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Postby sophocles » Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:04 pm

    

Bunga should have placed. She's very beautiful, and I find her more deserving than some of the girls in the top 16 e.g. China, Croatia, Ireland, etc... I think her prelim gown hurt her chances because this was a very competitive year. Her choice of gown was a mystery to me. I've seen so many fashion pictures of Bunga in the most fabulous gowns, but for some unknown reason, when it came to the most important part of the preliminary competition, she chose a disappointing pink gown. The color and style just did not match her fierce persona, and I'm sure the judges found the dissonance a little jarring. This was the same case as Miss Argentina last year, who was considered one of the fiercest frontrunners and was on everyone's Top 16 list, until she showed up during the prelim competition in a gown that made her look like a Disney princess. She also did not make it.


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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Pacifico » Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:56 pm

Bunga was a good candidate in the wrong time.
1. She was sent in a year where engaging personality & strong background story weigh more than performance.
2. Her gown was hideous, but she made it work (I think she gave the most solid performance on EG preliminary)
3. This new continent thingy. It would never work in her favor since it's clear IMG wants the strongest personality + new country to enter top 16.
I believe if she had competed in Trump's era or there was top 20 this year, she could've made it.
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Postby kurtij » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:06 pm

Japan is better.
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Postby krissynelli » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:55 pm

WRONG STRATEGY FOR INDONESIA TO WORE THOSE HIDEOUS 2007 CIRCA PROM GOWN FOR PRELIMS. HER GOWN FOR THE FINALS WAS BEAUTIFUL BTW...GIRLS SHOULD WEAR THEIR BEST GOWNS DURING PRELIMS. COZ YOU'LL NEVER KNOW...=i
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby libaskelova » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:38 pm

I STILL CAN'T STAND HOW UGLY IRELAND AND BORING ASS CROATIA MADE IT INSTEAD OF RUSSIA!! Also, CHINA OVER INDONESIA?! OH WELL, I'M GLAD SOUTH AFRICAN WON, NOT COLOMBIA.
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby otangzi » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:56 pm

Here is the thing if you are not facially superior do not wear rugs. If your body is not superior do not wear rugs. If you are not a powerhouse do not wear rugs during prelims. She was the best representative their country has ever sent but she wasn't wearing the best look during prelims. They need to understand that they are not a powerhouse country and her chances would be ruined if she, I repeat, wears rugs. I liked her her styling was a shoo-in during casual events but come prelims she looked like a prom girl.
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Postby Arduina » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:20 pm

TheK wrote:the regional quota problem. lezbihonest we all know the composition of Europe wont last that long as the rounds progress. those spots were wasted :)>-


Wouldn't have been wasted had they choose Russia or Iceland ...
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Iknowbeauty » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:24 pm

The continental groupings was very unfair to Asian and African girls. It meant only 2 spots for Asians and 2 spots for Africans while other continents like for example Europe had 4 spots.Girls like Indonesia, India, and Angola my fave from Africa might have had a greater chance if their regions weren't combined.
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:25 pm

Even without the continental format, there is no assurance that Indonesia was in the top 16 since China beat her in the wildcards, also Europe will only get 1-2 placements if there was no continental format, I think Spain and/or Great Britain placed without the continental format.
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby ajsy0203 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:27 pm

Without the continental format, my version top 16 per region would had been:
7 Americas
2 Europe
2 Africa
5 Asia and Oceania

I think the contestants from Americas were very strong during the preliminary competition.
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby formlessdiva » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:13 pm

The explanation is simple!

She went to the wrong venue!

She thought that shes competing to be the next Prom Queen!

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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Kakak » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:49 am

I actually saw this coming. She was a hit or miss. Personality-wise she already lost to some clapper country, facial beauty & body to Russia and Israel, popularity to Thailand, modelesque style to China. Nothing that stood out. Plus IMG doesn't want to feel pressured to place more same countries every year, Philippines and USA are enough.
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Postby DORABIAN » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:52 am

NOTHING SPECIAL.. IF SHE REPRESENT INDONESIA BEFORE 2013. NO ONE EVEN NOTICE HER! ITS JUST INDONESIA SEMIFINAL STREAK MADE PEOPLE GO GAGA ABOUT THIS PLAIN GIRL. PLUS HE COMMUNICATION SKILL ARE POOR.
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Postby HARVIN » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:21 am

krissynelli wrote:WRONG STRATEGY FOR INDONESIA TO WORE THOSE HIDEOUS 2007 CIRCA PROM GOWN FOR PRELIMS. HER GOWN FOR THE FINALS WAS BEAUTIFUL BTW...GIRLS SHOULD WEAR THEIR BEST GOWNS DURING PRELIMS. COZ YOU'LL NEVER KNOW...=i


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I agree, that hideous prom gown was a huge failure. Who could wear that thing in a biggest beauty contest like Miss Universe?

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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Stoichio » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:27 am

novemberRain wrote:She didn't get the Wild card :-D


Bish, of course she won't!
The wildcards are the best performers in prelims while the continental ones are the random picks. SO OBVIOUS! If the wildcards were the countries that invite Miss Universe winner every year, then she would be IN!

I saw videos that she would always try to evade interviews by answering short and insensible answers. I also saw video where she did live video and she didn't speak. That was the time I said "this girl will flank the interview."

She got the height, the walk, maybe, the body as well but not the beauty and the brain.
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Postby abangmu » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:14 am

i understand why she clap.. she's not very communicative, you can see in her live or some other videos, she cannot own the conversation, she need someone to start it for her which is for me a big problem since IMG are looking for a well spoken winner.. however, i do agree that her styling (except the hideous pink gown) is on point like whulandary and elvira.
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Malkovich » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:44 am

Stoichio wrote:
novemberRain wrote:She didn't get the Wild card :-D


Bish, of course she won't!
The wildcards are the best performers in prelims while the continental ones are the random picks. SO OBVIOUS!


... China was one of the best performers in prelims?
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Postby c.c.r » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:24 am

Mostly agree with all of you.. we are also quite worried back then that she will continue Indonesia's streak.

The fact she has been our wishlist since 2011 and she decided to join Puteri Indonesia has become a major booster for us. But since the Miss Universe has changed a lot during IMG, the worry has come to reality. While in Trump era she might be placing high.

Wise talk, she indeed lacks communication skills. Dunno if she is passive, shy, or not really into speaking out whatever in her mind, but it is one of her weakness.

And the dress, yes... 1000x agree that hideous must be burned. We have no idea why she has to chose that horrendous gown to be used for prelim, as even though she nailed the presentation, but it just as tacky as s*#t!
If only she has the advocacy as strong as Anin, or as brilliant as Tya she will make the cut easily.

Both Bunga (Miss Universe) and Michelle (ME - she is the smartest we ever sent to Miss Earth) may not be placed but they indeed have given their best to us. =c3
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Prissila » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:26 am

MUO and IMG are listen to my voices!!i said many beautiful girls smart girls good girls are wating for to make the cut!!it’s time to make justice!No more Php in top 5 with that plain face! I said Srilangka is a beautiful and good girl if plain walk kenya and fat canada make it then Srilangka should place too!!sure IMG now don’t care much about Php and Indonesia if u want to place high u need to produce good quality representative.. >:)
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Postby kurtij » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:01 am

Prissila wrote:MUO and IMG are listen to my voices!!i said many beautiful girls smart girls good girls are wating for to make the cut!!it’s time to make justice!No more Php in top 5 with that plain face! I said Srilangka is a beautiful and good girl if plain walk kenya and fat canada make it then Srilangka should place too!!sure IMG now don’t care much about Php and Indonesia if u want to place high u need to produce good quality representative.. >:)


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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby kurtij » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:04 am

Stoichio wrote:
novemberRain wrote:She didn't get the Wild card :-D


Bish, of course she won't!
The wildcards are the best performers in prelims while the continental ones are the random picks. SO OBVIOUS! If the wildcards were the countries that invite Miss Universe winner every year, then she would be IN!

I saw videos that she would always try to evade interviews by answering short and insensible answers. I also saw video where she did live video and she didn't speak. That was the time I said "this girl will flank the interview."

She got the height, the walk, maybe, the body as well but not the beauty and the brain.


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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby kathrineskie » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:39 am

Arduina wrote:
TheK wrote:the regional quota problem. lezbihonest we all know the composition of Europe wont last that long as the rounds progress. those spots were wasted :)>-


Wouldn't have been wasted had they choose Russia or Iceland ...


Or France.
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Postby davidtbv » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:14 pm

I love Bunga pre Miss Universe, but once she arrived in Vegas she becomes dry and unnoticeable
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Beta » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:33 pm

Loved Bunga!
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Stoichio » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:11 pm

Malkovich wrote:
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novemberRain wrote:She didn't get the Wild card :-D


Bish, of course she won't!
The wildcards are the best performers in prelims while the continental ones are the random picks. SO OBVIOUS!


... China was one of the best performers in prelims?



She was! Ask the scorecards from MUO.

They scored her high in interview and personality mainly due to her 'unique from the rest' approach.

I didn't like Miss China though. For me, she was a trying hard model in the competition haha! But MUO had a different taste and plan.
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby otangzi » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:36 am

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novemberRain wrote:She didn't get the Wild card :-D


Bish, of course she won't!
The wildcards are the best performers in prelims while the continental ones are the random picks. SO OBVIOUS!


... China was one of the best performers in prelims?



She was! Ask the scorecards from MUO.

They scored her high in interview and personality mainly due to her 'unique from the rest' approach.

I didn't like Miss China though. For me, she was a trying hard model in the competition haha! But MUO had a different taste and plan.


I thought China deserved the spot. She was a rare find, very unique. Her look is a breathe of fresh air too and she was very engaging even though she cannot speak fluent English. For me you don't need to be fluent in English to make the cut. The key is personality, attitude and support from the people.
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Toma » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:27 am

Stoichio wrote:
novemberRain wrote:She didn't get the Wild card :-D


Bish, of course she won't!
The wildcards are the best performers in prelims while the continental ones are the random picks. SO OBVIOUS! If the wildcards were the countries that invite Miss Universe winner every year, then she would be IN!

I saw videos that she would always try to evade interviews by answering short and insensible answers. I also saw video where she did live video and she didn't speak. That was the time I said "this girl will flank the interview."

She got the height, the walk, maybe, the body as well but not the beauty and the brain.


When KEVIN WON Miss International, u said its because of the 1 week training in the philippines
Bunga trained twice in the Philippines yet she clapped ... so whats ur view now?
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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Stoichio » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:53 pm

Toma wrote:
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novemberRain wrote:She didn't get the Wild card :-D


Bish, of course she won't!
The wildcards are the best performers in prelims while the continental ones are the random picks. SO OBVIOUS! If the wildcards were the countries that invite Miss Universe winner every year, then she would be IN!

I saw videos that she would always try to evade interviews by answering short and insensible answers. I also saw video where she did live video and she didn't speak. That was the time I said "this girl will flank the interview."

She got the height, the walk, maybe, the body as well but not the beauty and the brain.


When KEVIN WON Miss International, u said its because of the 1 week training in the philippines
Bunga trained twice in the Philippines yet she clapped ... so whats ur view now?



My view?

She trained with A&Q right?
This year KF shitted on A&Q hahaha!

Great Britain trained with KF for 1 week! She was called in Top 16 because she's intelligent.

Aside from that, all the things that Bunga learned from A&Q were her best weapon i.e. the walk, the make-up. A&Q can't replace her brain nor her face.

Plus, please don't compare an apple to an orange!
MI is decided on a memorized speech. It is easier to win there! That Kevin girl will clap also in Miss Universe!

If it is very hard for you to be grateful, better not send your girls to train in PH next time around. Intiendes?


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Re: WHAT WENT WRONG INDONESIA??

Postby Toma » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:34 am

Stoichio wrote:
Toma wrote:
Stoichio wrote:
novemberRain wrote:She didn't get the Wild card :-D


Bish, of course she won't!
The wildcards are the best performers in prelims while the continental ones are the random picks. SO OBVIOUS! If the wildcards were the countries that invite Miss Universe winner every year, then she would be IN!

I saw videos that she would always try to evade interviews by answering short and insensible answers. I also saw video where she did live video and she didn't speak. That was the time I said "this girl will flank the interview."

She got the height, the walk, maybe, the body as well but not the beauty and the brain.


When KEVIN WON Miss International, u said its because of the 1 week training in the philippines
Bunga trained twice in the Philippines yet she clapped ... so whats ur view now?



My view?

She trained with A&Q right?
This year KF shitted on A&Q hahaha!

Great Britain trained with KF for 1 week! She was called in Top 16 because she's intelligent.

Aside from that, all the things that Bunga learned from A&Q were her best weapon i.e. the walk, the make-up. A&Q can't replace her brain nor her face.

Plus, please don't compare an apple to an orange!
MI is decided on a memorized speech. It is easier to win there! That Kevin girl will clap also in Miss Universe!

If it is very hard for you to be grateful, better not send your girls to train in PH next time around. Intiendes?




So, its not the training but the girls, right? :)>-
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