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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby manoypoe » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:45 pm

    

THE RANKING OF THE COVERAGE THIS YEAR WILL BE

MISS UNIVERSE
MISS EARTH
MISS WORLD OR INTERNATIONAL

I ONLY WATCH AND FOLLOW THE TWO MOST EXCITING PAGEANTS, MISS UNIVERSE AND MISS EARTH. :=p :=p =D> =D> :!! :!! PRE PAGEANT ACTIVITIES ARE EXCITING ESPECIALLY FOR MISS EARTH.

BORING PAGEANTS ARE MISS WORLD AND MISS INTERNATIONAL.

THOUGH THERE IS AN ACTUAL COMPETITION ON STAGE IN THREE PAGEANTS, MISS UNIVERSE, MISS EARTH AND MISS INTERNATIONAL. WHILE MISS WORLD IS A PRE DETERMINED CONTEST, WITH THE WINNERS ALREADY A DONE DEAL BEFORE THE GIRLS START PARADING ON STAGE DURING THE GRADUATION RITE. NO COMPUTERS TO INPUT THE JUDGES SCORES AND NO CREDIBLE ACCOUNTING FIRM TO TABULATE THEIR SCORES.


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Postby muzical » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:03 pm

Excited for

Miss World

Miss Universe

And

Miss Supranational

:!! <:-P
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Postby muzical » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:10 pm

Excited for the next superstar from Miss World and Miss Supranational.. :-*
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Postby Smile » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:17 pm

Miss Universe, Miss World and Miss Supranational are the only pageants that matter.
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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:19 pm

In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))

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Postby Iknowbeauty » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:36 pm

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JamesCedricLim wrote:Indeed November will be a busy month for all pageant fans in the world. It will be like "SWEET NOVEMBER" . One of Keannu R. best movies.


2. Miss World - I think Julia learned her lesson well. and i think to avoid same scandalous last year, she will not give the crown to Indonesia or china for obvious reasons. They will settle as runner ups again. She will give it to someone and that will surprise us all again. But this time it will be acceptable to fans just to redeem herself after last year's brouhaha.



I can assure you the current Miss World winner has been more than acceptable to fans. There was no brouhaha, & nothing controversial about her except only in the minds of some from a particular country who displayed the ultimate sore loser behavior in pageantry.


You may be right. But what is unclear to the fans is ND was invited to sit as a judge which was uncalled for. This gave bad paint to the Org and eyes of the fans, regardless if they are straight in judging or not. But still supporting MW thou.


Well in that case that is a separate issue that has nothing to do with Stephanie since her ND was not a judge and the problem is some are using the ND excuse that should be for Indonesia to say Stephanie's win was undeserving so it makes you wonder is it really the ND issue that's bothering some people or is it just all about the fact that their country's representative didn't win.
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Postby Zinnia » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:59 am

HAHA love the catfights going on :%)) small pageant or big i don't really care... i'm still gonna follow all that 4 pageants.. especially all my binibini girls to their respective pageants...Definitely all my energy are RESERVED for November period!! :!! :!!

Miss Universe 2022 is like a rollercoaster ride.
FULL OF SURPRISES !!!


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Postby Roman Reigns » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:01 am

Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:13 am

Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!
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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby sarahmarrow » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:48 pm

For me, MISS UNIVERSE only. nothing else.

(The rest are boring to watch.)
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Postby lutosfeet » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:01 pm

DORABIAN wrote:WHOAAAAAA ARE YOU READY TO PREPARE YOUR MENTAL AND PHYSICAL?
ALL EVILS, SATANS, TROLLS, AND NEWBIES WILL WAKE UP FROM GRAVE IN THIS MONTH!!! :%)) :%)) :%)) :%))


And that includes you right? =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) 8-} 8-} 8-} 8-}
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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby lingintexas » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:47 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all
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Postby Stoichio » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:14 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!




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Andami ko tawa! Kung nakakatanda lang ang katangahan, 1000 years old na siya ngayun LOL!
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:59 pm

lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


Just as I am with mine! Stop lawyering for this dimwit if you have no clue as to how and what started it all. What gives you the ascendancy to claim a holier-than-thou attitude when your credibility itself is beyond redemption?
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Postby lingintexas » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:50 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


Just as I am with mine! Stop lawyering for this dimwit if you have no clue as to how and what started it all. What gives you the ascendancy to claim a holier-than-thou attitude when your credibility itself is beyond redemption?


He called Miss Earth a small pageant you called him a nitwit instead of debating your point and sorry I don`t hear you complaining when your clan comes to your defense free speech forum keep the hate out we can all read when and where it all started. You know nothing of my credibility since you are obviously unable to distinguish between the online world and the real one.
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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby Smile » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:57 pm

lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


This is typical Pinoy behavior here. No one can express their opinion without getting a ridiculous response from them.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:19 pm

lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


Just as I am with mine! Stop lawyering for this dimwit if you have no clue as to how and what started it all. What gives you the ascendancy to claim a holier-than-thou attitude when your credibility itself is beyond redemption?


He called Miss Earth a small pageant you called him a nitwit instead of debating your point and sorry I don`t hear you complaining when your clan comes to your defense free speech forum keep the hate out we can all read when and where it all started. You know nothing of my credibility since you are obviously unable to distinguish between the online world and the real one.


Oh, yes. I know everything about your claim of self-aggrandizement. Credibility? You have none of that. Zilch. Nada. End of story!

You guys have to stop denigrating Ms Earth. If you hate the small pageant, don't follow it. Ms Earth is not begging for your attetion. It's as simple as that!
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Postby lingintexas » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:41 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


Just as I am with mine! Stop lawyering for this dimwit if you have no clue as to how and what started it all. What gives you the ascendancy to claim a holier-than-thou attitude when your credibility itself is beyond redemption?


He called Miss Earth a small pageant you called him a nitwit instead of debating your point and sorry I don`t hear you complaining when your clan comes to your defense free speech forum keep the hate out we can all read when and where it all started. You know nothing of my credibility since you are obviously unable to distinguish between the online world and the real one.


Oh, yes. I know everything about your claim of self-aggrandizement. Credibility? You have none of that. Zilch. Nada. End of story!

You guys have to stop denigrating Ms Earth. If you hate the small pageant, don't follow it. Ms Earth is not begging for your attetion. It's as simple as that!


You sound a little angry, again you and some of your fellow countrymen think it`s okay to bash the current Miss World becasue you lost but if we say something about Miss Earth your undergarments are in a bundle. I could care less what you or your minions think of me Pawee and several others who I know personally know my claims are well backed. Miss Earth is not begging for my attention it needs all the viewership it can get so it`s on a major network and not streaming badly from the side of a pool. FYI I don`t follow it I just look forward to watching you self-congratulate your self. I wonder how hard it must be to crane your neck all the way back to kiss your own ass?
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Postby lingintexas » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:45 pm

Smile wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


This is typical Pinoy behavior here. No one can express their opinion without getting a ridiculous response from them.


The thing is they don`t see where they start or fuel most of the crap on this forum then they cry wolf. I made a statement earlier and some unknown in this forum went with the n word and all sorts of racist shit, the only way they know how to express their felling.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:58 pm

lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


Just as I am with mine! Stop lawyering for this dimwit if you have no clue as to how and what started it all. What gives you the ascendancy to claim a holier-than-thou attitude when your credibility itself is beyond redemption?


He called Miss Earth a small pageant you called him a nitwit instead of debating your point and sorry I don`t hear you complaining when your clan comes to your defense free speech forum keep the hate out we can all read when and where it all started. You know nothing of my credibility since you are obviously unable to distinguish between the online world and the real one.


Oh, yes. I know everything about your claim of self-aggrandizement. Credibility? You have none of that. Zilch. Nada. End of story!

You guys have to stop denigrating Ms Earth. If you hate the small pageant, don't follow it. Ms Earth is not begging for your attetion. It's as simple as that!


You sound a little angry, again you and some of your fellow countrymen think it`s okay to bash the current Miss World becasue you lost but if we say something about Miss Earth your undergarments are in a bundle. I could care less what you or your minions think of me Pawee and several others who I know personally know my claims are well backed. Miss Earth is not begging for my attention it needs all the viewership it can get so it`s on a major network and not streaming badly from the side of a pool. FYI I don`t follow it I just look forward to watching you self-congratulate your self. I wonder how hard it must be to crane your neck all the way back to kiss your own ass?


My unsolicited advice: Stop following Ms Earth! That should make your existence less miserable. As simple as that!
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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:09 pm

lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


Just as I am with mine! Stop lawyering for this dimwit if you have no clue as to how and what started it all. What gives you the ascendancy to claim a holier-than-thou attitude when your credibility itself is beyond redemption?


He called Miss Earth a small pageant you called him a nitwit instead of debating your point and sorry I don`t hear you complaining when your clan comes to your defense free speech forum keep the hate out we can all read when and where it all started. You know nothing of my credibility since you are obviously unable to distinguish between the online world and the real one.


No problem. They always react aggressively and nastily when they find that their opponents are absolutely RIGHT :%)) and they just have nothing else to rebut. That is their typical behavior. They use the big number of Pinoy population here and nasty comments as weapons to hurt others. Most forumers don't dare to express their opinions because they are afraid of Pinoys' pettiness. Fact!

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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby Smile » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:15 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:You guys have to stop denigrating Ms Earth.


We don't have to stop doing anything. This is a forum where we discuss and share our opinions on pageantry. This thread in particular is a discussion about the top 4 pageants (labeled by the thread starter) and whether or not we all agree with that statement.

I do not, and I've expressed that view here. I think Miss Supranational is a bigger, better, and more entertaining pageant than Miss Earth and Miss International right now. Even Misso thinks so, which is why they placed the Supranational banner right under Miss Universe and Miss World, and below that are Earth and International.

You may believe that Miss Earth is the best pageant in the world. That's your prerogative but it doesn't make it true.
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lingintexas wrote:
Smile wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


This is typical Pinoy behavior here. No one can express their opinion without getting a ridiculous response from them.


The thing is they don`t see where they start or fuel most of the crap on this forum then they cry wolf. I made a statement earlier and some unknown in this forum went with the n word and all sorts of racist shit, the only way they know how to express their felling.


Yeah, I saw that. That was unacceptable. They take everything so personally, as if they own stock in Miss Earth. We all don't have to like Miss Earth. I also don't like Miss International but you don't see anyone insulting me because of it.
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Postby Jonathan Nguyen » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:21 pm

One more thing, they give themselves the right to "express opinions" on others but others can't express opinions on them. What kind of logic is that? They fat shame Audra and Sierra but their sacred ME Kat Espin is gorgeous on the heavy side. Pathetic =;))

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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby lingintexas » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:39 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
lingintexas wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
Roman Reigns wrote:
Jonathan Nguyen wrote:In conclusion, Miss Earth is just a small pageant. End of discussion here ;/))


... but not as small as your pea-sized brain. :%))


When pilloried against the wall, and escape is nowhere seen in the horizon, that is what dimwit Nguyen does as a last recourse! End of story!


This is the thing that leads to these nasty arguments in threads. He is entitled to his opinion about Miss Earth, it just dissolves into name calling and nasty racist comments because some people can`t handle criticism at all


Just as I am with mine! Stop lawyering for this dimwit if you have no clue as to how and what started it all. What gives you the ascendancy to claim a holier-than-thou attitude when your credibility itself is beyond redemption?


He called Miss Earth a small pageant you called him a nitwit instead of debating your point and sorry I don`t hear you complaining when your clan comes to your defense free speech forum keep the hate out we can all read when and where it all started. You know nothing of my credibility since you are obviously unable to distinguish between the online world and the real one.


Oh, yes. I know everything about your claim of self-aggrandizement. Credibility? You have none of that. Zilch. Nada. End of story!

You guys have to stop denigrating Ms Earth. If you hate the small pageant, don't follow it. Ms Earth is not begging for your attetion. It's as simple as that!


You sound a little angry, again you and some of your fellow countrymen think it`s okay to bash the current Miss World becasue you lost but if we say something about Miss Earth your undergarments are in a bundle. I could care less what you or your minions think of me Pawee and several others who I know personally know my claims are well backed. Miss Earth is not begging for my attention it needs all the viewership it can get so it`s on a major network and not streaming badly from the side of a pool. FYI I don`t follow it I just look forward to watching you self-congratulate your self. I wonder how hard it must be to crane your neck all the way back to kiss your own ass?


My unsolicited advice: Stop following Ms Earth! That should make your existence less miserable. As simple as that!


Here is my unsolicited advice stop getting angry and hateful when things don`t go your way. For that LITTLE jab my life is not miserable pageants are not my life apparently unlike you. Have a great day and get that stick out of your ass
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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby lingintexas » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:47 pm

JamesCedricLim wrote:
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JamesCedricLim wrote:Indeed November will be a busy month for all pageant fans in the world. It will be like "SWEET NOVEMBER" . One of Keannu R. best movies.


2. Miss World - I think Julia learned her lesson well. and i think to avoid same scandalous last year, she will not give the crown to Indonesia or china for obvious reasons. They will settle as runner ups again. She will give it to someone and that will surprise us all again. But this time it will be acceptable to fans just to redeem herself after last year's brouhaha.



I can assure you the current Miss World winner has been more than acceptable to fans. There was no brouhaha, & nothing controversial about her except only in the minds of some from a particular country who displayed the ultimate sore loser behavior in pageantry.


You may be right. But what is unclear to the fans is ND was invited to sit as a judge which was uncalled for. This gave bad paint to the Org and eyes of the fans, regardless if they are straight in judging or not. But still supporting MW thou.


She is not Puerto Rico`s ND and this narrative has been proven false and it`s still coming up as a talking point
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Re: ALL Big 5 PAGEANTS WILL BE IN NOVEMBER

Postby Malkovich » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:23 am

Miss Universe and Miss World.
The rest are just the rest. :-j
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Postby MariaAndreina » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:13 am

As a pageant fan, I'm looking forward to all four pageants. Especially since I'm excited for my girls competing in MW, MI and ME.

In reality, however, we all know that only Miss Universe and Miss World truly matter.
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Postby MISSUNIVERSEFANS » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:10 am

MISS UNIVERSE AND STEVE HARVEY. BYE =;))
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Postby Roman Reigns » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:05 am

Jonathan Nguyen wrote:One more thing, they give themselves the right to "express opinions" on others but others can't express opinions on them. What kind of logic is that? They fat shame Audra and Sierra but their sacred ME Kat Espin is gorgeous on the heavy side. Pathetic =;))


...actually, the only pathetic here is you and your illogical behavior. :-*
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