ni David and Jonathan sa old testament. If I remember the context of that bible story correctly, mukha naman yatang naging pleasing sa eyes ni God ang parehong si David and Jonathan. Anyway, I also believe na kailanman ang pagmamahal na tunay at totoo ay hindi kasalanan. Kung ikaw ay isang homosexual na lalake na hindi naman talaga attracted sa babae, hindi ba mas kasalan kung pakakasalan mo ang isang babaeng hindi mo naman kayang bigyan ng lubos at tunay na pagmamahal? Ang pangloloko at pagkukunwari for sure yan ang tunay na pagkakasala... what do you think guys?


I agree with this although madami tlagang beks ang napipilitan magpa kasal kc nga yung community at yung family pressure na kailangan mag asawa.. Sad but true ganyan tlaga dito satin..
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby Stage Diva » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:01 pm

markfrancismahusay wrote:
okdokidok wrote:
Chupando's Angels wrote:Kuya, may nagsabi sakin, 2 lang daw ang nilalang ng Diyos, babae at lalake lang, si Adan at si Eba lang.
Kaya yung mga bading daw at tomboy sa impyerno pupunta, totoo po ba toh :-O :-O :-O :%((


totoo yan ineng...kaya kelangan magpakalalake na kayo...
tigilan na ninyo ang mga kababuyang ginagawa ninyo...
masama yan...labag yan sa utos ng Dyos...


[-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O<
[-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O<
[-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O<


teh baka nakakalimutan mo mga bakla ang naghahandle sa mga girls na pambato natin sa mga international beauty pageants. kung hindi dahil sa kanila hindi magiging isa sa mga powerhouse of beauty sa mundo ang Pilipinas. Isipin mo na lang kung nagpakalalake ang mga bading na yun, tingin mo ba may gagabay sa mga girls natin. Sa palagay ko kahit babae mahihirapan sa trabaho ng mga bakla sa beauty pageant. Kaya wag nyo pong minamaliit ang mga bakla, may nagagawa din silang kabutihan sa mundo. Hindi lahat ng bakla ay masama. Kaya dahan dahan ka sa pagsasalita mo. Lahat ng tao nagkakasala babae ka man, lalaki, bakla, tomboy o anu pa mang kasarian, kahit madre o pari nagkakasala din eh. kaya hindi mo dapat sini-single out ang mga LGBT sa pagkakaroon ng kasalanan dahil hindi mo alam yang panghuhusga mo sa kapwa mo, kasalanan din yan sa Diyos. Wag kang umakto na perpekto ka. OK!!! =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/


Baka naman kasi in-denial pa si ateng na berde din ang dugo nya.... Di pa nya tangap nag naglalaway din sya pag naka kita siyang gwapong lalake... kaya nga nandito sa Misso .. =;)) =;)) =;)) =;))
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby Bulbulito Bayagbag Ahhh » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:03 pm

okdokidok wrote:
Chupando's Angels wrote:Kuya, may nagsabi sakin, 2 lang daw ang nilalang ng Diyos, babae at lalake lang, si Adan at si Eba lang.
Kaya yung mga bading daw at tomboy sa impyerno pupunta, totoo po ba toh :-O :-O :-O :%((


totoo yan ineng...kaya kelangan magpakalalake na kayo...
tigilan na ninyo ang mga kababuyang ginagawa ninyo...
masama yan...labag yan sa utos ng Dyos...


[-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O<
[-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O<
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Parang sinabi mo na ring mga baboy ang mga bading... X( X( X(
Tingin ko mas baboy yung di marunong umunawa at rumespeto sa kapwa nya 8-> 8-> 8->

Tsaka mas marami akong kakilalang bading na matitino at mapagmahal sa pamilya nila =D> =D> =D>

Di lahat pero may mga straight guys akong alam na nambubugbog ng asawa nila, walang mga
trabaho, adik, sugarol at lasenggero pah, pati mga anak nagkalat sa kalye dahil inabandona,
debahhh Mr. SAINT okdokidok,,,, yan ang mas baboy X( =/ >:<
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby MALACHITE » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:05 pm

Stage Diva wrote:
masanopat wrote:Syempre, wag din nating kalimutan ang love story ni David and Jonathan sa old testament. If I remember the context of that bible story correctly, mukha naman yatang naging pleasing sa eyes ni God ang parehong si David and Jonathan. Anyway, I also believe na kailanman ang pagmamahal na tunay at totoo ay hindi kasalanan. Kung ikaw ay isang homosexual na lalake na hindi naman talaga attracted sa babae, hindi ba mas kasalan kung pakakasalan mo ang isang babaeng hindi mo naman kayang bigyan ng lubos at tunay na pagmamahal? Ang pangloloko at pagkukunwari for sure yan ang tunay na pagkakasala... what do you think guys?


I agree with this although madami tlagang beks ang napipilitan magpa kasal kc nga yung community at yung family pressure na kailangan mag asawa.. Sad but true ganyan tlaga dito satin..


meron ding case na accepted sya family pero di naman accepted sa work so napilitan din magpakasal. kanyang kanya dahilan yan. ang mahalaga di sila pabigat sa pamilya at lipunan.
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby *** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:45 pm

All I can say is trust in God's mercy... Only God knows what's in your heart and ur truest intentions.... Sbi nga ang iba they got caught up sa kahon ng kanilang mga batas at rigid rules at nforget na nila that these laws/guides were created to bring men closer to God but if it is doing the opposite then it is obsolete and useless... Kya nga c Jesus nkikifriend friend sa prosti, magnanakaw etc. Don't judge others just because they sin differently sa iyo dba, lahat sinners iba iba nga lang klase kya don't judge and only God has d say who goes to heaven or hell. We were given laws as guides but were also given hearts and free will... God is a God of mercy & love before he is a God of justice. We were given laws aralin sa guidance ng church at Holy Spirit at malalaman mo deep in your very heartstrings kung tama o mali then u choose and talk to God... But there are circumstances and things that u cannot change no matter what dahil nrin sa effect ng original sin sa atin...so just try d best u can to live d best u can and as pleasing to God as u can... No one can judge u because no one has walked in ur shoes.... Just talk to God sabihin bigay mo sa kanya lahat ng concerns at hinaing mo as u wld sa bestfriend mo.. Develop a relationship with God and just trust in God's mercy.....
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby vondat » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:02 pm

Tanong lang po. Pwede bang maging Kristiyano ang isang bakla kung taliwas siya sa paniniwala sa bibliya? Kung sasabihing ok lang basta hindi siya gagawa ng kasalanan, meaning hindi siya makikipagniig sa kapwa lalake, bakla pa ba syang maituturing?
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Re: Homosexuality in the Bible

Postby natureboy » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:04 pm

vondat wrote:Tanong lang po. Pwede bang maging Kristiyano ang isang bakla kung taliwas siya sa paniniwala sa bibliya? Kung sasabihing ok lang basta hindi siya gagawa ng kasalanan, meaning hindi siya makikipagniig sa kapwa lalake, bakla pa ba syang maituturing?


From how i understand it, of course kristyano ka parin, eh ikaw yun eh, homosexual ka, ang kasalanan lang is yung pakikipagtalik / pakikipagrelasyon sa kapawa lalaki/babae, and mas matuturing kang totoong kristyano tlga kung kahit homosexual ka, hindi ka nagpapadala sa mga urges, sa mga earthly/body desires. kung homosexual ka, homosexual ka, hindi ako agree na choice sya or "lie from the devil".
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