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Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Nand » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:45 pm

    

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This is a thread or list of Unplaced Delegates with Filipino Heritage (Other than Philippines) in Miss Earth. This debunks the myth that if you have a Filipino lineage you are guaranteed a spot in the finals.

1. Riza Raquel Santos- Miss Earth Canada 2006 ( unplaced), Miss World 2011(Top 30), Miss Universe 2013 (unplaced)

2. Alejandra Mendoza- Miss Earth Honduras 2009 (Unplaced)

3. Maria Luisa Santos- Miss Earth Guam 2009 (Unplaced)

4. Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014 (Unplaced)

5. Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015 (Unplaced)

6. Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015 (Unplaced)

7. Jacqualine Marsh- Miss Earth Canada 2017 (Unplaced)

8. Monique Shippen- Miss Earth Australia 2018 (unplaced)







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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Nand » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:45 pm

Do you know anyone with Filipino Heritage but failed to place in Miss Earth? Feel free to name them...
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Handsama » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:52 pm

These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby jesnude » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:08 am

Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby bbmack1521444 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:24 am

tama... for sure this year ms. austria will place becoz she has a filipino blood or worse will win the crown. mess earth is always biased in favoring ms.philippines and overshadow other beautiful ladys from other countries.. if they will let another filipina win this year its the end of the road for this pageant.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Handsama » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:37 am

jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


If we’re talking about women with Filipino heritage from other countries who won the pageant, there was only one and that was Canada in 2007. The next closest was Australia last year who ended up as a runner up. That’s pretty much it in Miss Earth’s 17 year history.

So you don’t think your fellow Filipinos are capable of being objective as judges? I thought these judges come from distinguished backgrounds. Aren’t they respected members of society? I mean we’re talking about entertainers, media personalities, entrepreneurs, politicians, etc.

You guys are starting to scare me. :%)) First, we’re told that they’re a bunch of racists. Now we’re being told they’re biased and are incapable of fair judging. If that’s the case, then there’s something seriously wrong with the Filipino psyche. Which means I may have to scratch the Philippines from my list of future travel destinations. :%)) After all...why bother dealing with a bunch of racists and cheats. :)(
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby pwa » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:59 am

Delegates with Filipino Heritage made to the cut including Miss Canada 2007, Miss Sweden 2016, Miss Australia 2017. Not sure if other delegates with Filipino heritage in this list. None of them deserved the semi spot. There are high possibilities that you can make the cut if you have Filipino Heritage based on the data. But I think MEO realized the issue and no delegates with Filipino heritage take the advantage.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby pwa » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:03 am

Last year I think MEO was smart. The organization knew the final two have Filippino heritage. So they changed the format and announced Miss Australia with Philippino heritage first. Otherwise, fans will bash MEO harder. Give thumb to MEO for the smart change.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Second Rate Citizens » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:05 am

jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


... ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


I'm cool with that, but keep in mind that at least 75-95% of judges at Miss Universe are always American and it's the same for Miss International. For Miss World it doesn't matter since no actual judging takes place there. :%))
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby ccccc » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:55 am

Nand wrote:Image


This is a thread or list of Unplaced Delegates with Filipino Heritage (Other than Philippines) in Miss Earth. This debunks the myth that if you have a Filipino lineage you are guaranteed a spot in the finals.

1. Riza Raquel Santos. Represented Canada in Miss Earth 2006( unplaced), Miss World 2011(Top 30), Miss Universe 2013 (unplaced)

2. Alejandra Mendoza Represented Honduras in Miss Earth 2009 (Unplaced)

3. Maria Luisa Santos Represented Guam in Miss Earth 2009 (Unplaced)

4 . Jacqualine Marsh . Represented Canada in Miss Earth 2017 (Unplaced)






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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Ivy Aguas » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:51 am

Hindi ko alam kung bakit ang Miss Earth ang sinisisi nila kaya nakakapasok ang mga may kalahating pilipino sa semifinals!

Sisihin niyo yung mga franchise holders na mahilig mag korona ng mga kalating pilipino!
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby jesnude » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:10 am

Handsama wrote:
jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


If we’re talking about women with Filipino heritage from other countries who won the pageant, there was only one and that was Canada in 2007. The next closest was Australia last year who ended up as a runner up. That’s pretty much it in Miss Earth’s 17 year history.

So you don’t think your fellow Filipinos are capable of being objective as judges? I thought these judges come from distinguished backgrounds. Aren’t they respected members of society? I mean we’re talking about entertainers, media personalities, entrepreneurs, politicians, etc.

You guys are starting to scare me. :%)) First, we’re told that they’re a bunch of racists. Now we’re being told they’re biased and are incapable of fair judging. If that’s the case, then there’s something seriously wrong with the Filipino psyche. Which means I may have to scratch the Philippines from my list of future travel destinations. :%)) After all...why bother dealing with a bunch of racists and cheats. :)(


@HANDSAMA, MISS EARTH IS A FILIPINO OWNED PAGEANT. THERE ARE LOTS OF FILIPINO WHO ARE NOT BIAS BUT THE FACT IS IT IS OUR PAGEANT, YOU CANNOT UNDERMINED THAT THERE WERE BIASES ESPECIALLY IN THE EYES OF THE FOREIGNERS.

TO REMOVED BIASES, MY ADVISED TO CAROUSEL IS TO REMOVED FILIPINO JUDGES ESPECIALLY IN THE FINAL NIGHT.

WE HAVE 4 MISS EARTH IN A SPAN OF 17 YEARS PLUS A LOTS OF RUNNER UPS.

WE ARE PROUDER IF WE WON IN ANOTHER PAGEANT, MAJOR OR MINOR. WE ARE ALSO HAPPY IF THE WINNER OF THE CERTAIN PAGEANT HAS A FILIPINO HERITAGE.

IF A FILIPINA WON MISS EARTH, IT'S JUST "OKEY" BUT IT'S SWEETER IF IT IS IN THE OTHER PAGEANT.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby quelab22 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:15 am

even though all scores will be erased.... final judging should still consider the following not just the q&a....
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby zoondwaine » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:30 am

jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:
jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


If we’re talking about women with Filipino heritage from other countries who won the pageant, there was only one and that was Canada in 2007. The next closest was Australia last year who ended up as a runner up. That’s pretty much it in Miss Earth’s 17 year history.

So you don’t think your fellow Filipinos are capable of being objective as judges? I thought these judges come from distinguished backgrounds. Aren’t they respected members of society? I mean we’re talking about entertainers, media personalities, entrepreneurs, politicians, etc.

You guys are starting to scare me. :%)) First, we’re told that they’re a bunch of racists. Now we’re being told they’re biased and are incapable of fair judging. If that’s the case, then there’s something seriously wrong with the Filipino psyche. Which means I may have to scratch the Philippines from my list of future travel destinations. :%)) After all...why bother dealing with a bunch of racists and cheats. :)(


@HANDSAMA, MISS EARTH IS A FILIPINO OWNED PAGEANT. THERE ARE LOTS OF FILIPINO WHO ARE NOT BIAS BUT THE FACT IS IT IS OUR PAGEANT, YOU CANNOT UNDERMINED THAT THERE WERE BIASES ESPECIALLY IN THE EYES OF THE FOREIGNERS.

TO REMOVED BIASES, MY ADVISED TO CAROUSEL IS TO REMOVED FILIPINO JUDGES ESPECIALLY IN THE FINAL NIGHT.

WE HAVE 4 MISS EARTH IN A SPAN OF 17 YEARS PLUS A LOTS OF RUNNER UPS.

WE ARE PROUDER IF WE WON IN ANOTHER PAGEANT, MAJOR OR MINOR. WE ARE ALSO HAPPY IF THE WINNER OF THE CERTAIN PAGEANT HAS A FILIPINO HERITAGE.

IF A FILIPINA WON MISS EARTH, IT'S JUST "OKEY" BUT IT'S SWEETER IF IT IS IN THE OTHER PAGEANT.



Only one Filipino judge during Miss Earth 2015 but still Philippines won.

It always boils down to performance and intelligence. Miss Earth is looking for a woman with substance, who could walk the talk and can talk to anyone intelligently. Its not Miss Philippines fault if they are more prepared compare to other candidates.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby manoypoe » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:45 am

zoondwaine wrote:
jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:
jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


If we’re talking about women with Filipino heritage from other countries who won the pageant, there was only one and that was Canada in 2007. The next closest was Australia last year who ended up as a runner up. That’s pretty much it in Miss Earth’s 17 year history.

So you don’t think your fellow Filipinos are capable of being objective as judges? I thought these judges come from distinguished backgrounds. Aren’t they respected members of society? I mean we’re talking about entertainers, media personalities, entrepreneurs, politicians, etc.

You guys are starting to scare me. :%)) First, we’re told that they’re a bunch of racists. Now we’re being told they’re biased and are incapable of fair judging. If that’s the case, then there’s something seriously wrong with the Filipino psyche. Which means I may have to scratch the Philippines from my list of future travel destinations. :%)) After all...why bother dealing with a bunch of racists and cheats. :)(


@HANDSAMA, MISS EARTH IS A FILIPINO OWNED PAGEANT. THERE ARE LOTS OF FILIPINO WHO ARE NOT BIAS BUT THE FACT IS IT IS OUR PAGEANT, YOU CANNOT UNDERMINED THAT THERE WERE BIASES ESPECIALLY IN THE EYES OF THE FOREIGNERS.

TO REMOVED BIASES, MY ADVISED TO CAROUSEL IS TO REMOVED FILIPINO JUDGES ESPECIALLY IN THE FINAL NIGHT.

WE HAVE 4 MISS EARTH IN A SPAN OF 17 YEARS PLUS A LOTS OF RUNNER UPS.

WE ARE PROUDER IF WE WON IN ANOTHER PAGEANT, MAJOR OR MINOR. WE ARE ALSO HAPPY IF THE WINNER OF THE CERTAIN PAGEANT HAS A FILIPINO HERITAGE.

IF A FILIPINA WON MISS EARTH, IT'S JUST "OKEY" BUT IT'S SWEETER IF IT IS IN THE OTHER PAGEANT.



Only one Filipino judge during Miss Earth 2015 but still Philippines won.

It always boils down to performance and intelligence. Miss Earth is looking for a woman with substance, who could walk the talk and can talk to anyone intelligently. Its not Miss Philippines fault if they are more prepared compare to other candidates.


AND IT IS EVEN MORE DANGEROUS TO HAVE MORE FOREIGN JUDGES AS SHOWN IN VIENNA AND EVEN IN 2017, YOU SAW HOW THE FOREIGN JUDGES APPLAUDED THE ANSWER OF KAREN.

WILL CAROUSEL SHOW US HOW THE JUDGES VOTED TO ERASE THE DOUBTS?
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby justpassingby » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:27 am

I actually did a bit of research. Apart from Trisko, Robertson and Syquia-Skarne, there is one more successful mixed/overseas Filipina delegate in ME's history: ME Greece 2002 Juliana Drossou who was crowned Miss Fire in the finale and then elevated to Miss Water when ME 2002 Dzejla Glavovich was dethroned and the elemental court shifted

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To conclude, not all mixed/overseas Filipina delegates place but when they do, the seeming trend for them is to place high. Of course, there may be a lot of favorable circumstances that lead to their placements but that's probably for another post in another time.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby hjackson » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:13 am

bbmack1521444 wrote:tama... for sure this year ms. austria will place becoz she has a filipino blood or worse will win the crown. mess earth is always biased in favoring ms.philippines and overshadow other beautiful ladys from other countries.. if they will let another filipina win this year its the end of the road for this pageant.


THAT GIRL IS SO THICK TO BE MISS AUSTRIA WHEREIN SHE ALREADY KNOWS IN HER HEART THAT SHE ALREADY WORKED IN THE ORGANISATION !!!! >:< >:< >:< >:< >:<
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby prowazekii » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:26 pm

pwede until 25% pilipino parang c clarkson hahaha... wag nanan yun ga tamud n lang %
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Stoichio » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:56 pm

Handsama wrote:
jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


If we’re talking about women with Filipino heritage from other countries who won the pageant, there was only one and that was Canada in 2007. The next closest was Australia last year who ended up as a runner up. That’s pretty much it in Miss Earth’s 17 year history.

So you don’t think your fellow Filipinos are capable of being objective as judges? I thought these judges come from distinguished backgrounds. Aren’t they respected members of society? I mean we’re talking about entertainers, media personalities, entrepreneurs, politicians, etc.

You guys are starting to scare me. :%)) First, we’re told that they’re a bunch of racists. Now we’re being told they’re biased and are incapable of fair judging. If that’s the case, then there’s something seriously wrong with the Filipino psyche. Which means I may have to scratch the Philippines from my list of future travel destinations. :%)) After all...why bother dealing with a bunch of racists and cheats. :)(



I am surprised that you forgot Sweden 2016 whose parents are both Filipinos. =;)) =;))
Based on my memory, in the early years of the pageant
Greece: 2002 (Miss Water) is half-Filipino
Australia 2004: Genebelle Dawn Dickson (if I remember her name right)
2007 winner from Canada

And I would like to mention that the first ever winner from Denmark, her ND that time was a Filipino aka Cheryl Nielsen.
I am not taking anything away from Catharina Svensson but if her ND that time was nit Pinoy, I wonder of she made it into the Top 10.

Bottomline is, ME preliminary judges love to play the FILIPINO CARD! :)>-


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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby manoypoe » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:22 pm

LET US ASSUME, FILIPINO CARD, TRUMP CARD, JULIA'S CARD, WHAT ELSE IS NEW? =;)) =;))

THE THING IS - FILIPINOS ARE PERFORMING SO WELL IN OTHER PAGEANTS ASIDE FROM JULIA'S CARD. THEY PREPARE HARD, SO WHY TAKE AWAY THE SWEET FRUIT OF WHAT THEY HAVE WORKED HARD FOR?
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Geeyourhair » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:32 pm

Geezzz, why are some people so concern about half-Filipinos representing other countries in Miss Earth? What's wrong with it? I still want to hear an American (or even Filipinos) complaining about half-Americans representing other countries in Miss Universe. Philippines is even sending almost every year halfies (usually half-Americans) to Miss Universe and Miss World yer most Filipinos rejoice. WHy can't other countries do the same to Miss Earth?

Double standard to the maximum level.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Stoichio » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:39 pm

Geeyourhair wrote:Geezzz, why are some people so concern about Filipinos representing other countries in Miss Earth? What's wrong with it? I still want to hear an American (or even Filipinos) complaining about half-Americans representing other countries in Miss Universe. Philippines is even sending almost every year halfies (usually half-Americans) to Miss Universe and Miss World yer most Filipinos rejoice. WHy can't other countries do the same to Miss Earth?

Double standard to the maximum level.



You didn’t get the point girl hahaha!


The point is the frequency of placement of girls with Filipino blood. And the obvious way the org is giving them some plus points behind the cameras :)>- :)>- What makes it wrong is the fact that it’s SOOOOOOO OBVIOUS :D/



I just hope that it is really the judges scores though because it would be VERY DISTURBING if the Lorraine Schuck and her cohorts actually manipulate the scores to give plus points to those girls with Pnoy heritage =;)) =;)) =;))



Someone is very defensive again =;)) =;)) =;)) =;))
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Geeyourhair » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:55 pm

Stoichio wrote:
Geeyourhair wrote:Geezzz, why are some people so concern about Filipinos representing other countries in Miss Earth? What's wrong with it? I still want to hear an American (or even Filipinos) complaining about half-Americans representing other countries in Miss Universe. Philippines is even sending almost every year halfies (usually half-Americans) to Miss Universe and Miss World yer most Filipinos rejoice. WHy can't other countries do the same to Miss Earth?

Double standard to the maximum level.



You didn’t get the point girl hahaha!


The point is the frequency of placement of girls with Filipino blood. And the obvious way the org is giving them some plus points behind the cameras :)>- :)>- What makes it wrong is the fact that it’s SOOOOOOO OBVIOUS :D/



I just hope that it is really the judges scores though because it would be VERY DISTURBING if the Lorraine Schuck and her cohorts actually manipulate the scores to give plus points to those girls with Pnoy heritage =;)) =;)) =;))



Someone is very defensive again =;)) =;)) =;)) =;))


It's you who did not get my point. My point is...there was no issue at all if there are half-Filipinos representing other countries--it does not warrant a semi-finalist position or crown just because they have a Filipino blood. If they manage to be in the semis they made it due to their performance not because of them being half-Filipinos or else every halfies would have been in the semi's. It's their performance and their attitudes that determine their fate in the final night not because they have Filipino bloods.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Handsama » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:14 am

Stoichio wrote:
Handsama wrote:
jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


If we’re talking about women with Filipino heritage from other countries who won the pageant, there was only one and that was Canada in 2007. The next closest was Australia last year who ended up as a runner up. That’s pretty much it in Miss Earth’s 17 year history.

So you don’t think your fellow Filipinos are capable of being objective as judges? I thought these judges come from distinguished backgrounds. Aren’t they respected members of society? I mean we’re talking about entertainers, media personalities, entrepreneurs, politicians, etc.

You guys are starting to scare me. :%)) First, we’re told that they’re a bunch of racists. Now we’re being told they’re biased and are incapable of fair judging. If that’s the case, then there’s something seriously wrong with the Filipino psyche. Which means I may have to scratch the Philippines from my list of future travel destinations. :%)) After all...why bother dealing with a bunch of racists and cheats. :)(



I am surprised that you forgot Sweden 2016 whose parents are both Filipinos. =;)) =;))
Based on my memory, in the early years of the pageant
Greece: 2002 (Miss Water) is half-Filipino
Australia 2004: Genebelle Dawn Dickson (if I remember her name right)
2007 winner from Canada

And I would like to mention that the first ever winner from Denmark, her ND that time was a Filipino aka Cheryl Nielsen.
I am not taking anything away from Catharina Svensson but if her ND that time was nit Pinoy, I wonder of she made it into the Top 10.

Bottomline is, ME preliminary judges love to play the FILIPINO CARD! :)>-




Nope! I didn’t forget about Cloie. Jesnude was asking about those who became eventual winners.

So following on your logic, only 5 women with Filipino heritage placed in the 17 year history of Miss Earth. That’s not a lot considering that you make it sound as if Miss Earth has become a haven for these women.

But I really don’t care about their heritage as long as I find them deserving. And Cloie and Nina deserved those spots contrary to what you haters say.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby HowDoYouKnow » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:24 am

quelab22 wrote:even though all scores will be erased.... final judging should still consider the following not just the q&a....


Then that defeats the purpose of erasing the scores to begin with.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Handsama » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:01 am

HowDoYouKnow wrote:
quelab22 wrote:even though all scores will be erased.... final judging should still consider the following not just the q&a....


Then that defeats the purpose of erasing the scores to begin with.


Contrary to what most people think, I have it on reliable source that the top 4 aren’t scored solely based on the Q&A alone. The scores from the other segments are also factored in. I just don’t know how much weight is given to the Q&A.
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby fermnedoza » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:29 am

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Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


And when did it happen that the Miss Earth preliminaries were judge by a 100% filipino panel?

Please stop making the Filipino judges incapable of fair discernment when it comes to judging a "beauty" pageant. Did you have issues on the results of Miss Earth 2001 -2009 editions? Were the winners of those year unacceptable to fans? Even Jessica's victory on 2007 was celebrated and welcomed then for her eloquent and powerful answer if memory serves me right. And those editions were judge by mostly Filipino judges!

I guess all the controversies started only on 2011 - 2017 and your wrong in blaming the results on the filipinos when they're number in the panel were in fact lesser than the number of foreign judges.

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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby jesnude » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:52 pm

fermnedoza wrote:
jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


And when did it happen that the Miss Earth preliminaries were judge by a 100% filipino panel?

Please stop making the Filipino judges incapable of fair discernment when it comes to judging a "beauty" pageant. Did you have issues on the results of Miss Earth 2001 -2009 editions? Were the winners of those year unacceptable to fans? Even Jessica's victory on 2007 was celebrated and welcomed then for her eloquent and powerful answer if memory serves me right. And those editions were judge by mostly Filipino judges!

I guess all the controversies started only on 2011 - 2017 and your wrong in blaming the results on the filipinos when they're number in the panel were in fact lesser than the number of foreign judges.



MISS EARTH IS A FILIPINO PAGEANT AND MOSTLY HELD IN THE PHILIPPINES, AND MOSTLY JUDGES ARE FILIPINOS EXCEPT THOSE EDITION WAS BEING HELD OUTSIDE THE PHILIPPINES.

PHILIPPINES ALWAYS IN THE SEMIS EXCEPT TO MISS HARN AND VIETNAM EDITION.
AND PHILIPPINES HAVE FOUR MISS EARTH AND A LOTS OF RUNNER UPS...
A BACK TO BACK AND ADDED TO THAT A SANDWICH VICTORY.

AS A FILIPINO DO I HAVE TO CELEBRATE????
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Re: Unplaced Delegates in Miss Earth W/ Filipino Heritage

Postby Geeyourhair » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:07 pm

jesnude wrote:
fermnedoza wrote:
jesnude wrote:
Handsama wrote:These are the ones that come to mind. I remember Pinoys talking about their Filipino heritage.

Katrina Kendall - Miss Earth England 2015
Britt Roselyn Rekkedal - Miss Earth Norway 2015
Beatrice Valente - Miss Earth Italy 2014


@HANDSAMA, IF WE INCLUDE THIS, 7 OF THEM OF FILIPINO HERITAGE DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE SEMI'S RIGHT?

HOW ABOUT A CANDIDATES WITH FILIPINO HERITAGE WHO MADE IT AND EVENTUAL WINNER?

I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH MISS EARTH ARE THE JUDGES, IN PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES 100% ARE FILIPINOS COMING FROM SPONSOR, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE FAVORING A FILIPINA.

THE DETERMINANT WHO'S GOING TO THE SEMI'S, HOPE MISS EARTH WILL HIRE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO AVOID BIASES.

ONE FILIPINO JUDGE IN FINAL NIGHT OR NONE TO VALIDATE AN ACCEPTABLE RESULTS.


And when did it happen that the Miss Earth preliminaries were judge by a 100% filipino panel?

Please stop making the Filipino judges incapable of fair discernment when it comes to judging a "beauty" pageant. Did you have issues on the results of Miss Earth 2001 -2009 editions? Were the winners of those year unacceptable to fans? Even Jessica's victory on 2007 was celebrated and welcomed then for her eloquent and powerful answer if memory serves me right. And those editions were judge by mostly Filipino judges!

I guess all the controversies started only on 2011 - 2017 and your wrong in blaming the results on the filipinos when they're number in the panel were in fact lesser than the number of foreign judges.



MISS EARTH IS A FILIPINO PAGEANT AND MOSTLY HELD IN THE PHILIPPINES, AND MOSTLY JUDGES ARE FILIPINOS EXCEPT THOSE EDITION WAS BEING HELD OUTSIDE THE PHILIPPINES.

PHILIPPINES ALWAYS IN THE SEMIS EXCEPT TO MISS HARN AND VIETNAM EDITION.
AND PHILIPPINES HAVE FOUR MISS EARTH AND A LOTS OF RUNNER UPS...
A BACK TO BACK AND ADDED TO THAT A SANDWICH VICTORY.

AS A FILIPINO DO I HAVE TO CELEBRATE????


As a Filipino I think you should celebrate it just as we celebrate every Filipino who made it to other pageants both majors and minors. It means no matter what pageant and which country a pageant is held, Filipinos always excel in this arena. We always celebrate that a Filipino judges are indeed good at selecting Philippine reps in all pageants held in the country.
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