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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby kirby.aravani » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:07 am

    

First of all, I really really have NOTHING against a trans woman winning a pageant, just like what Olivia Culpo said. As long as she's deserving, then why not right? But... I'm kinda sad if the Miss Universe Spain picked her as a winner so that she can secure a place in the Top 15 cause IMG/MUO loveeeesss 'stories'. Personally, I don't find Angela Ponce's face as beautiful as the other contestant. That's my main reason why i think other girls should've won over her.
I didn't watch the final q&a and if I did, i wouldn't understand what they're saying cause i speak no spanish lol. So maybe Angela did great in the final q&a.

Second of all, Andrea de las Heras was beautiful, stunning, pretty, but I just didn't see the spark in her. My ultimate mega main favorite of the Miss Universe Spain 2018 was SHEILA MONJAS. Yes this is so random but I find her VERY VERY UNIQUE. She was so different than the other girls and very different from the past Miss Spain winners. When was the last time Spain had a blonde winner? She's very beautiful and she had this effortless about her. So I'm pretty upset she wasn't the winner.


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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby Missus » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:08 am

I am not against transwomen joining Miss Universe, but come freakin' on this is obviously a gimmick by the Org.

There are better-looking women in the batch. De las Herras was so robbed!
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Postby krissynelli » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:22 am

I KNOW NOW (MOST PROBABLY) THE FINAL 3 MISS UNIVERSE QUESTION! =;))

BUT SERIOUSLY SPAIN? YOU ALLOWED A "WOMAN" WITH NO FALLOPIAN TUBE TO COMPETE AND WIN THE CROWN? >:<
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby the critic » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:33 pm

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yellowyam1 wrote:
Smile wrote:
yellowyam1 wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:
Smile wrote:
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Jonathan Nguyen wrote:I do respect trans people. However, i’m so sick of political correctness manipulating traditional pageants. No more swimsuits, rights for trans, inspiring stories, etc. What’s next? Married women or older women (like in their 60s) can also join Miss Universe??? Come on, I find it ridiculous when MUO allows a trans to compete but prohibits a 60 year old woman from competing. Isn’t it discriminating against old women? You guys feel bad when MUO discriminates against transwomen but why don’t you guys feel bad when MUO discriminates agaisnt old women. Hypocrites!

Restrictions are restrictions. If age restriction is ok, naturally born gender restriction should be ok too. There is nothing wrong if pageants are only for naturally born women. Transwomen have their own pageants.


this is true, they might as well let anybody compete


You know, at one point, black women were not allowed to compete in pageants. You of all people should be more understanding.

There will always be minorities that are excluded but the criteria to compete in pageants has always changed due to the times. They changed the rules for black women to compete and they will change the rules for transgenders to compete. Plain and simple.


Then we should expect in the years to come, heterosexual men will join Miss Universe as well. Plain and simple.


Thank you I knew someone would have brought up black women competing just to prove their point


You're being hypocritical because you often bring up race in your posts. This is not something I do regularly. But since you're someone who's so passionate about black women in pageants, I thought you'd be a bit more sensitive to another minority group's fight.


Excuse me? Trans have their own pageants. So I don’t see why they need to join natural born women pageants.
If that’s the case let married women fat women, overly fem gay men join. Lift the band and let whoever wants to compete compete. That’s only fair


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It's interesting how the targets are the transgendered women and not the pageant organizations. You keep saying "they don't need to join" instead of "why do Miss Spain and Miss Universe allow transgenders to compete". Why is that?


IM NOT TARGETING PONCE IN THIS CASE. SHE JUST A RESULT OF A PUBLICITY STUNT GONE TOO FAR. IT ALL STARTED IN 2012. IF TRUMP HAD STAYED OUT OF CANADA'S BUSINESS WHEN THEY BANNED JENNA TALACKOVA THEN NONE OF THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLE. THERE WAS A RULE STATING SHE MUST BE A NATURAL BORN FEMALE AND IN MY OPINION THAT WAS NOT DISCRIMINATORY.

BUT NO...HE SAW THE WINDOW FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLICITY AND TOOK IT. MAYBE HE THOUGHT THAT NONE OF THEM WOULD PASS THE HURDLE AND MAKE IT TO MISS UNIVERSE STAGE. LOL
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby the critic » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:42 pm

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the critic wrote:SMILE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I'D BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WOMEN WHO WANT TO COMPETE BUT ARE TOO SHORT...TOO OLD (OR TOO YOUNG), IS MARRIED/ DIVIRCED OR HAD A CHILD. IF Miss Universe OPENS TO TRANS-WOMEN THEY SHOULD AT LEAST LIFT THE BLOCKADE ON MARRIED WOMEN, DIVORCEES, MOTHERS AND WOMEN OVER 28 YEARS.

SINCE IVE BEEN A PAGEANT FAN IVE WITNESSED REAL, NATURAL BORN WOMEN GET DENIED BECAUSE OF ONE OF THOSE REASONS. SOME OF THEM EVEN WON THEIR NATIONAL PAGEANT AND HAD TO FORFEIT.


Eh, I'm in no position to tell Miss Universe who they should allow to compete or not. As far as I know, they allow transgenders to compete. If they didn't allow transgenders to compete, I'd be perfectly fine with that.

Miss Universe is free to decide who they want competing in their pageant.

MISS UNIVERSE "WAS FREE" TO DECIDE WHO THEY WANT TO COMPETE BUT ONCE THEY ROLLED BACK ON STANDING RULES IT MAKES THEM OPEN FOR COMPROMISE IN OTHER LESS CONTROVERSIAL AREAS.
IF THEY CAN ROLL BACK ON A FUNDAMENTAL RULE LIKE BEING A NATURAL BORN FEMALE THEN ALLOWING MARRIED WOMEN, DIVORCEES, MOTHERS AND WOMEN OVER 28 YEARS IS ACTUALLY MORE NORMAL.

I WOULD URGE WOMEN LIKE LIKE THOSE TO CHALLENGE THE RULES TOO.
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby prowazekii » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:47 pm

as if spain cares of beauty contests
i think of Miss Universe who is the most beautiful, most femininely graceful, most charming, delightful and sweet...
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby IanC062 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:02 pm


Team Ireland was at the final of Miss Universo Spain 2018.
Ireland could one day have a trans Queen too under Ms. Mason. :=p
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby Rowina » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:42 pm

Bemiss the spanish organization has fixed the choice of the transgreder, she is ugly, no studies, no english, her face and voice are very masculine. Everybody in Spain knew for a long time, that it was fixed for the spanish organization that the transgreder is going to win, and in the contest there were several super beauties like Andrea de las Heras.This is very unfair
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Postby פיקאסו » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:36 pm

THE TRUE AND REAL QUEEN !

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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby Sapphire » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:10 pm

So can girls join Miss Tifanny Universe now too?
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby blunderer » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:45 pm

Sapphire wrote:So can girls join Miss Tifanny Universe now too?


Female borns should challenge that idea too.
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018- June 29 (22 DELEGATES)

Postby exsembhoy » Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:12 am

exsembhoy wrote: Personally, I always look forward to Spain's delegate at Miss Universe, the last two Miss Spain delegates at Miss Universe 2016 and 2017 were really very promising I thought they deserve better/ higher placements!

Anyway, this batch is also very promising and I could see some potential Miss Universe materials in these ladies. I think its difficult to decide because not all the girls have swimsuit photos so its difficult to decide if considering their physique or figure... however Miss Universe recently has focused more on the Beauty of face and personality of the girl..so I believe these photos available would suffice. So based on the pictures, for now, my personal choices for Miss Universe Spain 2018 are... my bets in random:

ARIADNA SUAREZ, 22 years/ 1.80 (6.0)- Very tall and facially she is stunning! (Oh,those beautiful expressive eyes!) I think having a blond Miss Spain this time would be a breath of fresh air!
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VANESA FERNANDEZ, 22/ 1.77 (5.10)- Her brunette beauty is classic that reminds me of Penelope Cruz! I like her, I think she has great figure too!
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ANDREA DE LAS HERAS, 24 years/ 1.75 (5.9)- She's got a beautiful face and a vavavoom figure! I hope can speak a little English so can express herself in another language. Like her alot!
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ANA FERNANDEZ ,24 years/ 1.75 (5.9)- Her beauty is reminiscent of classic beauty queens from the 70s and 80s... I think her experiences as a model will see her through!
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SHEILA MONJAS, 22 years/ 1.77 (5.10)- Here's another blond girl who seems to have a lot of potential. She's got a charming face with such beautiful eyes and lips!
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and these teenagers are also very promising with so much potential!

LAURA MARTÍN, 19 years/ 1.76 (5.9)- She's got those stunning blue eyes and captivating smile! She looks like a living doll! I hope she didnt quit though!
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Paola Lopez Diaz,19 years/ 1.80 - She's got a beautiful face combined with a towering height for a very strong stage presence!
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ANA KRISTINA RIVERO,19 years/ 1.76 (5.9) -Beautiful, sexy, tall and fresh!
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Well 3 of my initial choices made it in the Top 6: Fernandez, Delas Heras and Monjas! I didnt know that Ponce is a transgender when I made my initial choices.

I just thought that these ladies are the most beautiful (in terms of face) so I picked them as my initial favorites for Miss Spain Universe.

So Ponce won??? I am sorry BUT with the many Goddesses representing their respective countries at Miss Universe this year, I am afraid Ponce will be out shined by other women competitors.

I am basing it from the pictures of the confirmed contestants, NOT from their background story of course!

So Spain is sending a transwoman at Miss Universe 2018? AND SO??? WHO IS AFRAID??? COME ON, BRING IT ON!!!

:#)] :#)] :#)] :#)] :-@ :-@ :-@ :-@ :-@
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby missofan705 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:53 am

It's been 6 years, but sorry, I still blame Jenna Talackova for creating this huge mess.
I'm do have the respect for the transgenders, but for a transgender to compete in Miss Universe, a 66-year old pageant traditionally for natural-born women, is such an insult for the girls working hard for YEARS just to compete to Miss Universe.
What if a natural-born woman gets to compete in Miss International Queen? How will transgenders feel? Insulted. Right? It goes the same way afterall.

This is Jenna Talackova's fault. Seriously.
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby Smile » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:59 am

missofan705 wrote:It's been 6 years, but sorry, I still blame Jenna Talackova for creating this huge mess.
I'm do have the respect for the transgenders, but for a transgender to compete in Miss Universe, a 66-year old pageant traditionally for natural-born women, is such an insult for the girls working hard for YEARS just to compete to Miss Universe.
What if a natural-born woman gets to compete in Miss International Queen? How will transgenders feel? Insulted. Right? It goes the same way afterall.

This is Jenna Talackova's fault. Seriously.


No offense but transgender women work harder to have the look and body to compete in pageants.
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby juicy_fruit146 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:30 am

MISS SPAIN IS SO CUTE WHEN HE WAS A BOY! :-* :-* :-O


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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby the critic » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:47 pm

Smile wrote:
missofan705 wrote:It's been 6 years, but sorry, I still blame Jenna Talackova for creating this huge mess.
I'm do have the respect for the transgenders, but for a transgender to compete in Miss Universe, a 66-year old pageant traditionally for natural-born women, is such an insult for the girls working hard for YEARS just to compete to Miss Universe.
What if a natural-born woman gets to compete in Miss International Queen? How will transgenders feel? Insulted. Right? It goes the same way afterall.

This is Jenna Talackova's fault. Seriously.


No offense but transgender women work harder to have the look and body to compete in pageants.


WORK HARD WITH PLASTIC SURGERIES SUCH AS IMPLANTS OR SURGICALLY REDUCING MASCULINE FEATURES.

SURGERY IS SOMETHING NATURAL FEMALES GET BASHED FOR UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby PAULO SANTANDER » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:13 pm

A REAL WOMAN HAS A UTERUS, OVARY, FALLOPIAN TUBE ETC. ANGELO PONCE IS A MAN WHO HAS A MADE-UP vajayjay WHICH USED TO BE A DICK. THERE'S NO WAY HE CAN BE A WOMAN. [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:
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Postby davidtbv » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:07 pm

PAULO SANTANDER wrote:A REAL WOMAN HAS A UTERUS, OVARY, FALLOPIAN TUBE ETC. ANGELO PONCE IS A MAN WHO HAS A MADE-UP vajayjay WHICH USED TO BE A DICK. THERE'S NO WAY HE CAN BE A WOMAN. [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X [-X :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:


Sorry to say but not all woman have uterus, ovary, fallopian tube, vajayjay... Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser (MRKH) syndrome
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Postby prowazekii » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:08 am

ANDREA DE LAS HERAS, could give philippines a clit to clit fight.... ngeta..
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby Smile » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:08 am

She's fabulous.

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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby alex sivixay » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:16 am

Go girl! One of my favourites this year so far I love this girl since before the crowning
In the end I believe beauties are subjective and you are stunning to me and your poise and elegance are just amazing
I believe tons of NDs are milking the stories too and I believe you all have seen it so just take it easy guys
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby missofan705 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:39 pm

I can still remember that I was hoping for ELENA IBARBIA to join Miss Universe Spain so that she'll be with the other Miss World crossovers like Virginia Limongi and Catriona Gray. I expected so much....


BUT ENDED UP WITH ANGELA PONCE. 8-}
I expected too much from Spain and resulted to disappointment. :| Heck, I'm not even a fan of the other runners-up and contestants as well! It should've been Elena who's going to compete to Miss Universe!

Screw you JENNA TALACKOVA! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!
PHILIPPINES! UNIVERSAL QUEENS!

MISS UNIVERSE 2015 - Pia Wurtzbach

MISS UNIVERSE 2018 - Catriona Gray
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby PAULO SANTANDER » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:42 pm

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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby Oma-san » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:04 pm

Quite shocking that so many hate comments are coming from the Philippines! Considering that there are so many feminine gays openly displaying their non-heterosexuality online and on visible online platforms like YouTube. I can understand why Miriam Quiambao was so intolerant. I think transgender are usually better people because they grow through so much in life and cannot conceal their true identity. It's not the same with gays and heterosexuals who blatantly f**k around. Especially the gays who display their rudeness/perverseness as openly as their sexual orientation.
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Re: MISS UNIVERSE SPAIN 2018 is Angela Ponce

Postby Oma-san » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:10 pm

She's not a competitor and although her body is feminine, her face looks quite done. I can't believe so many forumers are so intolerant being members of the LGTB themselves. The next time someone spits on you during your drag show, I won't be sad. On the contrary, :%))
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