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Postby UniversoMundoTierra » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:00 am

    

Breaking news!

The Miss Earth South Africa organization just released a press statement on the MESA FB page that they are prepared to received Irinie home earlier than anticipated due to different set of rule. Oh boy this is so sad knowing that the girl is already in Manila.. but Ms Earth has its rule to follow and we should respect that. Goodluck to her endevour though.. :hx


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Postby bcdf1930 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:20 am

Rules and requirements on height and weight? @-) @-) @-)
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Postby muflavanberg » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:31 am

Miss Earth South Africa disqualified? On what grounds? Age? Breach of contract? violation of ME rules and regulation?
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Postby batobato » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:31 am

Who decided to sent her home earlier than scheduled. MESA or Carousel Prod?

They should have let the girl finished competition, enjoyed the camaraderie, and join the activities but not qualified for judging than sending her home instead
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Postby sanen » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:46 am

I WAS OK WITH MISS EARTH UNTILL I SAW IMAGES OF GIRLS IN VEIL WTF WAS THAT????? NO MAKE UP Pre-judging was a good initiation but now the veil thing is absolute redundant to analyse a delegate body....Creepy as Fuc*
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YOU NEED TO HAVE HEIGHT TO HELP MOTHER EARTH? @-) @-) @-)
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Postby UniversoMundoTierra » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:02 am

bcdf1930 wrote:YOU NEED TO HAVE HEIGHT TO HELP MOTHER EARTH? @-) @-) @-)


Lets generalize this.. are beauty pageants have rules and standards??
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Postby SHREWD » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:06 am

She was disqualified because of her height?

But those "chubby" and in the borderline of being "fat" delegates in the past were not disqualified?

What's happening Miss Earth? Please enlighten us.
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Postby SHREWD » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:12 am

How about Miss Earth Guam 2015? How about Athena Imperial? Those ladies are obviously short as well. What's the difference?

How about Miss Earth Lebanon 2009? How about Miss Earth Egypt 2014? They are obviously not in good shape but they managed to finish the competition.

So it's okay to be fat (but not short in height) to join Miss Earth? I'm confused now. ~X(
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Postby UniversoMundoTierra » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:28 am

SHREWD wrote:How about Miss Earth Guam 2015? How about Athena Imperial? Those ladies are obviously short as well. What's the difference?

How about Miss Earth Lebanon 2009? How about Miss Earth Egypt 2014? They are obviously not in good shape but they managed to finish the competition.

So it's okay to be fat (but not short in height) to join Miss Earth? I'm confused now. ~X(


Hahahaha dont overreact. Miss Earth set rules and requirements and its just fortunate that not in good shape or being fat was not included in the criteria but unfortunately for Ms South Africa height matters to ME. Yoi try to check the website maybe you can see what im talking about. That just simple instructions dont confused yourself and dont make it complicated.. :%)) :%)) :%))
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Postby Jayincy » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:33 am

SHREWD wrote:How about Miss Earth Guam 2015? How about Athena Imperial? Those ladies are obviously short as well. What's the difference?

How about Miss Earth Lebanon 2009? How about Miss Earth Egypt 2014? They are obviously not in good shape but they managed to finish the competition.

So it's okay to be fat (but not short in height) to join Miss Earth? I'm confused now. ~X(


Though I am sad that Irini has to go back home, but a rule is a rule. The MESA knew about it, but they sent her anyway and took the risk. So whose fault is it? And those girl you mention were indeed short however, they met the height requirement. Look at Miss Earth Guam 2017. She is 17 when she won. But the MEG organization knew she has to be 18 so they decided to send her next year instead.
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Postby SHREWD » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:37 am

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SHREWD wrote:How about Miss Earth Guam 2015? How about Athena Imperial? Those ladies are obviously short as well. What's the difference?

How about Miss Earth Lebanon 2009? How about Miss Earth Egypt 2014? They are obviously not in good shape but they managed to finish the competition.

So it's okay to be fat (but not short in height) to join Miss Earth? I'm confused now. ~X(


Hahahaha dont overreact. Miss Earth set rules and requirements and its just fortunate that not in good shape or being fat was not included in the criteria but unfortunately for Ms South Africa height matters to ME. Yoi try to check the website maybe you can see what im talking about. That just simple instructions dont confused yourself and dont make it complicated.. :%)) :%)) :%))


What? height matters but weight doesn't? I guess those two elements should be considered in a beauty pageant. Well...Miss Earth is truly unique (and a bit weird) in certain aspects.

By the way...Isn't it Miss Earth Guam 2015 was way too short during her batch? But she was not disqualified?
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Postby SHREWD » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:45 am

Who should be blamed? The national directors of Miss Earth Guam (age issue) and Miss Earth South Africa (height issue).

Hello! They've been sending delegates to Miss Earth for so many years.. They should've mastered all the rules of Miss Earth.

Also, I just noticed that national director of Miss Earth South Africa has a very low taste. She keeps on ignoring gorgeous ladies year after year.
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Postby Busyboy » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:53 am

Shrewd, calm down!

Take a deep breath and read the MESA's press release for enlightenment.

And please, huwag nang buhayin ang mga bangkay na matagal nang nailibing...
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Postby SHREWD » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:59 am

Busyboy wrote:Shrewd, calm down!

Take a deep breath and read the MESA's press release for enlightenment.

And please, huwag nang buhayin ang mga bangkay na matagal nang nailibing...


I'm just disappointed with the ND of South Africa. I feel sorry for the delegate who's been here for almost a month now.

So, the ND of Miss Earth SA is no longer Catherine Constantinides? The one who received an award last 2014?
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Postby muflavanberg » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:12 am

Thanks for the answer. Miss South Africa did not meet the Miss Earth's minimum height requirement. MESA knew about this and chose to let her compete.
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SHREWD wrote:How about Miss Earth Guam 2015? How about Athena Imperial? Those ladies are obviously short as well. What's the difference?

How about Miss Earth Lebanon 2009? How about Miss Earth Egypt 2014? They are obviously not in good shape but they managed to finish the competition.

So it's okay to be fat (but not short in height) to join Miss Earth? I'm confused now. ~X(


Hahahaha dont overreact. Miss Earth set rules and requirements and its just fortunate that not in good shape or being fat was not included in the criteria but unfortunately for Ms South Africa height matters to ME. Yoi try to check the website maybe you can see what im talking about. That just simple instructions dont confused yourself and dont make it complicated.. :%)) :%)) :%))


What? height matters but weight doesn't? I guess those two elements should be considered in a beauty pageant. Well...Miss Earth is truly unique (and a bit weird) in certain aspects.

By the way...Isn't it Miss Earth Guam 2015 was way too short during her batch? But she was not disqualified?


Yeah she was short and i remember i think it was Ms Colombia or Venezuela who push her to the side because she was overwhelmed that she was called last in the top16. =;)) =;)) =;)) But yeah to answer your question she is 5'5 in height.
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Postby manoypoe » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:49 am

IT IS VERY CLEAR IN THEIR PRESS RELEASE THAT SHE INDEED DID NOT PASS THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT. WEIGHT IS NOT A PROBLEM IN MISS EARTH. IT SO HAPPENED THAT THEY HAVE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT.
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Postby Sybarite » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:03 am

If ME decides to just ignore the height requirement rule and allow Miss South Africa to continue and actually win one of the titles at stake, Do you guys think that the other girls or their National Directors do not have the right to file a lawsuit against the Organization? This is not a matter of whether they should have a weight requirement too or if height and weight has something to do with saving the environment. That's beside the point. All legitimate pageants have rules and these rules are legal and a violation of even just one of the rules will cause a serious problem to an organization. It is Miss South Africa's ND that is at fault here. Is Miss SA even aware that she does not meet one of ME's requirements before coming to Manila?
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Postby manoypoe » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:10 am

Sybarite wrote:If ME decides to just ignore the height requirement rule and allow Miss South Africa to continue and actually win one of the titles at stake, Do you guys think that the other girls or their National Directors do not have the right to file a lawsuit against the Organization? This is not a matter of whether they should have a weight requirement too or if height and weight has something to do with saving the environment. That's beside the point. All legitimate pageants have rules and these rules are legal and a violation of even just one of the rules will cause a serious problem to an organization. It is Miss South Africa's ND that is at fault here. Is Miss SA even aware that she does not meet one of ME's requirements before coming to Manila?


IF YOU READ THE LETTER, YES THEY KNOW. THEY COULD HAVE JUST SELECTED ONE OF THEIR DELEGATES EARLIER OR EVEN THE RUNNER UP, SEND HER TO THE PHILIPPINES AND LET IRIS RETAIN HER TITLE. ANNEMIEKE COULD HAVE BEEN A GAME CHANGER. :=p :=p
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Postby quelab22 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:52 pm

first and foremost it is the Local organizer's fault and second how come that the MEOrg/Carousel did not confirm this one prior to the International competition, but again it is still the local org's fault.
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:59 pm

With South Africa out of the running, how will MUO handle the Miss Brazil's underage situation when the registration and fitting or the pageant will commence? Will they follow MEO's path or will they bend the rules?
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Sybarite wrote:If ME decides to just ignore the height requirement rule and allow Miss South Africa to continue and actually win one of the titles at stake, Do you guys think that the other girls or their National Directors do not have the right to file a lawsuit against the Organization? This is not a matter of whether they should have a weight requirement too or if height and weight has something to do with saving the environment. That's beside the point. All legitimate pageants have rules and these rules are legal and a violation of even just one of the rules will cause a serious problem to an organization. It is Miss South Africa's ND that is at fault here. Is Miss SA even aware that she does not meet one of ME's requirements before coming to Manila?


Based on their official statement, YES, they knew about it but took the risk. Carousel has been too nice. I think the ND's are the culprits in this but rightfully so. Rules have to be followed. And shame on MESA for trying it. There is no weight requirement, ok? Stop being shady.
I have hunch that they are doing this for PUBLICITY purposes. Heard thru chismis she was offered a non-compete status, similar to Miss Universe Indonesia in 1994. But they chose to have her home.
I hope I am wrong but I have a bad feeling. This could be a Nawat (MGI owner previously owned ME Thailand) or that bitch from Egypt who owns Eco Universe/International/World, gosh I don't know anymore, they keep changing names!They might be planning a pageant because they kept on refering to Irini as the "Green Queen" and they might use this and say, "Oh, we accept all height and weight"
To MESA, I say bullshit. If indeed they are cooking something, Carousel should benon alert!
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Postby filipinoako28 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:49 pm

This video is for all those questioning Carousel's decision to disqualify Miss Earth South Africa. MESA Org was disrespectful and to be quite honest, opportunistic. If everything is politically correct, we will be living in a world wherein disadvantages will be cookie/brownie points instead for pushing for FAIRNESS, in which, the latter begins with ADHERENCE TO RULES! Watch the video.

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Postby Reeves » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:45 pm

sanen wrote:I WAS OK WITH MISS EARTH UNTILL I SAW IMAGES OF GIRLS IN VEIL WTF WAS THAT????? NO MAKE UP Pre-judging was a good initiation but now the veil thing is absolute redundant to analyse a delegate body....Creepy as Fuc*


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Re: MISS EARTH SOUTH AFRICA 2017 IS DISQUALIFIED!

Postby Reeves » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:00 pm

SHREWD wrote:How about Miss Earth Guam 2015? How about Athena Imperial? Those ladies are obviously short as well. What's the difference?

How about Miss Earth Lebanon 2009? How about Miss Earth Egypt 2014? They are obviously not in good shape but they managed to finish the competition.

So it's okay to be fat (but not short in height) to join Miss Earth? I'm confused now. ~X(


Here's again your litany of criticisms of Miss Earth. As if your opinion really matter to them. lOL
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Re: MISS EARTH SOUTH AFRICA 2017 IS DISQUALIFIED!

Postby Handsama » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:17 pm

Reeves wrote:
SHREWD wrote:How about Miss Earth Guam 2015? How about Athena Imperial? Those ladies are obviously short as well. What's the difference?

How about Miss Earth Lebanon 2009? How about Miss Earth Egypt 2014? They are obviously not in good shape but they managed to finish the competition.

So it's okay to be fat (but not short in height) to join Miss Earth? I'm confused now. ~X(


Here's again your litany of criticisms of Miss Earth. As if your opinion really matter to them. lOL


I think the difference is that Guam and Philippines satisfied the minimum height criterion of 5'5". Of course the height disadvantage became more noticeable when they stood beside their taller competition.

Minus SA, Austria and Northern Ireland are the shortest girls this year, I believe. But when I saw a picture of SA standing beside Austria, I noticed that she was a few inches shorter which meant she must have been around 5'2" if that. And I still remember that one picture from the start of the pageant when SA looked like a 12 y/o standing beside other girls. :-O

It's true that there is no specific weight criterion which is why I thought it was smart of Carousel to introduce veils in the Beauty of Figure competition. Without saying anything, they've basically sent a message to the NDs out there to choose more carefully. They've just made it more difficult for someone like Nancy Magdy to place.
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Re: MISS EARTH SOUTH AFRICA 2017 IS DISQUALIFIED!

Postby Enilk » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:32 pm

South Africa's height is 5'1 and the minimum height requirement for Miss Earth is 5'4. There's a rumor that MESA lied to carousel about the height of Irina and when they got here, they measured her height again and it shows that she's only 5'1 that's why carousel decided to disqualify her.
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Re: MISS EARTH SOUTH AFRICA 2017 IS DISQUALIFIED!

Postby DORABIAN » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:36 pm

I THOUGHT THE ORGANIZATION WILL EMBRACE HER HEIGHT LIKE SOMEONE SAID? 8-}
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