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Postby The Alchemist » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:51 pm

    

Eternalsunshine wrote:Oxana is still the true goddess of beauty to me. She is just so natural and the other two you placed had already operations.

Miriam is the only Philipina woman who (in my opinion) really deserved to be in the top 5!
There are other which you didnt mention, who could EASILY be in the top 10 but never could reach any placement. In fact every year I remember that there are 2 very very beautiful girls who are favorite and who even dont get a place in a top 15. For whatever reason!?!!


I strongly disagree with your opinion! Gloria and Margie deserved to win...

Venus, Shamcey, and Janine were clear standouts/top 5 material on pageant night. They were AT THEIR BEST!



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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby The Alchemist » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:54 pm

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I disagree with you. Some of the girls who becomes semi-finalists are really deserving. When it comes to winning, blame it on the judges fcuked up taste in beauty.


yES some of them were clearly deserving like Kurara Chibana and many Aussie girls but you cannot dismiss the fact that politicial and business circumstances were on their favor and I can say the same thing for Venus Janine Shamcey and Ara

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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Islander1 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:01 pm

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I disagree with you. Some of the girls who becomes semi-finalists are really deserving. When it comes to winning, blame it on the judges fcuked up taste in beauty.


yES some of them were clearly deserving like Kurara Chibana and many Aussie girls but you cannot dismiss the fact that politicial and business circumstances were on their favor and I can say the same thing for Venus Janine Shamcey and Ara



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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby laurasintia » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:13 pm

Its the "SASH" not the "GIRL"
its philippines , they just always placed because of their sash (business, politic, etc) not because of their own merit. poor them!
Its funny how they "BEG" other countries to claim them as a powerhouse haha
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby laurasintia » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:13 pm

Its the "SASH" not the "GIRL"
its philippines , they just always placed because of their sash (business, politic, etc) not because of their own merit. poor them!
Its funny how they "BEG" other countries to claim them as a powerhouse haha
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Learnel » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:05 pm

laurasintia wrote:Its the "SASH" not the "GIRL"
its philippines , they just always placed because of their sash (business, politic, etc) not because of their own merit. poor them!


Poor you who keep on whinning =;)) =;)) =;))
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Jake.Horan » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:12 pm

1. Well, let's not discount the fact that some girls ARE equally deserving of their placements albeit the alleged under-the-table dealings. For example, if you told me that Renae Ayris' 3rd RU placement in '12 was because of Kooey and Australian Gold, I wouldn't have minded one bit.

2. "Sash f@ctor" has been existent even prior to the MU-Trump dispensation in the likes of USA (1954, 1956, 1960, 1967, 1980, 1995), Venezuela (1979, 1981, 1986, 1996*) and Puerto Rico (1970, 1985, 1993). I think it still means the same today, people just have different ways of interpreting it.

3. Evolving trends in society, media, and viewership call for different strategies to be employed by MUO. Obviously 1991 is not the same as 2011, the most significant difference being social media. So I say that it's almost inevitable that MUO, as a business organisation (more so being a Trump business organisation), be inclined to do what it's currently doing. And if MUO won't act on the business-side of things, Miss Universe will not be the Miss Universe as we see it now.

4. I agree that some of the semi-finalists are handpicked, then it's battle royale from then on, although not entirely. In all fairness to them, I don't think I've seen a WTF placement in the final 5. (Yes, I think the Philippines deserved their placements from '10-'13). I may not have agreed with who's crowned, but generally speaking, I find it favourable.

5.Wenches who I think clawed their way in with no "sash factor" or politics: Leila Lopes, Venus Raj, and Rozanna Purcell of late.
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby The Alchemist » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:05 am

laurasintia wrote:Its the "SASH" not the "GIRL"
its philippines , they just always placed because of their sash (business, politic, etc) not because of their own merit. poor them!


Nope they deserved such honor! As with doubts...we can certainly doubt many girls who placed from Japan, and Latin Girls who were highly favored
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby The Alchemist » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:07 am

Very well said Jake....you make so much sense in this reply...definitely worth reading

Jake.Horan wrote:1. Well, let's not discount the fact that some girls ARE equally deserving of their placements albeit the alleged under-the-table dealings. For example, if you told me that Renae Ayris' 3rd RU placement in '12 was because of Kooey and Australian Gold, I wouldn't have minded one bit.

2. "Sash f@ctor" has been existent even prior to the MU-Trump dispensation in the likes of USA (1954, 1956, 1960, 1967, 1980, 1995), Venezuela (1979, 1981, 1986, 1996*) and Puerto Rico (1970, 1985, 1993). I think it still means the same today, people just have different ways of interpreting it.

3. Evolving trends in society, media, and viewership call for different strategies to be employed by MUO. Obviously 1991 is not the same as 2011, the most significant difference being social media. So I say that it's almost inevitable that MUO, as a business organisation (more so being a Trump business organisation), be inclined to do what it's currently doing. And if MUO won't act on the business-side of things, Miss Universe will not be the Miss Universe as we see it now.

4. I agree that some of the semi-finalists are handpicked, then it's battle royale from then on, although not entirely. In all fairness to them, I don't think I've seen a WTF placement in the final 5. (Yes, I think the Philippines deserved their placements from '10-'13). I may not have agreed with who's crowned, but generally speaking, I find it favourable.

5.Wenches who I think clawed their way in with no "sash" or politics: Leila Lopes, Venus Raj, and Rozanna Purcell of late.
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby laurasintia » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:31 am

Learnel wrote:
laurasintia wrote:Its the "SASH" not the "GIRL"
its philippines , they just always placed because of their sash (business, politic, etc) not because of their own merit. poor them!


Poor you who keep on whinning =;)) =;)) =;))


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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby laurasintia » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:32 am

beautywanderlust wrote:
laurasintia wrote:Its the "SASH" not the "GIRL"
its philippines , they just always placed because of their sash (business, politic, etc) not because of their own merit. poor them!


Nope they deserved such honor! As with doubts...we can certainly doubt many girls who placed from Japan, and Latin Girls who were highly favored


bitch pleaseee ara over my girl paulina, france, GB, ukraine etc??? you must be kidding me =;)) =;)) =;))
that tranny looking girl placed because of her sash !!!
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Jake.Horan » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:56 am

beautywanderlust wrote:Very well said Jake....you make so much sense in this reply...definitely worth reading


When smart people here in Misso come out and create sensible discussions, I join in. Intelligent threads like what you have here call for rational, mature feedback.
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby rio88 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:39 am

If you are in our (Malaysian) position, then you will know it's the SASH' not the GIRL. I always believe our girls at least deserved the top 15 placement in 2011 and 2012. Just saying. :)>- :)>- :)>- :)>- :)>- :)>- :)>-
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Colonel Sanders » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:02 pm

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With or without the sash, they still win The Crown!

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Oxana YES! But not the other two. Russia has no powerful sash at that time. But for Puerto Rico and Venezuela, you can never take out the sash from them and the influence that those sashes brought for them to place. Had Zuleyka been wearing , let's say a Nicaragua Sash and Dayan wearing the Honduras sash. The likelihood of them getting the crown is not as high. Take the case of Deborah Henry, she had everything going on for her except the SAsh.



But they are the clear winner through the final night!
Zuleyka's perfomed well in swimsuit & her iconic gown while Dayana gave the strong answer...
Deborah Henry perfomance in Preliminary wasn't strong. :)>-
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Kambajina » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:39 pm

leila lopes, zuleyka just the girls :7
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Adam324 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:26 pm

laurasintia wrote:Its the "SASH" not the "GIRL"
its philippines , they just always placed because of their sash (business, politic, etc) not because of their own merit. poor them!





You just whine..and never had a good thing to say.. [-X :-@ Poor you that you're just blinded by hate & that you choose to ignore the PH rep's performances every year.. @-) [-X Speaking of merits..Well, Filipina beauties trains real hard!They perfect their catwalk skills & presentation..Moreover, Confidence is one of the keys in winning or placing..Filipina beauties got it! :=p <:-P



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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby The Alchemist » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:56 am

I specially agree with Deborah Henry

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If you are in our (Malaysian) position, then you will know it's the SASH' not the GIRL. I always believe our girls at least deserved the top 15 placement in 2011 and 2012. Just saying. :)>- :)>- :)>- :)>- :)>- :)>- :)>-
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby bloomfield » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:01 am

ON SECOND THOUGHT, MAYBE THE PINOYS DO DESERVE TO HOST MISS UNIVERSE AGAIN.

AFTER ALL, THEY ARE ONLY A BUNCH OF LOSERS WITH NOTHING GOING ON FOR THEM, EXCEPT FOR MOPPING AND WASHING (THINK VENUS RAJ AND HER GLAMOROUS LAUNDRY).

IF THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT IS ABLE TO BRING A TINY SPECK OF GLAMOUR AND GLORY INTO THEIR GOSH-FORSAKEN SLUMS AND SQUATTERS, THEN THE WORK IS DONE.

WE SHOULD ALL TRY TO PITY THOSE POOR BASTARDS AND GRANT THEM THE CHANCE TO WITNESS BEAUTY AND GLAMOUR WHICH THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.[/size][/quote]

YOUR POST denotes how bitter you are. The stench, the odorous fluid coming out from your cavity-filled oral orifice is as dirty as yourself. Do you think DONALD TRUMP, the owner of MUO will fly to Manila just to visit the area of the on-going THE TRUMP project ?? Before you post any hatred, bitterness, and satanic verses in this thread, LOOK AROUND and verify where SLUMS are found aside from the Philippines. Have you seen the SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE ?? Have you been to the ghettos in the US ?? So STFU !!!! You know nothing !!!! All you know is to spread negative posts just to pull down a country !!!! You're nothing but a CUTICLE -filled moron pretending somebody big time ......... SHEYT and SNAP !!!!!!!
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Rebecca Black » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:39 am

Another example of a great thread ruined by assholes.
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby The Alchemist » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:54 am

Catfight on my thread from months ago!
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby PrinceBakod » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:03 am

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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Pacifico » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:42 pm

in addition to Johanna Solano, mine would also be:
Jennifer Hawkins, Australia 2004
Honey Lee, Korea 2007
Constanza Baez, Ecuador 2013
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby The Alchemist » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:20 am

Agree 100% on the 3 girls. I will make a thread for them

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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby RatedX » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:19 am

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How can Donald Trump want to host in Manila i don't think it's happening that'll be a monkey manifest all the "ITS" screaming like they're dieying for the crown. I think that nobody will be watching that night only the Filipinos themselves. This pageant was hosted 20 years ago in the Philippines and India shit on Philippines by winning. These days the pinoys are uncontrollable it's terrible Miss Universe should be hosted in a decent country not a pig kennel.

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ON SECOND THOUGHT, MAYBE THE PINOYS DO DESERVE TO HOST MISS UNIVERSE AGAIN.

AFTER ALL, THEY ARE ONLY A BUNCH OF LOSERS WITH NOTHING GOING ON FOR THEM, EXCEPT FOR MOPPING AND WASHING (THINK VENUS RAJ AND HER GLAMOROUS LAUNDRY).

IF THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT IS ABLE TO BRING A TINY SPECK OF GLAMOUR AND GLORY INTO THEIR GOSH-FORSAKEN SLUMS AND SQUATTERS, THEN THE WORK IS DONE.

WE SHOULD ALL TRY TO PITY THOSE POOR BASTARDS AND GRANT THEM THE CHANCE TO WITNESS BEAUTY AND GLAMOUR WHICH THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.


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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Zinnia » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:25 am

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I disagree with you. Some of the girls who becomes semi-finalists are really deserving. When it comes to winning, blame it on the judges fcuked up taste in beauty.




Agree! Most judges that MUO picked are big personalities who doesn't care about pageants! They will just woke up one morning receiving an e-mail or call from MUO inviting them to be one of the judges of Miss Universe! Majority of them are not aware of the girls!! I guess they dont even watch pre-pageant... Since pre-pageant judges are also different people from the judges during the coronation night. what they're gona do is only judge the girl on the actual event. they don't even know whos the favorite or not all this time and they never browse pageant forums! most of them only rely to the fans at the stage whos candidate has a loudest cheer! (w/c are advantage of Venezuela, Puerto Rico, USA, Philippines and Mexico) and yes girls from those countries don't only rely to loud cheers.. because they are competitive too with or w/o those loud cheers! >:)

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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby The Alchemist » Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:09 am

Couldn't Agree More

RatedX wrote:
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The Glamorous wrote:
How can Donald Trump want to host in Manila i don't think it's happening that'll be a monkey manifest all the "ITS" screaming like they're dieying for the crown. I think that nobody will be watching that night only the Filipinos themselves. This pageant was hosted 20 years ago in the Philippines and India shit on Philippines by winning. These days the pinoys are uncontrollable it's terrible Miss Universe should be hosted in a decent country not a pig kennel.

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ON SECOND THOUGHT, MAYBE THE PINOYS DO DESERVE TO HOST MISS UNIVERSE AGAIN.

AFTER ALL, THEY ARE ONLY A BUNCH OF LOSERS WITH NOTHING GOING ON FOR THEM, EXCEPT FOR MOPPING AND WASHING (THINK VENUS RAJ AND HER GLAMOROUS LAUNDRY).

IF THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT IS ABLE TO BRING A TINY SPECK OF GLAMOUR AND GLORY INTO THEIR GOSH-FORSAKEN SLUMS AND SQUATTERS, THEN THE WORK IS DONE.

WE SHOULD ALL TRY TO PITY THOSE POOR BASTARDS AND GRANT THEM THE CHANCE TO WITNESS BEAUTY AND GLAMOUR WHICH THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.


The dialogue of two morons. =;))
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Re: It's The Girl, Not The Sash

Postby Pacifico » Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:07 am

beautywanderlust wrote:Agree 100% on the 3 girls. I will make a thread for them

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in addition to Johanna Solano, mine would also be:
Jennifer Hawkins, Australia 2004
Honey Lee, Korea 2007
Constanza Baez, Ecuador 2013


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