Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finish?





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Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finish?

Postby ajsy0203 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:50 pm

    

Some of the Vietnamese facebook users claimed that Miss Vietnam finished 5th place at Miss Earth 2016 but Carousel never posted any official rankings of the remaining 4 finalists who did not make it to the final 4. And also they claimed that Nguyễn Thị Lệ Nam Em should had been the successor of the resigned/dethroned Bruna Zanardo instead of Corrin Stellakis as Miss Earth Fire? If these claims were true, it means that Athina Chia (2013), Bencelle Banzon (2014) and Tim Al-sowyed (2016) also finished 6th place prior to their inheritance of the vacated elemental titles or Carousel Executive Committee used another set of criteria to select which among the finalists to inherit the vacated elemental title?


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Re: Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finis

Postby Handsama » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:06 pm

I don't know how some of the Vietnamese fans came into that conclusion. As someone who follows Miss Earth closely, I don't seem to recall any pronouncement from Carousel regarding how the rest of the semifinalists placed.

As far as I'm concerned, any of the remaining top 8 would have been worthy of a crown. And I would have been very pleased too if Vietnam took over Miss Earth Fire instead as I really do like her. :hx
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Re: Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finis

Postby Ea'rend¿l » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:49 am

Im not against Corrinne but it would be lovely to see Vietnam as one of the elemental queens. 8->
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Re: Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finis

Postby manoypoe » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:13 am

Ea'rend¿l wrote:Im not against Corrinne but it would be lovely to see Vietnam as one of the elemental queens. 8->


I LOVE THEM BOTH. ANYONE OF THEM IS DESERVING. :=p :=p :=p
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Re: Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finis

Postby hauteegirl » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:24 am

This is why pageants should officially announce who's next to the ranking to avoid scandal.
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Re: Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finis

Postby stupid_jerk » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:17 am

hauteegirl wrote:This is why pageants should officially announce who's next to the ranking to avoid scandal.


I don't think this is to be considered as a scandal. A confusion may be the correct term to be used.

In line with this, as mentioned, no pronouncement was made on the ranking of the 4 remaining girls, so we have no basis on who should succeed any of the resigned/dethroned queen.

As an organization, MEO has the option to place who they deem as fit to replace any of the queens.

In my opinion though, the basis used were:

1. Who among the four (4) is actively promoting their advocasies. Based on FB posts, you can see that Corrin has been very active even after the international pageants, in comparison to the other queens.

2. Who can communicate the cause of the organization well. Basing it on the Earth talk portion of Miss earth 2016, Corrin and Cloie were clearly the next best options.

Don't get me wrong, i love Vietnam so much and even pray she joins other international pageants as i deem she still has tons to show. Although in this battle, Corrin clearly had an upper hand.
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Re: Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finis

Postby fermnedoza » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:46 am

Based from 2010 case when the Miss Earth-Air resigned, in choosing a replacement, Carousel actually practices the option of setting aside the outcome of the finals decided by the judges and select from the rest of the top 16 the girl whom they deemed to be a more compatible partner for their organization irregardless of her final ranking.

Bear in mind that while the pageant rule is clear on who should inherit the main crown (any of the three elemental queens and not necessarily Miss Earth Air) there is actually no rule that limits the organization from selecting the elemental replacement only from the top 8. On 2010, Russia's Victoria Shchukina (assumed Miss Earth Air) was just a quarter-finalist
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Re: Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finis

Postby DORABIAN » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:53 pm

GET A PROPER TRANSLATOR IS MORE IMPORTANT!!
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Re: Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finis

Postby manoypoe » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:17 pm

DORABIAN wrote:GET A PROPER TRANSLATOR IS MORE IMPORTANT!!


I THINK THEY HAVE IMPROVED. LOOK AT MISS UNIVERSE, THEY ARE ALSO STRUGGLING WITH INTERPRETERS. THEY SAID THAT FRANCE INTERPRETERS DID NOT TRANSLATE HER ANSWER CORRECTLY. BETTER GIRLS MUST AT LEAST BE CONVERSANT WITH INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE THAT IS ENGLISH SO THAT HER CHANCE OF WINNING WILL BE HIGHER (THOUGH IT IS NOT PREREQUISITE BUT IT IS GOING TO HELP).
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Re: Clarification about Miss Vietnam alleged 5th place finis

Postby DORABIAN » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:41 am

manoypoe wrote:
DORABIAN wrote:GET A PROPER TRANSLATOR IS MORE IMPORTANT!!


I THINK THEY HAVE IMPROVED. LOOK AT MISS UNIVERSE, THEY ARE ALSO STRUGGLING WITH INTERPRETERS. THEY SAID THAT FRANCE INTERPRETERS DID NOT TRANSLATE HER ANSWER CORRECTLY. BETTER GIRLS MUST AT LEAST BE CONVERSANT WITH INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE THAT IS ENGLISH SO THAT HER CHANCE OF WINNING WILL BE HIGHER (THOUGH IT IS NOT PREREQUISITE BUT IT IS GOING TO HELP).


ITS JUST MISTAKE ONE WORDS MEDICINE TO CASYING. WHILE IN ME THE TRANSLATOR EVEN STRUGGLING TO TRANSLATE THE WHOLE QUESTION & ANSWER.
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