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Postby lacrimas_negras » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:31 am

    

Oh don't get me wrong guys, i'm 100% behind I am One team, cause they seem to be taking this whole project very seriously. However, we should keep in mind, that this is their first year as organisers and i am afraid it will take a lot of time for the greek pageantry to gain its lost glory back. That being said, i am not really expecting miracles to happen this year, i can easily see a not so strong batch of girls happening. Greek media are also to blame. The casting for the Star Hellas competition has received literally zero exposure. I doubt that girls who could be interested in this are aware of the fact that a selecting proceedure is running right now...The people of I Am One indeed renew the page on FB by posting updates, but this is not enough and this is definitely not their fault.
To answer to Smile's question, no, Greek women are not eager to join pageants, cause beauty contests in Greece are pretty much dead. They have nothing to gain from them, they cannot use them as a platform to succeed in the fields they wish, so why bother? They prefer to either continue with their studies, or do modelling.


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Postby Smile » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:51 am

lacrimas_negras wrote:Oh don't get me wrong guys, i'm 100% behind I am One team, cause they seem to be taking this whole project very seriously. However, we should keep in mind, that this is their first year as organisers and i am afraid it will take a lot of time for the greek pageantry to gain its lost glory back. That being said, i am not really expecting miracles to happen this year, i can easily see a not so strong batch of girls happening. Greek media are also to blame. The casting for the Star Hellas competition has received literally zero exposure. I doubt that girls who could be interested in this are aware of the fact that a selecting proceedure is running right now...The people of I Am One indeed renew the page on FB by posting updates, but this is not enough and this is definitely not their fault.
To answer to Smile's question, no, Greek women are not eager to join pageants, cause beauty contests in Greece are pretty much dead. They have nothing to gain from them, they cannot use them as a platform to succeed in the fields they wish, so why bother? They prefer to either continue with their studies, or do modelling.


Yeah, that's what I figured.

It's going to take some time to bring back pageantry in Greece, if at all. I think I Am One can really have a productive year if they pick decent women via the casting call and then show the ability to train them properly for not only Miss Universe and Miss World but for careers in modeling or media, etc. I think if they can do that, then we will see women start to show interest in registering in the coming years.

If I Am One is smart, I also think they should invite former Star Hellas winners to come back and mentor the girls and appear on the final night to show how this path can certainly lead to success in several fields. Women like Doukissa Nomikou and Evangelia Aravani are perfect examples because they've been quite successful since winning Star Hellas. They can also bring back Ismini Dafopoulou and Iliana Papageorgiou, who are enjoying great success as models.

If they can do that, then they're in the right direction.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS GREECE UNIVERSE 2018!!!

Postby lacrimas_negras » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:04 am

Smile wrote:Yeah, that's what I figured.

It's going to take some time to bring back pageantry in Greece, if at all. I think I Am One can really have a productive year if they pick decent women via the casting call and then show the ability to train them properly for not only Miss Universe and Miss World but for careers in modeling or media, etc. I think if they can do that, then we will see women start to show interest in registering in the coming years.

If I Am One is smart, I also think they should invite former Star Hellas winners to come back and mentor the girls and appear on the final night to show how this path can certainly lead to success in several fields. Women like Doukissa Nomikou and Evangelia Aravani are perfect examples because they've been quite successful since winning Star Hellas. They can also bring back Ismini Dafopoulou and Iliana Papageorgiou, who are enjoying great success as models.

If they can do that, then they're in the right direction.


100% agree in everything you just posted.

Realistically speaking, what could actually accelerate things a bit is if I Am one managed to produce at least a semifinalist in either Miss Universe or MW but this is a long shot and we both know it. So it's better for them to make baby steps by doing the right things and showcasing their professionalism. I am still hopefull that a new area for the greek pageants will dawn.

Off topic, but my baby Iliana is rumored as a locked-in for the judging panel in the 3rd cycle of Greece's Next Top Model. This will be interesting... :D/
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Re: ROAD TO MISS GREECE UNIVERSE 2018!!!

Postby Jane Austen » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:30 pm

lacrimas_negras wrote:Oh don't get me wrong guys, i'm 100% behind I am One team, cause they seem to be taking this whole project very seriously. However, we should keep in mind, that this is their first year as organisers and i am afraid it will take a lot of time for the greek pageantry to gain its lost glory back. That being said, i am not really expecting miracles to happen this year, i can easily see a not so strong batch of girls happening. Greek media are also to blame. The casting for the Star Hellas competition has received literally zero exposure. I doubt that girls who could be interested in this are aware of the fact that a selecting proceedure is running right now...The people of I Am One indeed renew the page on FB by posting updates, but this is not enough and this is definitely not their fault.
To answer to Smile's question, no, Greek women are not eager to join pageants, cause beauty contests in Greece are pretty much dead. They have nothing to gain from them, they cannot use them as a platform to succeed in the fields they wish, so why bother? They prefer to either continue with their studies, or do modelling.

Συμφωνώ σε όλα...σχεδόν!!
Δε κατηγορώ τα Ελληνικά ΜΜΕ που δε προβάλλαν το διαγωνισμό τα τελευταία χρόνια...δεν υπήρχε υλικό να προβάλλουν!! Κάθε εμφάνιση της Φωτιάδη ή της Ψηλού ήταν ανέκδοτο, υλικό για το "Ράδιο αρβύλα"!

Επίσης ακόμα και στα μυστικά casting έκαναν κάθε χρονιά
, τέτοια μυστικότητα ούτε η Φιλική Εταιρεία, υπήρχαν και καλύτερες επιλογές για το στέμμα!!!
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Re: ROAD TO MISS GREECE UNIVERSE 2018!!!

Postby lacrimas_negras » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:12 pm

Έχεις δίκιο, η σχέση είναι αμφίδρομη. Αν παράγεις χαμηλού επιπέδου εστεμμένες και κάνεις κάστινγκ δίπλα σε πισίνες με μέτριες εμφανισιακά υποψήφιες, τότε τα ΜΜΕ μάλλον θα σε αγνοήσουν. Αυτό επίσης λειτουργεί ίσως αποτρεπτικά για άλλες κοπέλες με πραγματικά προσόντα που ενδεχομένως να ήθελαν να συμμετάσχουν. Το να συνδέσουν δηλαδή το όνομά τους με αυτή τη διαδικασία που ακολουθείτο έως τώρα ήταν κάτι που ήθελαν να το αποφύγουν.

Ίσως όμως η ομάδα του I Am One να αξίζει λίγη περισσότερη προβολή, φαίνεται να γίνεται κάποια προσπάθεια και είναι κρίμα.

Από τη φωτογραφία που πόσταρες πάντως από το κάστινγκ, από το οποίο εκλέξαμε τη Φωτιάδη, νομίζω ότι μόνο η Κατερίνα Γαλιατσάτου άξιζε πραγματικά, η οποία όμως εν συνεχεία παραιτήθηκε (;) από τον τίτλο. Μάλλον επειδή είδε περί τίνος επρόκειτο. Λογικά και το πρακτορείο της θα έπαιξε κάποιον ρόλο σε αυτήν της την απόφαση.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS GREECE UNIVERSE 2018!!!

Postby Jane Austen » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:58 pm

lacrimas_negras wrote:......
Από τη φωτογραφία που πόσταρες πάντως από το κάστινγκ, από το οποίο εκλέξαμε τη Φωτιάδη, νομίζω ότι μόνο η Κατερίνα Γαλιατσάτου άξιζε πραγματικά, η οποία όμως εν συνεχεία παραιτήθηκε (;) από τον τίτλο. Μάλλον επειδή είδε περί τίνος επρόκειτο. Λογικά και το πρακτορείο της θα έπαιξε κάποιον ρόλο σε αυτήν της την απόφαση.

Και η αναπληρωματική Μις Ελλας που πήρε για λίγο τον τίτλο της Μις πριν παραιτηθεί και αυτή για οικονομικούς λόγους όπως και η Κατερίνα!
Αααα θυμάσαι τη συμπαθέστατη Αναστασία Σιδηροπούλου;;;
Κάστινγκ και τότε όχι ανάθεση όπως είχε ειπωθεί, πρώτη η Σιδηροπούλου και δεύτερη η Αντιγόνη Αμπαδά!! =O/ Η οποία είχε λάβει μέρος και στα καλλιστεία του 12...τη χρονια της τραγικής Πικράκη!
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Re: ROAD TO MISS GREECE UNIVERSE 2018!!!

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Jane Austen wrote:
lacrimas_negras wrote:......
Από τη φωτογραφία που πόσταρες πάντως από το κάστινγκ, από το οποίο εκλέξαμε τη Φωτιάδη, νομίζω ότι μόνο η Κατερίνα Γαλιατσάτου άξιζε πραγματικά, η οποία όμως εν συνεχεία παραιτήθηκε (;) από τον τίτλο. Μάλλον επειδή είδε περί τίνος επρόκειτο. Λογικά και το πρακτορείο της θα έπαιξε κάποιον ρόλο σε αυτήν της την απόφαση.

Και η αναπληρωματική Μις Ελλας που πήρε για λίγο τον τίτλο της Μις πριν παραιτηθεί και αυτή για οικονομικούς λόγους όπως και η Κατερίνα!
Αααα θυμάσαι τη συμπαθέστατη Αναστασία Σιδηροπούλου;;;
Κάστινγκ και τότε όχι ανάθεση όπως είχε ειπωθεί, πρώτη η Σιδηροπούλου και δεύτερη η Αντιγόνη Αμπαδά!! =O/ Η οποία είχε λάβει μέρος και στα καλλιστεία του 12...τη χρονια της τραγικής Πικράκη!
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Πάντως στην περίπτωση της Σιδηροπούλου όλοι καταλάβαμε τότε ότι το δικαίωμα να μας εκπροσωπήσει στα Μις Υφήλιος ήταν στην ουσία ένα δώρο παρηγοριάς επειδή δεν τη δέχτηκε η σκύλα η Μόρλει στα Μις Κόσμος το 2012.
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Postby Jane Austen » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:11 pm

Γιατί θυμήθηκα το 12 και συγχύστηκα τωρα;;;; Οταν έχεις αυτή την υποψήφια, κούκλα, κλασάτη και με σπουδές στην Αγγλία και δε της δίνεις ούτε καν ένα τίτλο αναπληρωματικής....άσε με >:<
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Postby Smile » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:13 pm

I really wanted to see Abada compete in Miss Universe. Tsirogianni, at the time, seemed like a good winner but she looked old and tired when she got to Miss Universe. I prefer not to remember Pikraki. :%))

As far as Sidiripoulou's designation in 2013, I'll leave that alone.

Let's just hope those days are behind us.

By the way, I hope Galiatsatou registers to compete again this year.
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Re: ROAD TO MISS GREECE UNIVERSE 2018!!!

Postby lacrimas_negras » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:16 pm

Jane Austen wrote:Γιατί θυμήθηκα το 12 και συγχύστηκα τωρα;;;; Οταν έχεις αυτή την υποψήφια, κούκλα, κλασάτη και με σπουδές στην Αγγλία και δε της δίνεις ούτε καν ένα τίτλο αναπληρωματικής....άσε με >:<
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Ποια είναι αυτή η κοπέλα; Θύμισε μου σε παρακαλώ.

Βέβαια, όσο όμορφες υποψήφιες κι αν στείλουμε, αν δεν κάνουμε σωστή προετοιμασία, δουλειά δε γίνεται...
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Re: ROAD TO MISS GREECE UNIVERSE 2018!!!

Postby Jane Austen » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:55 pm

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Σοβαρά τώρα; Είσαι σίγουρη γι' αυτό που λες; Αχ, αυτός ο Πρεβελάκης!
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Ναι!!! Είχε γίνει σε σπίτι φιλικού του προσώπου, με ωραίο κήπο!! Δε θα πω κάτι άλλο!
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Postby lacrimas_negras » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:56 pm

Smile wrote:By the way, I hope Galiatsatou registers to compete again this year.


That would be amazing but i doubt it... :(

I mean, just look at this girl! Can you guys imagine what a hit she would be with the proper training! :hx




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Postby Smile » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:59 pm

I love her. :hx
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Postby Jane Austen » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:00 pm

Αθηνά Συρράκου η κοπέλα πιο πάνω!! Καλλονή!


Επίσης το 2014
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Postby Smile » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:05 pm

Eleni Kokkinou was a mistake for Miss World. You're right.

You look at these backroom casting calls and you will find a gem or two. But Prevelakis just never seemed to be able to crown the right girl. Has he lost touch with pageantry or is it a money under the table thing?
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Postby lacrimas_negras » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:11 pm

Smile wrote:Eleni Kokkinou was a mistake for Miss World. You're right.

You look at these backroom casting calls and you will find a gem or two. But Prevelakis just never seemed to be able to crown the right girl. Has he lost touch with pageantry or is it a money under the table thing?


I am afraid it could be the latter. :%)) There are many girls who are such ψώνια that to satisfy their egos would force their parents (or bfs =;)) ) to pay for a crown so that they could boast to their friends and their neighbourhood. The international pageants do not seem to interest them.

As i am from the same city as Maria Psilou, i have heard some rumors about how she won the title, but ofc i cannot say such things in public. Besides, they technically are just "rumors".
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Postby Smile » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:16 pm

lacrimas_negras wrote:
Smile wrote:Eleni Kokkinou was a mistake for Miss World. You're right.

You look at these backroom casting calls and you will find a gem or two. But Prevelakis just never seemed to be able to crown the right girl. Has he lost touch with pageantry or is it a money under the table thing?


I am afraid it could be the latter. :%)) There are many girls who are such ψώνια that to satisfy their ego would force their parents (or bfs =;)) ) to pay for a crown so that they could boast to their friends and their neighbourhood. The international pageants do not seem to interest them.

As i am from the same city as Maria Psilou, i have heard some rumors about how she won the title, but ofc i cannot say such things in public. Besides, they technically are just "rumors".


I wouldn't be surprised. Maria Psilou treated her trip to China like a vacation and one long advertisement for purses and other accessories. :%))

With that said, the batch at her casting call seemed weak, even for the low standards Prevelakis had set in previous years. There was one blonde girl who seemed to have potential but her name escapes me for some reason.
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Postby lacrimas_negras » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:22 pm

The only thing i'm gonna say after all these enlightening posts of Jane Austen : I Am One, save us from this mess!!! [-O<
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Re: ROAD TO MISS GREECE UNIVERSE 2018!!!

Postby Smile » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:24 pm

lacrimas_negras wrote:The only thing i'm gonna say after all these enlightening posts of Jane Austen : I Am One, save us from this mess!!! [-O<


Yes!!!

I'm just happy that we can discuss Star Hellas and Greece at Miss Universe again. It's going to be a fun Summer so I hope you guys are around, otherwise I'll be talking to myself in this thread.
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lacrimas_negras wrote:The only thing i'm gonna say after all these enlightening posts of Jane Austen : I Am One, save us from this mess!!! [-O<


Yes!!!

I'm just happy that we can discuss Star Hellas and Greece at Miss Universe again. It's going to be a fun Summer so I hope you guys are around, otherwise I'll be talking to myself in this thread.


Oh, don't worry, i will definitely be around here, eagerly awaiting for more updates! Let's hope that it goes well this time and that we are gonna get presentable delegates who possess beauty, brains, class and elegance! :!!
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Postby lacrimas_negras » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:30 pm

Jane Austen wrote:Ωρα για κουίζ!!!

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Στάνταρ η χειρότερη να υποθέσω...
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Postby Smile » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:31 pm

Jane Austen wrote:Ωρα για κουίζ!!!

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Knowing Prevelakis, it was probably the blonde girl on the end, who looks like she has rich parents and is just happy to be there so she can wear that cute litte outfit!
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Postby Jane Austen » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:36 pm

lacrimas_negras wrote:
Jane Austen wrote:Ωρα για κουίζ!!!

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Ναι η πρώτη, με το καμένο ξανθό μαλλί!
Μακάρι να πάρει μέρος η Κατερίνα ξανά...αλλά 'έχει στεφθεί ήδη Μις Ελλάς! Είχε χάσει τότε το τίτλο; Η απλά δεν πήγε ΜW;;;
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Jane Austen wrote:
lacrimas_negras wrote:
Jane Austen wrote:Ωρα για κουίζ!!!

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Ναι η πρώτη, με το καμένο ξανθό μαλλί!
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Δεν είχε χάσει τον τίτλο, απλά είχε επικαλεστεί προσωπικούς λόγους και δεν είχε ταξιδέψει στην Κίνα. Η ίδια εξάλλου γράφει στο προφίλ της στο IG "Miss Greece World 2015".
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Postby Smile » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:45 pm

lacrimas_negras wrote:
Jane Austen wrote:
lacrimas_negras wrote:
Jane Austen wrote:Ωρα για κουίζ!!!

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Στάνταρ η χειρότερη να υποθέσω...

Ναι η πρώτη, με το καμένο ξανθό μαλλί!
Μακάρι να πάρει μέρος η Κατερίνα ξανά...αλλά 'έχει στεφθεί ήδη Μις Ελλάς! Είχε χάσει τότε το τίτλο; Η απλά δεν πήγε ΜW;;;


Δεν είχε χάσει τον τίτλο, απλά είχε επικαλεστεί προσωπικούς λόγους και δεν είχε ταξιδέψει στην Κίνα. Η ίδια εξάλλου γράφει στο προφίλ της στο IG "Miss Greece World 2015".


Yeah, that probably disqualifies her from competing again. Damn.

Remember the girl they sent in her place to Miss World? :%)) I'm embarrassed to say that she's from the same island my family is from, Chios.
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Postby Jane Austen » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:48 pm

Smile wrote:..... Maria Psilou treated her trip to China like a vacation and one long advertisement for purses and other accessories. :%))

With that said, the batch at her casting call seemed weak, even for the low standards Prevelakis had set in previous years. There was one blonde girl who seemed to have potential but her name escapes me for some reason.

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Postby Smile » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:51 pm

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Smile wrote:..... Maria Psilou treated her trip to China like a vacation and one long advertisement for purses and other accessories. :%))

With that said, the batch at her casting call seemed weak, even for the low standards Prevelakis had set in previous years. There was one blonde girl who seemed to have potential but her name escapes me for some reason.

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Yeah, the blonde girl, second from the left. I saw some recent pics of her that were not bad. The girl next to Maria doesn't look bad either.
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Postby lacrimas_negras » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:54 pm

Jane Austen wrote:
Smile wrote:..... Maria Psilou treated her trip to China like a vacation and one long advertisement for purses and other accessories. :%))

With that said, the batch at her casting call seemed weak, even for the low standards Prevelakis had set in previous years. There was one blonde girl who seemed to have potential but her name escapes me for some reason.

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Τέτοιο "φοβερό" επίπεδο, ούτε τα "Σταρ Όλυμπος" που είχα παρακολουθήσει σε ένα μπαρ πρόπερσι. 8-> ο Η κοπέλα με το μπορντό μαγιό, δίπλα στην Ψηλού δε φαίνεται άσχημη πάντως.
Έλα ρε Smile, από Χίο έχεις καταγωγή; Το Bf είναι από εκεί, πήγαμε και πέρσι διακοπές εκεί. :hx
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Postby Smile » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:57 pm

lacrimas_negras wrote: Έλα ρε Smile, από Χίο έχεις καταγωγή; Το Bf είναι από εκεί, πήγαμε και πέρσι διακοπές εκεί. :hx


Really?!! You have good taste. My sister currently lives there. We've been trying to convince her to move back to New York, she's like "Hell no!". :%))
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