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MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby riverrobles » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:31 pm

    








It is now confirmed: @missworld 2021 will be crowned in Puerto Rico, on March 16th.

The pageant’s Top 40 official list will be announced on Friday, January 21st, and only these 40 quarter-finalists will be invited to return to the Caribbean nation.

Who do you believe will make the list of 40 quarter-finalists, still hoping to succeed @toniannsingh ??

Remember that 15 of them have already been selected, as fast-track and head to head challenges winners.

Much good luck to all!!


So who would be your complete top 40?


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Postby kurtij » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:00 pm

THOUGHT IT WAS TOP 30?

WE'LL DEF HAVE:
FRANCE
PUERTO RICO
INDONESIA
COLOMBIA (HOPEFULLY)

NOTE SURE ABOUT THE OTHERS....
MAYBE
BRAZIL
NORTHERN IRELAND
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby Stoichio » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:16 am

The number of first cut in Miss World (40) is equivalent to the total number of participants in Now-what Its-a-rag-in-hell’s pageant in 2021 =;)) =;)) =;))
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Postby ClubEarthMisso » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:35 am

Stoichio wrote:The number of first cut in Miss World (40) is equivalent to the total number of participants in Now-what Its-a-rag-in-hell’s pageant in 2021 =;)) =;)) =;))


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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby radagasdas » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:46 am

riverrobles wrote:


It is now confirmed: @missworld 2021 will be crowned in Puerto Rico, on March 16th.

The pageant’s Top 40 official list will be announced on Friday, January 21st, and only these 40 quarter-finalists will be invited to return to the Caribbean nation.

Who do you believe will make the list of 40 quarter-finalists, still hoping to succeed @toniannsingh ??

Remember that 15 of them have already been selected, as fast-track and head to head challenges winners.

Much good luck to all!!


So who would be your complete top 40?




I think this going to be same as 2019 pageant,

from Top 40 to Top 12 to Top 5 then the 3 winners-

2 runners up and the crown winner.

It's better due to Covid-19 situation in Puerto Rico.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby riverrobles » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:30 pm

Here is the list to complete the Top 40

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The List of TOP 40 Semi-finalists in 70TH Miss World 2021 Competition

Miss World Argentina 2021 Amira Hidalgo
Miss World Bahamas 2021 Sienna Evans
Miss World Miss World Botswana 2021 Palesa Mofele
Miss World Brazil 2021 Caroline Teixeira
Miss World Cameroon 2021 Audrey Monkam
Miss World Canada 2021 Svetlana Mamaeva
Miss World Chile 2021 Carol Drpic
Miss World China 2021 Jiang Siqi
Miss World Colombia 2021 Andrea Aguilera
Miss World Cote D'Ivoire 2021 Olivia Yacé
Miss World Czech Republic 2021 Karolína Kopíncová
Miss World Dominican Republic 2021 Emmy Pena
Miss World Ecuador 2021 Ámar Pacheco
Miss World England 2021 Rehema Muthamia
Miss World France 2021 April Benayoum
Miss World Guinea 2021 Nene Bah
Miss World Hungary 2021 Lili Tótpeti
Miss World Iceland 2021 Hugrún Birta Egilsdóttir
Miss World India 2021 Manasa Varanasi
Miss World Indonesia 2021 Carla Yules
Miss World Ireland 2021 Pamela Uba
Miss World Kenya 2021 Sharon Obara
Miss World Madagascar 2021 Nellie Anjaratiana
Miss World Malaysia 2021 Lavanya Sivaji
Miss World Mexico 2021 Karolina Vidales
Miss World Mongolia 2021 Burte-Ujin Anu
Miss World Nepal 2021 Namrata Shrestha
Miss World Nicaragua 2021 Sheynnis Palacios
Miss World Northern Ireland 2021 Anna Leitch
Miss World Paraguay 2021 Bethania Borba
Miss World Philippines 2021 Tracy Perez
Miss World Poland 2021 Karolina Bielawska
Miss World Puerto Rico 2021 Aryam Díaz
Miss World Somalia 2021 Khadija Omar
Miss World South Africa 2021 Shudufhadzo Musida
Miss World Sri Lanka 2021 Sadé Greenwood
Miss World Trinidad and Tobago 2021 Jeanine Brandt
Miss World United States 2021 Shree Saini
Miss World Venezuela 2021 Alejandra Conde
Miss World Vietnam 2021 Đỗ Thị Hà
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby Specialfx » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:07 pm

For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby Fany » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:15 pm

Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.


Somalia, a handpicked Canadian national with no BWAP and not one fast track placement gets picked over officially elected winners of their countries with BWAPs and multiple fast track placements.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby riverrobles » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:39 pm

Let us analyse the data we have right now and maybe correlate it with factors that would make good business for the Miss World brand and its sponsors.


Ok below is the list of Top 40 and I'll just include factors outside of the pageant that would or could sway the organization.

We all know that all the ladies are winners from their respective national pageants.

It means everyone is equal once they arrive and factors like each countries' sash can mean or be correlated to the huge consumer market it can offer (i.e. the total population of that country, the population below 30- people, female-to-male ratio) who can buy beauty products, personal care and luxury goods. You will be surprised, I can see a correlation below.

I am not invalidating the achievement of each ladies however a beauty pageant is still a business hence aside from the judges and the criteria or requirements in MW there are other pageant biases or lets say factors that could easily predict a winner . See the observations below and we can discuss why it is basically the same countries are being called each year regardless of pageant not only in MW. What say you dear pageant observers?

Factor 1: A huge population means a bigger market for products, good advertising revenues correlates to why these countries are in the top 40.
Miss World China 2021 Jiang Siqi - Top 1 rank in population per country
Miss World India 2021 Manasa Varanasi - Top 2 rank in population per country
Miss World United States 2021 Shree Saini - Top 3 rank in population per country
Miss World Puerto Rico 2021 Aryam Díaz - Top 3 rank in population per country (as part of USA), Top 14 rank in country with most females
Miss World Indonesia 2021 Carla Yules - Top 4 rank in population per country
Miss World Brazil 2021 Caroline Teixeira - Top 6 rank in population per country
Miss World Mexico 2021 Karolina Vidales - Top 10 rank in population per country
Miss World Philippines 2021 Tracy Perez - Top 13 rank in population per country
Miss World Vietnam 2021 Đỗ Thị Hà - Top 15 rank in population per country

The population list above starts with China's 1.4 billion people until Vietnam's 98 million people and still increasing.

Go figure why these countries are just switching placements each year not only in MW but also in other pageants.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby kurtij » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:26 am

Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.


I am 50/50 about Somalia.
She is kinda giving me a "Not Authentic" vibe.
It's like she only went there to experience competing.

Her introduction video, are like various ootage from the internet, lacks engagements in Somalia.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby kurtij » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:37 am

I FEEL BAD FOR MISS HAITI.
SHE WANTED TO WIN THE HEAD TO HEAD CHALLENGE, YOU CAN SEE IT IN HER REACTION WHEN THEY ARE ANNOUNCING THE WINNER BETWEEN HER AND NICARAGUA.

IT LOOKED LIKE, SHE DIDN'T FEEL AFTER THE TRANSLATION OF HER STATEMENTS/ ANSWERS.
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Postby riverrobles » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:16 am

kurtij wrote:THOUGHT IT WAS TOP 30?

WE'LL DEF HAVE:
FRANCE
PUERTO RICO
INDONESIA
COLOMBIA (HOPEFULLY)

NOTE SURE ABOUT THE OTHERS....
MAYBE
BRAZIL
NORTHERN IRELAND
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Wow you are an expert! You got it all !
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby riverrobles » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:43 am

Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.


In both points we need to go back to who is part of the judging panel, the judging criteria and the weight of each criteria.

Even if its a pity placement, how come another country which debut in Miss World 2021, Miss Iraq , was not chosen between the two then?

If you look at it Miss Somalia represents by proxy other Muslim countries and Muslim women who are restricted and not allowed to even go out and join a pageant just because they are Muslim women or becauase they are wearing a hijab or jilbap. The huge chunk of it is in Asia (e.g. Indonesia-hijab wearing ladies, Pakistan, Bangladesh plus these 3 have the highest Muslim populations in the world) and Africa (e.g. Egypt, Sudan, Muslim part of Nigeria and these 3 have the highest population numbers in Africa)

Even if it is Miss Iraq, there was already a statement that Miss Iraq Organization was unsure of sendng their delegate back to Puerto Rico this coming March. So between the two, it was really Miss Somalia who has the edge.

Miss World Organization is an institution, it is a good platform for its winners and their respective causes and it has been helping underprivileged communities around the world. Business-wise, beauty pageants as an industry is thriving , growing and is good business including Miss World, even conflict ridden countries like Somalia and Iraq now have franchises, it really means Miss World is not a waste of time and money, people can make profit.

Pity placement points, she was also one of the last delegate to leave Puerto Rico due to the COVID19 isolation rules :-)
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby riverrobles » Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:18 am

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Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.


Somalia, a handpicked Canadian national with no BWAP and not one fast track placement gets picked over officially elected winners of their countries with BWAPs and multiple fast track placements.


Legally Khadija did nothing wrong, the criteria by the Miss Somalia organization is seen below, even if she is now in Canada or Kenya or anywhere, she is allowed to represent Somalia because of the criteria stated by the Miss Somalia organization.


• Natural born Female • Never been married, single, never given birth • 17-27 years of age (by competition year) • Minimum height of 5 feet 4 inches (164.6 cm) • Posses beauty of face and proportionate body structure • Outgoing and friendly • Excellent physical condition • Has knowledge of her country’s culture and environment Important: A national delegate for MISS SOMALIA should be a SOMALI born female irrespective of where they are located across the globe.

Technically she also has a BWAP but I think what you mean is she does not have a BWAP with a before and after comparison wherein she as a Miss Somalia representative did not show any concrete presentation of an existing problem of her community that she helped solve and even continuously support and sustain. So I agree with you on this, there are other delegates which has better BWAPs. I think there are other criteria that we as spectators do not see like how the judges see it in person. So it all boils down to the judging panel. A beauty pageant is like boxing, if you can't knock out your opponent (in pageants a knockout is pure beauty of face , form and wit) the win will always be decided by a judging panel.

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However she can communicate well as seen in this interview even if English is not her 1st language.
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Aside from that, Somalia is opening-up and it has a population wherein 46% are below 15 and the median age is 18.1 a very young market, a good recipe for Unilver /Procter and Gamble/ L'Oreal to name a few. Khadija is a perfect image for a young, assertive Muslim woman.

Here is another theory, The Top 10 youngest population in the world is all in Africa and that includes Somalia, it really makes perfect sense. With a majority of the population being young, it opens to consumerist attitudes, new technologies, new ideas, new brands, forward-looking ideas and of course upliftment of women.

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Postby the critic » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:15 pm

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Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.


Somalia, a handpicked Canadian national with no BWAP and not one fast track placement gets picked over officially elected winners of their countries with BWAPs and multiple fast track placements.


Y'ALL HAVE BEEN HATING ON SOMALIA AND PUTTING HER DOWN FROM THE COMPETITION WAS ONGOING. PAGEANTS ARE ABOUT STANDING OUT AND GETTING NOTICED AND SHE DID THAT WELL ENOUGH WITH HER STORY IN THE MIND OF THE JUDGES TO EARN A PLACEMENT.
ITS THIS CRAB IN BARRELL MENTALITY WHY WOMEN STAY OPPRESSED IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD. IT ALSO STINKS OF RACISM.
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Postby the critic » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:23 pm

kurtij wrote:THOUGHT IT WAS TOP 30?

WE'LL DEF HAVE:
FRANCE
PUERTO RICO
INDONESIA
COLOMBIA (HOPEFULLY)

NOTE SURE ABOUT THE OTHERS....
MAYBE
BRAZIL
NORTHERN IRELAND
.......


THE ORIGINAL SHOW WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A TOP 30 (MAYBE BECAUSE THEY HAD FEWER COUNTRIES FOR THE EDITION). I GUESS THEY CHOSE TO ADD 10 MORE SLOTS SINCE THEY ARE ONLY CALLING BACK SOME.
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Postby panchopolo » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:11 pm

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Stoichio wrote:The number of first cut in Miss World (40) is equivalent to the total number of participants in Now-what Its-a-rag-in-hell’s pageant in 2021 =;)) =;)) =;))


Hahaha nailed it!!!

Recently I saw a info graph on my insta feed from a gwand pageant fan page about how many followers each contest on their respective intagram accounts and they are proud that gwand have the second largest followers. I replied maybe next time make an info graph on how many countries participate each year hahaha =;)) =;)) =;))


And the infographic after that should show what and how many countries those "second largest followers" come from. It will obviously be a single-digit listing (my guess: six countries, including Libya) :%))
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby Fany » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:40 pm

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Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.



If you look at it Miss Somalia represents by proxy other Muslim countries and Muslim women who are restricted and not allowed to even go out and join a pageant just because they are Muslim women or becauase they are wearing a hijab or jilbap. The huge chunk of it is in Asia (e.g. Indonesia-hijab wearing ladies, Pakistan, Bangladesh plus these 3 have the highest Muslim populations in the world) and Africa (e.g. Egypt, Sudan, Muslim part of Nigeria and these 3 have the highest population numbers in Africa)



I don’t know why bring up religion as a platform for representation in pageants. Do we ever talk about Miss X representing Christian girls or Miss Y representing Buddhist girls? Sounds so stupid and primitive.

Religion is a private matter and should not even be brought up in pageants or used a platform for representation. Religion is not a country, ethnicity, nationality or even a culture and has no place in pageantry!

Somalia represents only herself and her country. Doesn’t make any sense for her to claim representation for “Muslim girls”.

But if you want to talk religion, why not speak of Misses Turkey and Tunisia who are much better examples of progressive liberated universal women from the “Muslim world”? Coz these 2 girls have much more to bring to the table than their religion.

I don’t give a rat’s ass about what religion someone is and I don’t care to know. If Somalia wants to use her religion as a platform she can join Miss World Muslimah pageant.
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Postby kurtij » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:14 pm

IT IS A RARE SCENARIO, IN ANY PAGEANT:

ECUADOR, NICARAGUA AND PARAGUAY MAKING THE FIRST CUT TOGETHER.
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Postby prowazekii » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:26 pm

still no swimsuit portion boring. No swimsuits sponsor. oh well
i think of Miss Universe who is the most beautiful, most femininely graceful, most charming, delightful and sweet...
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Postby Specialfx » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:45 pm

'' But if you want to talk about religion, why not speak of Misses Turkey and Tunisia who are much better examples of progressive liberated universal women from the “Muslim world”? Coz these 2 girls have much more to bring to the table than their religion''. <:-P BINGO =c3 :=p
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby panchopolo » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:34 am

riverrobles wrote:Let us analyse the data we have right now and maybe correlate it with factors that would make good business for the Miss World brand and its sponsors.

Ok below is the list of Top 40 and I'll just include factors outside of the pageant that would or could sway the organization.

We all know that all the ladies are winners from their respective national pageants.

It means everyone is equal once they arrive and factors like each countries' sash can mean or be correlated to the huge consumer market it can offer (i.e. the total population of that country, the population below 30- people, female-to-male ratio) who can buy beauty products, personal care and luxury goods. You will be surprised, I can see a correlation below.

Factor 1: A huge population means a bigger market for products, good advertising revenues correlates to why these countries are in the top 40.
Miss World China 2021 Jiang Siqi - Top 1 rank in population per country
Miss World India 2021 Manasa Varanasi - Top 2 rank in population per country
Miss World United States 2021 Shree Saini - Top 3 rank in population per country
Miss World Puerto Rico 2021 Aryam Díaz - Top 3 rank in population per country (as part of USA), Top 14 rank in country with most females
Miss World Indonesia 2021 Carla Yules - Top 4 rank in population per country
Miss World Brazil 2021 Caroline Teixeira - Top 6 rank in population per country
Miss World Mexico 2021 Karolina Vidales - Top 10 rank in population per country
Miss World Philippines 2021 Tracy Perez - Top 13 rank in population per country
Miss World Vietnam 2021 Đỗ Thị Hà - Top 15 rank in population per country


Except that no one knows exactly what brand Miss World is marketing, because "Miss World" itself is only attractive to pageant followers. Targeting these populations because of perceived per capita media reach is no longer useful; Miss World's recent television ratings in these countries were not impactful. In the list above, only Indonesia, the Philippines, and Vietnam (and arguably Mexico) have the most visible social media presence and real interest from fans. China, where Facebook and its products are banned, is no longer lucrative.

If it's about the products and services sold by its vendor partners, then what matters are countries with measurable purchasing power. In this case, the fastest booming countries today should be up there--Macau, UK, Sweden, along with India and Ireland.

Such is the business of running pageants in a world that no longer cares for it. You need to be in places that can grow and sustain your business and have audiences with purchasing parity that can support you. This is why Miss Earth continues to thrive: it has understood the need to evolve, to try new things, to keep their profit-and-loss sheets in check . . . and to ignore those so-called pageant fans who attacked their cost-cutting online tactics, as they are not the right audience to grow with.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby riverrobles » Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:23 pm

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Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.



If you look at it Miss Somalia represents by proxy other Muslim countries and Muslim women who are restricted and not allowed to even go out and join a pageant just because they are Muslim women or becauase they are wearing a hijab or jilbap. The huge chunk of it is in Asia (e.g. Indonesia-hijab wearing ladies, Pakistan, Bangladesh plus these 3 have the highest Muslim populations in the world) and Africa (e.g. Egypt, Sudan, Muslim part of Nigeria and these 3 have the highest population numbers in Africa)



I don’t know why bring up religion as a platform for representation in pageants. Do we ever talk about Miss X representing Christian girls or Miss Y representing Buddhist girls? Sounds so stupid and primitive.

Religion is a private matter and should not even be brought up in pageants or used a platform for representation. Religion is not a country, ethnicity, nationality or even a culture and has no place in pageantry!

Somalia represents only herself and her country. Doesn’t make any sense for her to claim representation for “Muslim girls”.

But if you want to talk religion, why not speak of Misses Turkey and Tunisia who are much better examples of progressive liberated universal women from the “Muslim world”? Coz these 2 girls have much more to bring to the table than their religion.

I don’t give a rat’s ass about what religion someone is and I don’t care to know. If Somalia wants to use her religion as a platform she can join Miss World Muslimah pageant.


What I am talking about is the image of a hijab-wearing Muslim woman, Miss Somalia represents those young Muslim woman by proxy and collectively it accounts to more than a billion people .

Miss World is actually riding on the popularity of Halima Aden (another Somali born like Khadija) who also did pageants and now is a fashion model. Khadija could replace her while Halima is on hiatus :-)

I am talking more of business side why Khadija would be picked compared to Miss Turkey or Miss Tunisia , I am describing it as it is because Khadija is a hijab wearing Muslim, an image that probably Miss World wants to cash in, marketing her as a poster girl for thse closed countries and letting them imagine a hijab-wearing woman from Miss World Somalia can do this and accomplish this. This I can say even Indonesia, more conservative than Turkey or Tunisa, at least should've tried selling the image of a hijab-jilbap wearing Muslim woman.

Miss Somalia Organization was wise to sell this image and hope they maximize the engagement. I saw Khadija and Olivia Yace's Insta interview and stories, Q and A with fans and followers when they were in isolation and the engagement was high especially from Indonesia, Nigeria, Kenya and other sub-saharan countries.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby riverrobles » Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:18 pm

panchopolo wrote:
riverrobles wrote:Let us analyse the data we have right now and maybe correlate it with factors that would make good business for the Miss World brand and its sponsors.

Ok below is the list of Top 40 and I'll just include factors outside of the pageant that would or could sway the organization.

We all know that all the ladies are winners from their respective national pageants.

It means everyone is equal once they arrive and factors like each countries' sash can mean or be correlated to the huge consumer market it can offer (i.e. the total population of that country, the population below 30- people, female-to-male ratio) who can buy beauty products, personal care and luxury goods. You will be surprised, I can see a correlation below.

Factor 1: A huge population means a bigger market for products, good advertising revenues correlates to why these countries are in the top 40.
Miss World China 2021 Jiang Siqi - Top 1 rank in population per country
Miss World India 2021 Manasa Varanasi - Top 2 rank in population per country
Miss World United States 2021 Shree Saini - Top 3 rank in population per country
Miss World Puerto Rico 2021 Aryam Díaz - Top 3 rank in population per country (as part of USA), Top 14 rank in country with most females
Miss World Indonesia 2021 Carla Yules - Top 4 rank in population per country
Miss World Brazil 2021 Caroline Teixeira - Top 6 rank in population per country
Miss World Mexico 2021 Karolina Vidales - Top 10 rank in population per country
Miss World Philippines 2021 Tracy Perez - Top 13 rank in population per country
Miss World Vietnam 2021 Đỗ Thị Hà - Top 15 rank in population per country


Except that no one knows exactly what brand Miss World is marketing, because "Miss World" itself is only attractive to pageant followers. Targeting these populations because of perceived per capita media reach is no longer useful; Miss World's recent television ratings in these countries were not impactful. In the list above, only Indonesia, the Philippines, and Vietnam (and arguably Mexico) have the most visible social media presence and real interest from fans. China, where Facebook and its products are banned, is no longer lucrative.

If it's about the products and services sold by its vendor partners, then what matters are countries with measurable purchasing power. In this case, the fastest booming countries today should be up there--Macau, UK, Sweden, along with India and Ireland.

Such is the business of running pageants in a world that no longer cares for it. You need to be in places that can grow and sustain your business and have audiences with purchasing parity that can support you. This is why Miss Earth continues to thrive: it has understood the need to evolve, to try new things, to keep their profit-and-loss sheets in check . . . and to ignore those so-called pageant fans who attacked their cost-cutting online tactics, as they are not the right audience to grow with.


Population is just one of the factor but you have to admit it really correlates to the ones picked each year regardless of pageant.
From the countries you mentioned, UK (represented by england and Northern Ireland), India and Ireland are in the Top 40 actually.
If Bangladesh is back in Miss World, I think they will be part of the Top 40 again. Then if Pakistan or Egypt even joins, that would be another vote-rich country.

There are other factors like the number of young people, the median age of a country and the ratio of the number of woman than men and purchasing power as you mentioned .

One great example also of the combination of high population and purchasing power and their correlation to a placement in a pageant , the wildcard or internet voting. It is really being maximized Miss World via Mobstar, The Miss Universe app by Miss Universe, Miss Globe, Miss Supranational. Miss Gr@nd International etc. The countries which I can see called often are Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, Nepal.

I also want to add the importance of broadcasting a pageant in live TV, the larger the country or reach of a network or a cable company, it equates to more viewers, more voters and more advertisers and sponsors via product placements, clothes or shoes by delegates, swimsuits, haircare, make-up, the hotel, the resort. Why we see more developing countries and not any developed country is winning here, it is because here even in Germany where I live, even if people can afford to support a delegate via paid voting, no one watches pageants even on free or public TV,much more in cable. Plus again to correlate with the median age, younger people are savvy or experts in using apps. Here even in Germany, majority of the people still prefer cash than cards, even the Sbahn trains majority are still using paper tickets. Totally opposite to Singapore or China, but that is off topic already. I hope you get my point.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby Angela » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:20 am

Shree Saini does not have any business competing in MW at all because she is NOT the original Miss World America 2020 (it is Alissa Anderegg). Shree's family bribed the MWA organization to take away the title from Alissa and give it to Shree who was not even in the top 5! Shree is evil.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby Jon A » Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:00 pm

My 2 cents - on the whole this was a very good list, and it felt mostly based on merit. There were big countries in and big countries left out, small countries in and small ones left out.
For me the only REAL surprises are China, Iceland and Hungary but China is a big and important market and although this girl was not a physical standout she was more accomplished and well spoken than many others we have seen from China and it is possible that her live impression was stronger. Hungary and Iceland were also surprises but not beyond the pale.

I was really happy to see Ecuador, Argentina, Chile, Northern Ireland, Guinea, Botswana, Madagascar, Sri Lanka -- these countries have been overlooked for so long and it was nice to see them make the cut in a year when they sent exceptionally strong delegates!

I was sad not to see Armenia, Tunisia and Peru and a bit surprised not to see Slovakia, Nigeria and Japan but I think that's more bad luck than anything else. Slovakia in particular did not manage to stand out for whatever reason and while Japan stood out, she lacked a standout beauty, like Nigeria and this is a beauty pageant.

Somalia did not surprise me -- objectively she has a stunning face, a sweet personality and the reaality is that somehow she stood out. That a is 50% oof the battle in a pageant....when judges ar making a list of 50 girls out of 100+ - who do they remember? I'd be surprised to see her in the top 12, but top 40 is definitely credible and I would say, deserved. you could say its just politics and exposure but the reality is that this is MW, they do not do this kind of stuff - we have not seen some big spate of news articles talking about Miss Somalia and that she is the first hijab finalist or anything nor is it telecast in Somalia or other countries where it could have an impact so no there's nothing there beyond the fact that for whatever reason, the jury liked her. She may not have had a BWP but why single her out -- neither did Cote d'Ivoire - and SHE had lots of time, resources and an experienced pageant org, yet everyone feels she can WIN Miss World! And as a reminder, even girls like Toni Ann did not have a big BWAP or even any (not sure).
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby lingintexas » Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:37 pm

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Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.


Somalia, a handpicked Canadian national with no BWAP and not one fast track placement gets picked over officially elected winners of their countries with BWAPs and multiple fast track placements.


Y'ALL HAVE BEEN HATING ON SOMALIA AND PUTTING HER DOWN FROM THE COMPETITION WAS ONGOING. PAGEANTS ARE ABOUT STANDING OUT AND GETTING NOTICED AND SHE DID THAT WELL ENOUGH WITH HER STORY IN THE MIND OF THE JUDGES TO EARN A PLACEMENT.
ITS THIS CRAB IN BARRELL MENTALITY WHY WOMEN STAY OPPRESSED IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD. IT ALSO STINKS OF RACISM.


Nailed it, they also HATE this pageant because they don`t get crowns easily but will be in every thread that mentions Miss World. I don`t care for Miss Earth that`s why I don`t post in that thread but hey some people just need something to gripe about.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby Stoichio » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:50 pm

lingintexas wrote:
the critic wrote:
Fany wrote:
Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.


Somalia, a handpicked Canadian national with no BWAP and not one fast track placement gets picked over officially elected winners of their countries with BWAPs and multiple fast track placements.


Y'ALL HAVE BEEN HATING ON SOMALIA AND PUTTING HER DOWN FROM THE COMPETITION WAS ONGOING. PAGEANTS ARE ABOUT STANDING OUT AND GETTING NOTICED AND SHE DID THAT WELL ENOUGH WITH HER STORY IN THE MIND OF THE JUDGES TO EARN A PLACEMENT.
ITS THIS CRAB IN BARRELL MENTALITY WHY WOMEN STAY OPPRESSED IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD. IT ALSO STINKS OF RACISM.


Nailed it, they also HATE this pageant because they don`t get crowns easily but will be in every thread that mentions Miss World. I don`t care for Miss Earth that`s why I don`t post in that thread but hey some people just need something to gripe about.



Out of the blue, here comes the guy whose life is the literal personification of hatred. A low-life toilet cleaner in Texas whose hate is to the core. I won’t even be surprised if he is one of the bashers of Cheslie.

After months of hiding his face from Misso,he comes back to spread hatred again like he always do and will do in hell also. >:)

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The char loves to associate Philippines to everything said here in Misso. His stupidity is overflowing that he ignored the fact that Fany is from Algeria and she knows the authenticity of the girls from her region.

And he sings the same song as Ian Sebastin. Not surprising if they are the same cleaner.

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Postby lingintexas » Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:46 pm

Stoichio wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
the critic wrote:
Fany wrote:
Specialfx wrote:For them to select Somalia goes to show that Miss World is not being judged fairly, Somalia did not even win a head-to-head round WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THE TOP 40? I have a strong feeling this is a pitty placement which they do to all first-timers because she doesn't even speak sensibly her entire vocabulary is nothing but pure platitudes. Pack it up ladies forget Miss World, Miss World is garbage- A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.


Somalia, a handpicked Canadian national with no BWAP and not one fast track placement gets picked over officially elected winners of their countries with BWAPs and multiple fast track placements.


Y'ALL HAVE BEEN HATING ON SOMALIA AND PUTTING HER DOWN FROM THE COMPETITION WAS ONGOING. PAGEANTS ARE ABOUT STANDING OUT AND GETTING NOTICED AND SHE DID THAT WELL ENOUGH WITH HER STORY IN THE MIND OF THE JUDGES TO EARN A PLACEMENT.
ITS THIS CRAB IN BARRELL MENTALITY WHY WOMEN STAY OPPRESSED IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD. IT ALSO STINKS OF RACISM.


Nailed it, they also HATE this pageant because they don`t get crowns easily but will be in every thread that mentions Miss World. I don`t care for Miss Earth that`s why I don`t post in that thread but hey some people just need something to gripe about.



Out of the blue, here comes the guy whose life is the literal personification of hatred. A low-life toilet cleaner in Texas whose hate is to the core. I won’t even be surprised if he is one of the bashers of Cheslie.

After months of hiding his face from Misso,he comes back to spread hatred again like he always do and will do in hell also. >:)

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The char loves to associate Philippines to everything said here in Misso. His stupidity is overflowing that he ignored the fact that Fany is from Algeria and she knows the authenticity of the girls from her region.

And he sings the same song as Ian Sebastin. Not surprising if they are the same cleaner.



princess please you are one of the MOST racist people on this forum, you are a nasty bully but this is the only place you can do shit like that because if you and I were in each other`s presence you wouldn't dare say half the shit you spew on here. You are a worthless vile excuse for a human being that the admins are allowed to rummage through people's social media like the fucking rat you are and post personal information on here. Karma is a motherfucker and you telling me to go clean something oh the irony. I was not hiding bitch I was here just not interacting with your racist basic ass. Such a petty little cunt, I guess the reputation points pay your bills maybe if you concentrate on doing whatever menial task you'd do for a living more than this forum you might be better off financially.
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Re: MISS WORLD TOP 40 BY JAN 21, ONLY TOP 40 GOES TO PR?

Postby riverrobles » Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:43 am

This is off topic but I just have to say this.

Howdy fellow missosologists, hope we can be more civil and not go down the gutter.

I am new here but I observe too much toxicity from the first time I got active this year, would it be good if we just focus on things pageantry. I mean do we really need a moderator or an admin to moderate the tit-for-tat on two opposing sides, let us just have a normal conversation without mudslinging inserted in a post , do not take things personally.

When I see one whole thread dedicated to one single person, can i also say that is a form of bullying or cancel culture just because he or she has a different opinion from most?

Would it be nice if a post or thread will just focus on the things we like,the reason why we are all here, the appreciation of beauty?
Please ask yourselves and reflect, are you now becoming the bully that you so much hate. The bullying and tauntng that antagonized and provoked you before, did it now made you a bully?
Are you now the same person you hate?

I recommend everyone reading to get this book: The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz . Below is the summary and its just as simple as that, follow it and your easily bruised ego will not get hurt and you would use your head before you write and click and of course choose the words that would come out of your mouth. This can also be applied in this era of disinformation, misinformation and falsehoods, its a great book.

What I like about this book is it made me understand why people say things that are vile, the book explains that it is a reflection of their self, their mirror and not yours. Agreement 2 tells us also not to take things personally (NOTHING OTHERS DO IS BECAUSE OF YOU), it focuses on the power of words and how they should be used in the direction of truth and love (not hatred).

This would really help us be more civil here, agreeing and disagreeing with respect. Having a different opinion is normal and expressing it upfront should not be miscontrued as hate, expressing without vitriol, without baggage, without foul words.

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