Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens?





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Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens?

Postby poker_man » Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:23 pm

    

Why is it that her career failed to take off despite being tagged as the "Best Miss Universe Ever" or "The Alpha Female" in pageantry?

Pia Wurtzbach still has tons of endorsements up to now. Non-winners like Ariella Arida, Maxine Medina and MJ Lastimosa and even her own batchmate, runner-up Samantha Bernardo are way more popular in Philippine showbiz today.

What happened to the huge hype?


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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby manoypoe » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:06 pm

poker_man wrote:Why is it that her career failed to take off despite being tagged as the "Best Miss Universe Ever" or "The Alpha Female" in pageantry?

Pia Wurtzbach still has tons of endorsements up to now. Non-winners like Ariella Arida, Maxine Medina and MJ Lastimosa and even her own batchmate, runner-up Samantha Bernardo are way more popular in Philippine showbiz today.

What happened to the huge hype?


Laos na agad? Starlets pa rin naman ang mga sinabi pagdating sa showbiz. They are not famous in showbiz. Hindi pang showbiz ang hatak ni Catriona sa tingin ko. She can't be a movie star in the Philippines. A host yes. :-* :-*
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby lingintexas » Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:13 pm

poker_man wrote:Why is it that her career failed to take off despite being tagged as the "Best Miss Universe Ever" or "The Alpha Female" in pageantry?

Pia Wurtzbach still has tons of endorsements up to now. Non-winners like Ariella Arida, Maxine Medina and MJ Lastimosa and even her own batchmate, runner-up Samantha Bernardo are way more popular in Philippine showbiz today.

What happened to the huge hype?


Beacuse those labels were bestowed upon her by her fellow countrymen. She is in the top five of all time Miss Universes but the best mehhh she barely did anything during her stint in the USA
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Postby ambasing » Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:18 pm

Haters of Catriona are the real LOSERS :%)) :%)) :%))
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby zidanetribal » Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:42 pm

I'm not a Catriona defender here but recent events in South Africa will shed some light on what is happening with Catriona. (My first post after years of just observing the forum)

If you are really observant, you should've known that prior to Cat's arrival in South Africa, she was in Kenya for humanitarian activities including Operation Smile Train.
And we all know that Operation Smile Train is one of the activities of Miss Universe. Aren't you even wondering why she was still involved in that activity 3 years after her reign? While scrolling on IG I see from time to time her modeling gigs, appearances, and hosting activities. She even had to leave South Africa way ahead of the others due to other commitments hence she was not included in the spur of the moment photoshoot where they all wear white.

Based on what I've observed, Catriona is still very much relevant and active in gigs that are normally not covered by mainstream media. Remember that Pia revealed in an interview that there are a lot of activities of a Miss Universe that are not covered by media because she was also questioned by toxic pageant fans on why she was not that visible as a Miss Universe during her reign. Instead of questioning, we should be glad that Catriona is still very much involved even after her reign. And no doubt her advocacies for the children of Tondo and Love Yourself are still very much alive.

I believe this is the sentiment of other pageant fans that claim that Catriona is really the Miss World type of beauty queen.

Just because the other beauty queens are visible in mainstream media and social media platforms does not translate to success. Why don't you take time and research those beauty queens, local and international, and look at how they are doing. Some may prove your point but some may prove mine.

A beauty queen's success does not rely on how well she is doing in show business, but on being successful in what and where she is good at.
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby manoypoe » Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:48 pm

zidanetribal wrote:I'm not a Catriona defender here but recent events in South Africa will shed some light on what is happening with Catriona. (My first post after years of just observing the forum)

If you are really observant, you should've known that prior to Cat's arrival in South Africa, she was in Kenya for humanitarian activities including Operation Smile Train.
And we all know that Operation Smile Train is one of the activities of Miss Universe. Aren't you even wondering why she was still involved in that activity 3 years after her reign? While scrolling on IG I see from time to time her modeling gigs, appearances, and hosting activities. She even had to leave South Africa way ahead of the others due to other commitments hence she was not included in the spur of the moment photoshoot where they all wear white.

Based on what I've observed, Catriona is still very much relevant and active in gigs that are normally not covered by mainstream media. Remember that Pia revealed in an interview that there are a lot of activities of a Miss Universe that are not covered by media because she was also questioned by toxic pageant fans on why she was not that visible as a Miss Universe during her reign. Instead of questioning, we should be glad that Catriona is still very much involved even after her reign. And no doubt her advocacies for the children of Tondo and Love Yourself are still very much alive.

I believe this is the sentiment of other pageant fans that claim that Catriona is really the Miss World type of beauty queen.

Just because the other beauty queens are visible in mainstream media and social media platforms does not translate to success. Why don't you take time and research those beauty queens, local and international, and look at how they are doing. Some may prove your point but some may prove mine.

A beauty queen's success does not rely on how well she is doing in show business, but on being successful in what and where she is good at.


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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ajsy0203 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:57 pm

Supermodel Me stint, Music projects, Charity works, etc. Is this called "failing" mark in showbiz?

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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ajsy0203 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:59 pm

poker_man wrote:Why is it that her career failed to take off despite being tagged as the "Best Miss Universe Ever" or "The Alpha Female" in pageantry?

Pia Wurtzbach still has tons of endorsements up to now. Non-winners like Ariella Arida, Maxine Medina and MJ Lastimosa and even her own batchmate, runner-up Samantha Bernardo are way more popular in Philippine showbiz today.

What happened to the huge hype?


If you are comparing Gal Gadot to Jennifer Hawkins or Priyanka Chopra to Lara Dutta?
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby frog_princess » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:15 am

Since you made an effort making this thread and I have some vacant time, I will share my thoughts on this.

How would one define someone as "laos" and "successful"? What are our standards?

I believe that we have different definitions of those terms depending on the kind of life that we want to live. Other queens prefer to be in showbiz (be in the limelight, earn money, etc.), while others prefer a quiet life after pageantry (a happy family life, successful business/career; are they less successful than those in showbiz?).

Just because someone is not visible on mainstream media, doesn't mean she's not doing anything.

Catriona is still one of the most memorable Miss Universe queens ever. Her successful Miss Universe journey is unparalleled so far, and her victory is unquestionable, even when standing side by side with a formidable competitor.

She is now an endorser, a singer with a newly released song, a model, host, and influencer. She even travels with her own team. How can you call that laos?

Most importantly, I adore that she is true to her cause even after her reign. One that I do not see other queens are doing. She still champions education for less-fortunate children, participates in Smile Train activities, and highlights Philippine culture wherever she goes. That is an amazing feat!
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:38 am

Miss Universe 1973 Margie Moran chose to do hotel business & arts and culture advocate over acting career in showbiz.
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:22 am

Supermodel Me already aired their first 2 episodes at iQiYi
https://www.iq.com/album/supermodelme-r ... rmrs=title

Queen Cat will appear in the future episode/s of the show.
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:02 am

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Pia Wurtzbach still has tons of endorsements up to now. Non-winners like Ariella Arida, Maxine Medina and MJ Lastimosa and even her own batchmate, runner-up Samantha Bernardo are way more popular in Philippine showbiz today.

What happened to the huge hype?
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby beautywatchnyc » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:13 am


I'd like to ask the coalition of the accusers above:- did you bother to ask Catriona personally what her own choices are, which specific activities to dedicate her time with and closely follow? Catriona can't be in two places physically at the same time, bear that in mind. Her career choice or source of bread and butter is not for you to decide. You only listened to what your little calcified mind dictates and that is where your slips start to show.
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ~Kokak Jolie Middleton~ » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:49 am

Parang hindi naman .

Si Zozibini ang pinaka kawawa .
Nasalanta yung buong reign nya ng bonggang bongga because of the pandemic .
Hindi sya nakapag travel .

At eto naman si Andrea Meza eh nabansot yung reign nya at eto nga may kokoronahan ng bago this December .

Lahat naman na pandemic .

Hindi konga naramdaman ang presensha ng mga beauty queens .
Ang pinaka bongga na eh yung 2021 Miss South Africa pageant.
Miss International natigbak.
Miss World wala din .
Yung pakontes ni Angkol ewan .
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Postby ~Kokak Jolie Middleton~ » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:01 am

Dapat sabitan ng medalya yang sina Pia at Catriona .
Hataw kung hataw kahit may pandemia at kahit sa South Africa payan .
At shempre pa ...
Daladala nila ang bandera ng Pilipinas .
Bongga .
Kasi diba ... the whole world is watching dyan sa 2021 Miss South Africa pageant na yan .
What I’m saying is that ... mas importante ang world stage kesa sa so called Philippine career nya .
Who’s who ? Kung sino ba talaga ang may K to be invited dyan sa South Africa.
And they didn’t disappoint.
Nag sabog sila ng ganda kahit may pandemia.

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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby Stoichio » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:12 am



CAT is even busier than the current Miss Universe and Miss World combined.
And in the last 12 months: she has traveled to more countries than any of Andrea or peasant Toni.

Since the last 12 months, Cat traveled to Colombia, Mauritius, Kenya, South Africa and some more visits in other African countries. (does not include her vacation in Australia).


But yeah, PIA too is even busier than any of them.


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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby Stoichio » Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:26 am

lingintexas wrote:
poker_man wrote:Why is it that her career failed to take off despite being tagged as the "Best Miss Universe Ever" or "The Alpha Female" in pageantry?

Pia Wurtzbach still has tons of endorsements up to now. Non-winners like Ariella Arida, Maxine Medina and MJ Lastimosa and even her own batchmate, runner-up Samantha Bernardo are way more popular in Philippine showbiz today.

What happened to the huge hype?


Beacuse those labels were bestowed upon her by her fellow countrymen. She is in the top five of all time Miss Universes but the best mehhh she barely did anything during her stint in the USA



It’s funny how the SUCCESS of Filipinas in pageantry is slowly torturing to death a black gayman from Tobago who scatters his stupidity in every single thread about Philippines in Misso.

Go back to work Tobago gayman. You still have 13 toilets to clean in Texas! :-j


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Postby mybadname » Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:57 am

Catriona laos? What! Are you kidding me? Cat has even more gigs and works compared to Pia who keeps on travelling with her bf. Thats ok because thats her life and she loves it. But Cat? I must die laughing on this April Fool's Day in October! Get a life. You might be bored.
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:12 am

I still remember when Cat's reign was being bashed because lack of international travels but she earned more money than the 2018 queens combined because of her endorsements. But she is still more active after her reign even during the pandemic.
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:13 am

Stoichio wrote:

CAT is even busier than the current Miss Universe and Miss World combined.
And in the last 12 months: she has traveled to more countries than any of Andrea or peasant Toni.

Since the last 12 months, Cat traveled to Colombia, Mauritius, Kenya, South Africa and some more visits in other African countries. (does not include her vacation in Australia).


But yeah, PIA too is even busier than any of them.




You can add Singapore in the list because she will be appearing on SupermodelMe in the future episode/s.
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby Geeyourhair » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:17 pm

I will be channeling an asjy here...

Bakit ba laging sukatan ang showbiz pagdating sa after success ng isang beauty queen sa Pinas? Kailangan ba talagang pag title holder ka (national of international) dapat magiging sikat ka na artista pagkatapos ng iyong reign? Kung ganon, stepping stone lang ba ng mga gustong mag-artista ang pagiging beauty queen? Ang pagiging artista ba ang pinaka importanteng karera sa buong Pilipinas? Ganon ba talaga ka big deal ang pagiging showbiz personality sa Pinas?

La lang, nagtatanong lang din.
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Postby KMAIr » Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:54 pm

Gisang gisa ang TS. =;))
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:47 pm

Geeyourhair wrote:I will be channeling an asjy here...

Bakit ba laging sukatan ang showbiz pagdating sa after success ng isang beauty queen sa Pinas? Kailangan ba talagang pag title holder ka (national of international) dapat magiging sikat ka na artista pagkatapos ng iyong reign? Kung ganon, stepping stone lang ba ng mga gustong mag-artista ang pagiging beauty queen? Ang pagiging artista ba ang pinaka importanteng karera sa buong Pilipinas? Ganon ba talaga ka big deal ang pagiging showbiz personality sa Pinas?

La lang, nagtatanong lang din.


Maybe TS is thinking that Bb. Pilipinas or MUP is like Miss Hong Kong that is you win the national title or just being a finalist you can enter in the world of showbiz right away but it is not, in most recent editions due to intense training from the different pageant camps in order to prepare for the international competition.
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby kurtij » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:36 am

I don't think she is aspiring for popularity in Philippine Showbusiness.

We know she has done alot of work but she likes keeping them lowkey.

Remember when Vice asked her that question about suddenly having a million dollar bucks, what she'd gonna do with it.

Ang sagot niya, she doesn't need that money as she is already happy and contented.
Means, she does not need to prove anything anymore or work even harder.

Hey! We have our 4th Miss Universe crown thru her! Her talent fee might even be higher than those who you are comparing her to.
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby Mariana Erwin » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:10 am

To be honest, I don't want to respond to this thread, but I will, given that this point has to be raised.

I know that you are trying to assess the queens critically (and you even dislike some of the queens as a result, including the Miss Universe Philippines organizers themselves) but here's one thing I would like to say about this thread. First of all, Catriona is not becoming more unpopular. It's just that she is making sure that nothing of her popularity is over-blown and that everything is done in the most ethical ways possible. Not all beauty queens - especially those in the Philippines - need to hop on to acting or singing just to remain popular. Pia was, and is, an actress, and she was already famous in the Philippines before she even decided to join the Miss Universe circuit and win it (she even used the name ''Pia Romero'' for this).

The girls do not need to act, sing, or even host just to remain popular. For being an activist-queen (obviously stemming from the fact that she wanted to win Miss World in the first place), she is already popular for the advocacies she is maintaining. And Ara and Maxine entered the field of acting (which is honestly weird), and on MJ, she is still the same as she is now, although albeit improved. The kind of popularity that you want to have for Catriona is something that might not even benefit her in the long run.
No more bashers in 2022, please.

Also, watch Dani Walker's video to know more on how bashers can kill with their words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbYUDqSC1UM
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby Mariana Erwin » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:12 am

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Geeyourhair wrote:I will be channeling an asjy here...

Bakit ba laging sukatan ang showbiz pagdating sa after success ng isang beauty queen sa Pinas? Kailangan ba talagang pag title holder ka (national of international) dapat magiging sikat ka na artista pagkatapos ng iyong reign? Kung ganon, stepping stone lang ba ng mga gustong mag-artista ang pagiging beauty queen? Ang pagiging artista ba ang pinaka importanteng karera sa buong Pilipinas? Ganon ba talaga ka big deal ang pagiging showbiz personality sa Pinas?

La lang, nagtatanong lang din.


Maybe TS is thinking that Bb. Pilipinas or MUP is like Miss Hong Kong that is you win the national title or just being a finalist you can enter in the world of showbiz right away but it is not, in most recent editions due to intense training from the different pageant camps in order to prepare for the international competition.
And now, Miss Hong Kong doesn't even have the Miss World franchise anymore, and there were times that the winner of that pageant wasn't even sent due to literally anything. One example is in 2011 in which the winner of the 2011 pageant wanted to go to acting so her first runner-up went to Miss World instead. The thread starter needs to understand that these pageants aren't automatic spots for the showbiz industry and there are winners that choose to do their own advocacies even if it means that they aren't as famous as the other winners. Plus, given the problems of fame, these winners' choices should be respected given that in some cases, their personal life is already being invaded in a bad way.
No more bashers in 2022, please.

Also, watch Dani Walker's video to know more on how bashers can kill with their words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbYUDqSC1UM
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:28 am

Mariana Erwin wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:
Geeyourhair wrote:I will be channeling an asjy here...

Bakit ba laging sukatan ang showbiz pagdating sa after success ng isang beauty queen sa Pinas? Kailangan ba talagang pag title holder ka (national of international) dapat magiging sikat ka na artista pagkatapos ng iyong reign? Kung ganon, stepping stone lang ba ng mga gustong mag-artista ang pagiging beauty queen? Ang pagiging artista ba ang pinaka importanteng karera sa buong Pilipinas? Ganon ba talaga ka big deal ang pagiging showbiz personality sa Pinas?

La lang, nagtatanong lang din.


Maybe TS is thinking that Bb. Pilipinas or MUP is like Miss Hong Kong that is you win the national title or just being a finalist you can enter in the world of showbiz right away but it is not, in most recent editions due to intense training from the different pageant camps in order to prepare for the international competition.
And now, Miss Hong Kong doesn't even have the Miss World franchise anymore, and there were times that the winner of that pageant wasn't even sent due to literally anything. One example is in 2011 in which the winner of the 2011 pageant wanted to go to acting so her first runner-up went to Miss World instead. The thread starter needs to understand that these pageants aren't automatic spots for the showbiz industry and there are winners that choose to do their own advocacies even if it means that they aren't as famous as the other winners. Plus, given the problems of fame, these winners' choices should be respected given that in some cases, their personal life is already being invaded in a bad way.


Miss Hong Kong 2011 Rebecca Zhu declined to compete at Miss World twice because she was very secured as an actress which is she still active rather than become an international beauty queen despite MWO forced almost all the national directors to send the winner not the runner-up in their national pageant (at that time until possibly changed recently due to an legal issue in 2018 surrounding MVO & Miss Venezuela World 2017-18).
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby Mariana Erwin » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:35 am

ajsy0203 wrote:
Mariana Erwin wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:
Geeyourhair wrote:I will be channeling an asjy here...

Bakit ba laging sukatan ang showbiz pagdating sa after success ng isang beauty queen sa Pinas? Kailangan ba talagang pag title holder ka (national of international) dapat magiging sikat ka na artista pagkatapos ng iyong reign? Kung ganon, stepping stone lang ba ng mga gustong mag-artista ang pagiging beauty queen? Ang pagiging artista ba ang pinaka importanteng karera sa buong Pilipinas? Ganon ba talaga ka big deal ang pagiging showbiz personality sa Pinas?

La lang, nagtatanong lang din.


Maybe TS is thinking that Bb. Pilipinas or MUP is like Miss Hong Kong that is you win the national title or just being a finalist you can enter in the world of showbiz right away but it is not, in most recent editions due to intense training from the different pageant camps in order to prepare for the international competition.
And now, Miss Hong Kong doesn't even have the Miss World franchise anymore, and there were times that the winner of that pageant wasn't even sent due to literally anything. One example is in 2011 in which the winner of the 2011 pageant wanted to go to acting so her first runner-up went to Miss World instead. The thread starter needs to understand that these pageants aren't automatic spots for the showbiz industry and there are winners that choose to do their own advocacies even if it means that they aren't as famous as the other winners. Plus, given the problems of fame, these winners' choices should be respected given that in some cases, their personal life is already being invaded in a bad way.


Miss Hong Kong 2011 Rebecca Zhu declined to compete at Miss World twice because she was very secured as an actress which is she still active rather than become an international beauty queen despite MWO forced almost all the national directors to send the winner not the runner-up in their national pageant (at that time until possibly changed recently due to an legal issue in 2018 surrounding MVO & Miss Venezuela World 2017-18).
Yup, which I was just talking about. What Julia expects for these qualifier pageants is that they send the winner to Miss World occasionally. Unfortunately, the Miss Hong Kong pageant has been failing to do that in its most recent years (the last time that the Miss Hong Kong organizers even sent a contestant was 2017, and that was just the second runner-up).

I hope that the thread starter realizes that popularity doesn't just mean her being an actress or a singer (although Catriona is a singer and song-writer), but at the same time, it also means that your advocacies are also being showcased around the world, especially for their relevancy and the ways that these advocacies address the issue of people dealing with problems, such as children and people in poverty. Plus, it is much better if these works are kept lowkey given that over-showing them is a problem as well.
No more bashers in 2022, please.

Also, watch Dani Walker's video to know more on how bashers can kill with their words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbYUDqSC1UM
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Re: Bakit nalaos si Catriona compared to other beauty queens

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:55 am

Mariana Erwin wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:
Mariana Erwin wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:
Geeyourhair wrote:I will be channeling an asjy here...

Bakit ba laging sukatan ang showbiz pagdating sa after success ng isang beauty queen sa Pinas? Kailangan ba talagang pag title holder ka (national of international) dapat magiging sikat ka na artista pagkatapos ng iyong reign? Kung ganon, stepping stone lang ba ng mga gustong mag-artista ang pagiging beauty queen? Ang pagiging artista ba ang pinaka importanteng karera sa buong Pilipinas? Ganon ba talaga ka big deal ang pagiging showbiz personality sa Pinas?

La lang, nagtatanong lang din.


Maybe TS is thinking that Bb. Pilipinas or MUP is like Miss Hong Kong that is you win the national title or just being a finalist you can enter in the world of showbiz right away but it is not, in most recent editions due to intense training from the different pageant camps in order to prepare for the international competition.
And now, Miss Hong Kong doesn't even have the Miss World franchise anymore, and there were times that the winner of that pageant wasn't even sent due to literally anything. One example is in 2011 in which the winner of the 2011 pageant wanted to go to acting so her first runner-up went to Miss World instead. The thread starter needs to understand that these pageants aren't automatic spots for the showbiz industry and there are winners that choose to do their own advocacies even if it means that they aren't as famous as the other winners. Plus, given the problems of fame, these winners' choices should be respected given that in some cases, their personal life is already being invaded in a bad way.


Miss Hong Kong 2011 Rebecca Zhu declined to compete at Miss World twice because she was very secured as an actress which is she still active rather than become an international beauty queen despite MWO forced almost all the national directors to send the winner not the runner-up in their national pageant (at that time until possibly changed recently due to an legal issue in 2018 surrounding MVO & Miss Venezuela World 2017-18).
Yup, which I was just talking about. What Julia expects for these qualifier pageants is that they send the winner to Miss World occasionally. Unfortunately, the Miss Hong Kong pageant has been failing to do that in its most recent years (the last time that the Miss Hong Kong organizers even sent a contestant was 2017, and that was just the second runner-up).

I hope that the thread starter realizes that popularity doesn't just mean her being an actress or a singer (although Catriona is a singer and song-writer), but at the same time, it also means that your advocacies are also being showcased around the world, especially for their relevancy and the ways that these advocacies address the issue of people dealing with problems, such as children and people in poverty. Plus, it is much better if these works are kept lowkey given that over-showing them is a problem as well.


The Venezuela case in 2018 benefited Miss France 2019 Vaimalama Chaves not to compete at Miss World, instead she chose not compete in any international competitions?
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