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Will UN forced MWO to re-accept unwed & single mothers?

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:46 am

    



Now the case of dethroned Miss Ukraine is headed to United Nations. Will her campaign be enough for UN to force Miss World Organization to re-accept unwed & single mothers at the Miss World pageant after 46 years?


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Postby GabrielTheHunk » Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:50 am

She could only complain on moral grounds: whether the eligibility rules are right or wrong.

But her complaint has NO legal standing. She clearly lied on her application when she openly defied the established and written eligibility criteria. She’ll get nowhere personally. But who knows, her complaint might pressure psgeants to change their criteria, then she would have impacted the world in a major way...
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:58 am

Miss Universe ruling about unwed & single mothers:
CAN I BE MARRIED?
No, contestants may not be married or pregnant. They must not have ever been married, not had a marriage annulled nor given birth to, or parented a child. The titleholders are also required to remain unmarried throughout their reign.


Miss Earth requirements:
QUALIFICATIONS OF A NATIONAL DELEGATE:

• Natural born Female
• Never been married, single, never given birth
• 18-28 years of age (until December 31, 2019)
• Minimum height of 5 feet 5 inches (165.10 cm)
• Posses beauty of face and proportionate body structure
• Outgoing and friendly
• Excellent physical condition
• Has knowledge of her country's culture and environment
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Postby quelab22 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:00 am

people should accept that there is always a separate pageant to everyone. Rules are rules...
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:43 am


No brainer 'ata ito? The UN has no police power to enforce. Not even the ICC can do that. I don't think that was even a negotiated issue or has gone through arbitration channels to arrogate a legal persona.
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:49 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
No brainer 'ata ito? The UN has no police power to enforce. Not even the ICC can do that. I don't think that was even a negotiated issue or has gone through arbitration channels to arrogate a legal persona.


But why Veronika's case ended up in UN? What is her purpose to UN, just to force her "ineligibility" correct?
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Postby lesham » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:50 am

quelab22 wrote:people should accept that there is always a separate pageant to everyone. Rules are rules...


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If MUO can bend their old rules to allow transsexuals, why not include biological women who are single mothers? MUO is being misogynist here. Very offensive :%)) :%)) =;)) =;))

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Postby beautywatchnyc » Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:06 am

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beautywatchnyc wrote:
No brainer 'ata ito? The UN has no police power to enforce. Not even the ICC can do that. I don't think that was even a negotiated issue or has gone through arbitration channels to arrogate a legal persona.


But why Veronika's case ended up in UN? What is her purpose to UN, just to force her "ineligibility" correct?


"Can the UN force"? Anyone can push a communique to the UN as a body, or to the ICC. But the trail ends there. Period.
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Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:42 am

I would like to see transwomen to compete in Miss World rather than single mothers.

Sorry but Miss World should be for Single and not mothers.
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Re: Can UN forced MWO to re-accept unwed & single mothers?

Postby quelab22 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:00 pm

lesham wrote:
quelab22 wrote:people should accept that there is always a separate pageant to everyone. Rules are rules...


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If MUO can bend their old rules to allow transsexuals, why not include biological women who are single mothers? MUO is being misogynist here. Very offensive :%)) :%)) =;)) =;))

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as what i have said Rules are rules, if the local organization approved it who are we to question it.
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Postby DOPE » Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:34 pm

lesham wrote:
quelab22 wrote:people should accept that there is always a separate pageant to everyone. Rules are rules...


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If MUO can bend their old rules to allow transsexuals, why not include biological women who are single mothers? MUO is being misogynist here. Very offensive :%)) :%)) =;)) =;))

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Allowing Transgenders to compete was one of the biggest downfall of MUO.

Now what if... a sudden Miss fill in the blank gets preggo and does an abortion. I wonder if theres loopholes in this situation.
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Postby misssimplicity » Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:21 am

UN HAS NO JURISDICTION ON THAT. PRIVATE ENTITIES HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE HOUSE RULES
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Postby blazingskyx27 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:37 am


I have nothing against single mothers. I believe being a mother is one of the toughest role any woman has ever faced in her life time, it takes inner strength to get the responsibilities done especially to their children. But joining a beauty pageant could put a strain to both her role as a mom and as a spokesperson. She will go thru the media week, making the rounds of talk shows, press junkets, plus product endorsements, fashion shows and charity works. She is required to travel from one country to the next. She will stay in an apartment in New York with the current Miss USA, in the case of Miss Universe. I think there is going to be a conflict of interest there somewhere. In my opinion, she should be taking care and spending more time with her kid/s rather than going thru the fast paced lifestyle of a beauty queen. If she needs employment, why not work somewhere closer to her home and children? She cannot afford to be absent from her kid's daily life, right?









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Re: Will UN forced MWO to re-accept unwed & single mothers?

Postby kantutay » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:21 pm

What’s next, morbidly obese women? Midgets? Senior citizens? All in the name of inclusivity, diversity and political correctness? UN can’t do squat. It is a relic and outdated institution that needs to be abolished.
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:47 pm

kantutay wrote:What’s next, morbidly obese women? Midgets? Senior citizens? All in the name of inclusivity, diversity and political correctness? UN can’t do squat. It is a relic and outdated institution that needs to be abolished.


plus size women like Canada at MU2016
midget like Guam at MU1982
senior citizens maybe sooner or later if they will increase the age limit
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Postby The Duchess » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:23 am

I think some of you forget what the title of "Miss" means
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Postby the critic » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:08 am

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kantutay wrote:What’s next, morbidly obese women? Midgets? Senior citizens? All in the name of inclusivity, diversity and political correctness? UN can’t do squat. It is a relic and outdated institution that needs to be abolished.


plus size women like Canada at MU2016
midget like Guam at MU1982
senior citizens maybe sooner or later if they will increase the age limit


WHAT WE CALL PLUS SIZED WOMEN AND SHORT WOMEN NOW HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COMPETING IN PAGEANTS LIKE MISS WORLD AND MISS UNIVERSE SINCE THE START. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OTHERS AND Miss Universe CANADA 2016 IS THAT THEY WERE ALWAYS OVERLOOKED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FIT THE MOLD OF THE ERA THEY COMPETED IN AS TRENDS IN BEAUTY CHANGED. LOOKING BACK IN MAJOR PAGEANTS OF THE 50S YOU'LL SEE PLENTY BODIES LIKE SIERA BEARCHELL'S AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL SINCE LIKE MISS UNIVERSE CAYMAN 2017 AND MISS WORLD SOUTH AFRICA 2019.
THE SHORTEST MISS WORLD CAROLE JOAN CRAWFORD WAS 1/4 OF AN INCH SHORTER THAN Miss Universe GUAM 1982 AND THATS THE HEIGHT OF MOST WOMEN ANYWAY...NOT A MIDGET.
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A MORBIDLY OBESE WOMAN COULD COMPETE IN THEORY SIGN UP TO COMPETE IF SHE WANTS BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A RULE BLOCKING HER BUT CHANCES ARE THE JUDGES WOULD ELIMINATE HER IN THE EARLIEST STAGE BECAUSE HER LOOK DOESN'T REPRESENT THEIR TYPE OF BEAUTY.

THE DEBATE IS NOT ABOUT BODY IMAGE ITS ABOUT THE COMPLEXITY OF ALLOWING MOTHERS AND DIVORCEES TO COMPETE. ITS NOT JUST ABOUT A WOMEN'S ROLES IN SOCIETY BECAUSE SHE COULD PASS OFF HER CHILD TO HIS OR HER FATHER OR GRANDPARENTS FOR A YEAR BUT ITS HAS A LOT TO DO WITH 'IMAGE' AND HOW COMPLEX THE ISSUE IS ESPECIALLY SINCE THESE PAGEANTS ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT WOMEN ALL OVER THE GLOBE AND NOT JUST CERTAIN COUNTRIES THAT MIGHT NOT FIND AN ISSUE WITH IT. ITS SIMILAR TO HOW VIRGINITY AND CHASTITY IS SEEN AS IDEAL CHARACTERISTICS FOR WOMEN IN MOST CULTURES AND HIS PAIRED WITH BEAUTY BUT THATS A WHOLE OTHER DEBATE. IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH THE "GOOD GIRL" IMAGE THAT WOMEN ARE TOLD TO STRIVE TOWARDS AND UPHOLD.
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