WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE"





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WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE"

Postby wingsofnightingale » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:21 am

    

A lot of speculation is going on the definition of a "Pageant Powerhouse"

When a country deserved to be addressed as a pageant powerhouse ?

There does not exists an official definition for it though.

Does it depend on the number of crowns ? number of runner ups ? number of special awards ? number of placements ?

Does it depend on the quality of candidates in almost all the leading pageants ?


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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby Izna » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:29 am

I just know that Philippines is not a "Powerhouse" :=p
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby PrinceBakod » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:33 am

1. BY THE NO. OF WINS THEY GATHERED FROM THE INCEPTION TO THE PRESENT (VERTICALLY)
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2. BY THE IMPACT THEY CREATED HORIZONTALLY (TRANS-COMPETITION) IN A GIVEN YEAR OR TWO.
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby steve » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:55 am

I THINK...

1. NATIONAL PAGEANT IS MONITORED BY PAGEANT WORLD (INTERNATIONALLY)
2. WINNER IS CONSIDERED A THREAT BY OTHER COUNTRIES BECAUSE SHE HAS THE COMPLETE PACKAGE (COUNTRY CROWNS 'QUALITY GIRL YEAR AFTER YEAR)
3. WINNER IS ADORED AND HIGHLY REGARDED BY MAJORITYAND BASHED BY MINORITY
4. COUNTRY HAS STRONG AFFILIATION WITH THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE INTERNATIONAL PAGEANT
5. SOLID INTERNATIONAL FAN BASE (MEANS NOT ONLY FROM THE COUNTRY SHE REPRESENTS)
6. STATISTICS WISE, COUNTRY HAD MADE IT TO THE SEMIS NUMEROUSLY
7. THE COUNTRY HAS TWO OR MORE WINNERS

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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby queenbee » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:19 am

I just know that India is not a powerhouse.

No international crown.
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby lesham » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:20 am

I think that a country must:

A. Completed all the Big Four crowns
B. Achieved a back to back winning in any Big Four pageants
C. Consistent placing

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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby Prende » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:21 am

Izna wrote:
I just know that Philippines is not a "Powerhouse" :=p


Subjectivity aside, Philippines is a powerhouse in 2013. Maybe that is your opinion, but the actual figures contradict your statement. Not only did we win in MI, MW, and MS, we have also performed well in various pageants. [-X

However, before and beyond 2013, I cannot really tell if we have been and will still be a powerhouse.
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby beautyhunter » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:35 am

It is simple, citizens from a power house country wont say day and night that they are power house, eg: Venezuela, USA, Peurto Rico, India etc. On contrary if certain citizens of a certain country always brags about being power house and make n number of threads about the same means they are insecure to max and dont have self confidence.
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby wingsofnightingale » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:39 am

beautyhunter wrote:It is simple, citizens from a power house country wont say day and night that they are power house, eg: Venezuela, USA, Peurto Rico, India etc. On contrary if certain citizens of a certain country always brags about being power house and make n number of threads about the same means they are insecure to max and dont have self confidence.



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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby beautyhunter » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:44 am

wingsofnightingale wrote:
beautyhunter wrote:It is simple, citizens from a power house country wont say day and night that they are power house, eg: Venezuela, USA, Peurto Rico, India etc. On contrary if certain citizens of a certain country always brags about being power house and make n number of threads about the same means they are insecure to max and dont have self confidence.



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whom are you pointing at ? >:)


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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby jntkrsh » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:55 am

obv. them. the pinoys.
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby gwen_martinez » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:58 am

wingsofnightingale wrote:
beautyhunter wrote:It is simple, citizens from a power house country wont say day and night that they are power house, eg: Venezuela, USA, Peurto Rico, India etc. On contrary if certain citizens of a certain country always brags about being power house and make n number of threads about the same means they are insecure to max and dont have self confidence.



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whom are you pointing at ? >:)



if THEY have the numbers to brag, why not? =;)) =;)) =;))
we see these CROWNLESS country bragging too haha
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby beautywatchnyc » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:15 am

It can be answered statistically with the most wins a country can show on record. But judging beauty powerhouse is an emotional issue because beauty resides in every country and every race.

What about those countries who have no tradition of winning but are "emerging" in some ways? Can that be a qualifier?

This question can be misconstrued to goad a divisive stand, pitting one country against the other, what else!
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby brent520 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:53 am

The TS is a powerhouse,a powerhouse basher,don't fall to his trap
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby misso_fan » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:12 am

You're sooooo right! :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%))
brent520 wrote:The TS is a powerhouse,a powerhouse basher,don't fall to his trap
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby Prende » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:14 am

misso_fan wrote:You're sooooo right! :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%)) :%))
brent520 wrote:The TS is a powerhouse,a powerhouse basher,don't fall to his trap


Now duly noted. :-*
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby kwanloong » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:26 am

Actually, the TS just wants to say...The Philippines is not a powerhouse! and his minions will do...

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but for the sake of argument, your questions can be all adressed by the number of wins and runner up finishes in both major and minor pageants.

Whether all the pageant expert wannabes of this forum will not agree, but numbers don't lie. Numbers will be numbers! These are FACTS and NOT PRODUCTS of hallucinations, insecurities and prejudices! >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:) >:)
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby wingsofnightingale » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:41 am

kwanloong wrote:Actually, the TS just wants to say...The Philippines is not a powerhouse! and his minions will do...





Stop blaming me if People here do not consider Philippines as Powerhouse. plus its not even the subject of the thread !!! [-X [-X [-X

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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby kwanloong » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:44 am

wingsofnightingale wrote:
kwanloong wrote:Actually, the TS just wants to say...The Philippines is not a powerhouse! and his minions will do...





Stop blaming me if People here do not consider Philippines as Powerhouse. plus its not even the subject of the thread !!! [-X [-X [-X

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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby BeautifulOutlook » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:46 am

A powerhouse country is one whose representative candidates are persistently looked upon as a threat to winning or secure placements at least in the semis in any given pageants.Countries like Venezuela, USA, Brazil, Puerto Rico, Colombia, Australia, Philippines, india, japan, thailand, sweden, south africa, canada, admit it or not, these are the countries that we usually trail on and check their Reps because they sebd high caliber ladies.
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby limpel » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:53 am

The INDIANS are starting it again!
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby MISS_TWIX » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:01 pm

for me:

Rule #1: Consecutive year of placements for 5-10 years or more with runners up and winners. I believe in Miss Universe, this was only achieved by USA, Venezuela (starting 80s), India (90s) and surprisingly Germany in the 50s

In Miss Universe:

USA had 22 years of consecutive placements plus another 18 years with several Winners and Runners up

Venezuela had 21 years of consecutive placements (1983-2003)

And India had 11 years of consecutive placements including 2 crowns


Rule #2: Having winners/runners up/placements in varied pageants every year. You can't really call a country a powerhouse if it's a hit or miss every year.

Example:

Venezuela (2010 MI, 2011 MW, 2012 2nd RU Miss Universe, 2013 Miss Universe & ME)
Mexico (2007 MI, 2008 4th RU Miss Universe, 2009 MI, 2010 Miss Universe)
India (1994 Miss Universe MW, 1995 1st RU Miss Universe, 1996 3rd RU MW, 1997 MW)
Philippines (2010 Miss Universe 4th RU, 2011 1st RU MW/3rd RU Miss Universe, 2012 Miss Universe and ME 1st RU, 2013 MW etc..)

*They might miss a year of placement but the absence wont take long

Rule #3: Their National pageant will be a big buzz for some other pageant analysts and enthusiasts..

Do you see Ines Ligron lurking on BVI national pageant?
Or maybe Osmel Souza showing interest on Miss Turks and Caicos pageant
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby laurasintia » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:05 pm

beautyhunter wrote:It is simple, citizens from a power house country wont say day and night that they are power house, eg: Venezuela, USA, Peurto Rico, India etc. On contrary if certain citizens of a certain country always brags about being power house and make n number of threads about the same means they are insecure to max and dont have self confidence.


WELL SAID!!!!!!
they look really insecure and want recognition from others while we know that their representatives are so ugly..
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everyone know this country ...a country where tranny/animal/insect looking girls can be in top 5 in Miss Universe
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Its funny how they "BEG" other countries to claim them as a powerhouse haha
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby laurasintia » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:10 pm

when they send GODDESS EVERY YEARS!!!!
no matter they place or not coz a "COUNTRY" play dirty in the international pageants
so powerhouse is not always place but we need to see from the girls itself, we can see some undeserving placement due to politics/business and crazy fans vote so it does not count!!
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Its funny how they "BEG" other countries to claim them as a powerhouse haha
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby beautyhunter » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:12 pm

MISS_TWIX wrote:
for me:

Rule #1: Consecutive year of placements for 5-10 years or more with runners up and winners. I believe in Miss Universe, this was only achieved by USA, Venezuela (starting 80s), India (90s) and surprisingly Germany in the 50s

In Miss Universe:

USA had 22 years of consecutive placements plus another 18 years with several Winners and Runners up

Venezuela had 21 years of consecutive placements (1983-2003)

And India had 11 years of consecutive placements including 2 crowns


Rule #2: Having winners/runners up/placements in varied pageants every year. You can't really call a country a powerhouse if it's a hit or miss every year.

Example:

Venezuela (2010 MI, 2011 MW, 2012 2nd RU Miss Universe, 2013 Miss Universe & ME)
Mexico (2007 MI, 2008 4th RU Miss Universe, 2009 MI, 2010 Miss Universe)
India (1994 Miss Universe MW, 1995 1st RU Miss Universe, 1996 3rd RU MW, 1997 MW)
Philippines (2010 Miss Universe 4th RU, 2011 1st RU MW/3rd RU Miss Universe, 2012 Miss Universe and ME 1st RU, 2013 MW etc..)

*They might miss a year of placement but the absence wont take long

Rule #3: Their National pageant will be a big buzz for some other pageant analysts and enthusiasts..

Do you see Ines Ligron lurking on BVI national pageant?
Or maybe Osmel Souza showing interest on Miss Turks and Caicos pageant


Agree with you 100% well written!!
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby tresure » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:17 pm

POWERHOUSE DOESNT COME FROM SOME SELF-PROCLAIMED FANS

PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT NATIONALITIES SHOULD RECOGNIZE THE POWER OF THAT COUNTRY IN BEAUTY PAGEANT

THAT COUNTRY SEND QUALIFIED DELEGATES WHICH CAN MAKE PEOPLE GO "WOW!" INSTEAD OF "WTF, SHE'S DOING THERE?"

THAT COUNTRY CAN PROVIDE EXTRAORDINARY PAGEANT DRESSES INSTEAD OF THE CHEAP ONES.

THAT COUNTRY HAS A VERY GOOD TRACK RECORD IN WINNING MAJOR PAGEANTS, NOBODY REMEMBERS RUNNER UPS

NON-PAGEANT FANS REMEMBER THE COUNTRY NAME. LIKE MY NON-PAGEANT FRIEND SEZ: "THE WINNER IS VENEZUELA? AGAIN?"

I ONLY CAN SEE VENEZUELA AS A POWERHOUSE RIGHT NOW...THEY HAVE MADE MULTIPLY WINNERS IN EACH MAJOR PAGEANT :=p :=p
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby laurasintia » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:24 pm

tresure wrote:POWERHOUSE DOESNT COME FROM SOME SELF-PROCLAIMED FANS


=;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) only themselves who think they are powerhouse hahaha
maybe powerhouse of ugly girls :%)) :%)) :%)) :%))
Its funny how they "BEG" other countries to claim them as a powerhouse haha
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby karissa » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:33 pm

A powerhouse for me is a country who places most of the years and sends worthy girls in pageantry.No necessary have won or not but already placing every year is a winning achievement.
For example Ukraine is a powerhouse,they have not won any Major crowns but they send gorgeous girls to all Big 5 pageants every year. :)>- :-*
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby poorprinz » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:35 pm

laurasintia wrote:
tresure wrote:POWERHOUSE DOESNT COME FROM SOME SELF-PROCLAIMED FANS


=;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) only themselves who think they are powerhouse hahaha
maybe powerhouse of ugly girls :%)) :%)) :%)) :%))


wow, coming from the country of clappers...year by year????FINLAND!!!!
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Re: WHEN A COUNTRY DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED AS A "POWERHOUSE

Postby laurasintia » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:38 pm

poorprinz wrote:
laurasintia wrote:
tresure wrote:POWERHOUSE DOESNT COME FROM SOME SELF-PROCLAIMED FANS


=;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) only themselves who think they are powerhouse hahaha
maybe powerhouse of ugly girls :%)) :%)) :%)) :%))


wow, coming from the country of clappers...year by year????FINLAND!!!!


dont forget first Miss Universe is from FInland :-* :-* :-* :-*
Its funny how they "BEG" other countries to claim them as a powerhouse haha
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