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Postby stanlee30 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:00 am

    

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Postby Paola De Bracho 2.0 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:35 am

the pageant fans all over the world are laughing about this news.

see how frustrated this forgettable island to penetrate into the semis of the number one pageant in the world.

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Postby arkenken » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:28 am

Still don't get why she won.
Everything is so finite. But don't you think that that's what makes our time, at specific moments, so important?

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Postby JamesCedricLim » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:51 am

I dont see why people are not being contented for what they have achieved. Having a Major Crown is such a feat unless you yourself see it as not an achievement or low that's why you are aiming for higher or more. While it is understandable to those who settled for runner ups to pursue and aim for the best. Well good luck.

Note: I am only talking about Beauty Pageants. Coz i know that is not wrong to aim for the best in different fields.

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Postby ajsy0203 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:57 am

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Postby hauteegirl » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:54 am

I think she's the least attractive Miss International winner.
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Postby Clorentine » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:35 am

Is a hell no for me, is pure Vanity and Gluttony, she already has a big crown
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Postby ambasing » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:52 pm

Give her a chance!

Ms International is not as famous and fabulous as Ms Universe..


She has a bigger dream.
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Postby ne0n » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:32 pm

If she is qualified to join and is not violating any rules, let her be. It's her life. The last thing one wants is regrets for not trying..
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Postby Beta » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:30 pm

so i'm all for joining as many pageants as you can, but if you already have a major crown, there's all sorts of cringeworthy issues with this move.

1. what's the reason for this? The MI crown wasn't enough?
2. if she doesn't win MUPR at the very least, i think it will cheapen her MI win -- she's gambling away her prestige
3. are there rules in place? both written and UNSPOKEN?
4.conflict of interest issues?

regardless these issues, more power to her - if there are no legal issues, who are we to say "nay"?
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Postby Beta » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:34 pm

Beta wrote:so i'm all for joining as many pageants as you can, but if you already have a major crown, there's all sorts of cringeworthy issues with this move.

1. what's the reason for this? The MI crown wasn't enough?
2. if she doesn't win MUPR at the very least, i think it will cheapen her MI win -- she's gambling away her prestige
3. are there rules in place? both written and UNSPOKEN?
4.conflict of interest issues?

regardless these issues, more power to her - if there are no legal issues, who are we to say "nay"?


and i'd like to know how misso choose what words to underline? weird....
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Postby ajsy0203 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:15 pm

If Valerie wins Miss Universe Puerto Rico, will Edymar and Kevin follow suit?

Note: It is very impossible that Kylie will compete at MW Philippines given she is already 26 years old and busy in her showbiz career and BPCI will definitely not appoint her as Miss Universe Philippines.
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Postby lucy » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:30 am

TOO GREEDY! 8-} , WINNING MISS INTERNATIONAL IS ALREADY A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT BEING PART OF THE BIG FOUR PAGEANTS! :)>-
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Postby Kwangkang Kikimoh » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:40 am

stanlee30 wrote:Winner or Clapper?



WHO IS SHE? WHAT IS HER NAME ?
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Postby cindy_kato » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:59 pm

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Postby ambasing » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:49 pm

lucy wrote:TOO GREEDY! 8-} , WINNING MISS INTERNATIONAL IS ALREADY A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT BEING PART OF THE BIG FOUR PAGEANTS! :)>-


Oh Dear - Only Ms Universe is significant to pageant fans---they don't even know what Ms International is!!duh..hahahahahaha

Go Valerie----
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Postby The Duchess » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:05 am

Coming from the Puertorrican perspective, I can say I can understand her ambition and choice.

The reality is that in Puerto Rico, even when pageants were watched and followed fully (I would say up until the 2010's) the one pageant that people watched here was the Miss Universe pageant. All pageant girls want to be Miss Universes. It's the most prestigious beauty pageant and the one we do the best as plus is one that matches with our style of competition the most. Miss World would be like the second one that every once in a blue moon we watch or talk about but we even have sayings about how we never win MW (well not anymore but you get the point) and stuff so its not really that followed. Nothing else really, unless you are a pageant fan you wont know what the rest of pageants are.

Her ambition is to be Miss Universe like all the other pageant girls in Puerto Rico, that's why you see all crossovers come from MUPR or atleast start there, they want to be the next Denise or the next Dayanara. Many of them end up in other places because they wanna try other pageants. I'm not surprised by this. Or by a former Miss Intercontinental winner participating either.

Now, I wouldn't risk not placing in my national pageant for a matter of reputation but ya know if you really want it by all means.
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Postby The Duchess » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:16 am

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Beta wrote:so i'm all for joining as many pageants as you can, but if you already have a major crown, there's all sorts of cringeworthy issues with this move.

1. what's the reason for this? The MI crown wasn't enough?
2. if she doesn't win MUPR at the very least, i think it will cheapen her MI win -- she's gambling away her prestige
3. are there rules in place? both written and UNSPOKEN?
4.conflict of interest issues?

regardless these issues, more power to her - if there are no legal issues, who are we to say "nay"?


and i'd like to know how misso choose what words to underline? weird....



3. No written rules and as for unwritten there really hasn't been precedent. We don't have MEs or Miss Supra winners. Wilnelia (MW), Stephanie (MW) and Janelee (MGI) had careers and contracts with their ORGs so they found their calling in a way. Laurie Simpson Rivera came from Miss Universe before she won the MI. Heylimar (MInter) won just last year so it was too close and Elizabeth Robinson went to Miss Universe before winning Miss Intercontinental. So we've never had precedent on this issue until Maydelise and Valerie auditioned.
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:17 am

The Duchess wrote:Coming from the Puertorrican perspective, I can say I can understand her ambition and choice.

The reality is that in Puerto Rico, even when pageants were watched and followed fully (I would say up until the 2010's) the one pageant that people watched here was the Miss Universe pageant. All pageant girls want to be Miss Universes. It's the most prestigious beauty pageant and the one we do the best as plus is one that matches with our style of competition the most. Miss World would be like the second one that every once in a blue moon we watch or talk about but we even have sayings about how we never win MW (well not anymore but you get the point) and stuff so its not really that followed. Nothing else really, unless you are a pageant fan you wont know what the rest of pageants are.

Her ambition is to be Miss Universe like all the other pageant girls in Puerto Rico, that's why you see all crossovers come from MUPR or atleast start there, they want to be the next Denise or the next Dayanara. Many of them end up in other places because they wanna try other pageants. I'm not surprised by this. Or by a former Miss Intercontinental winner participating either.

Now, I wouldn't risk not placing in my national pageant for a matter of reputation but ya know if you really want it by all means.


Dayanara did not win MI 1992 so she was able to compete at MUPR 1993 and Miss Universe 1993 that she both won. But this is a different case, Valerie won MI 2014, so she is trying to take a very huge risk and a possible domino effect for other Miss International or even other Big 5 pageant winners if she will win MUPR and Miss Universe.

I think Miss Intercontinental is a "minor" international pageant for some of the fans, also Lara Dutta was a former Miss Intercontinental 1997 winner later won Miss Universe 2000.
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Postby The Duchess » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:20 am

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The Duchess wrote:Coming from the Puertorrican perspective, I can say I can understand her ambition and choice.

The reality is that in Puerto Rico, even when pageants were watched and followed fully (I would say up until the 2010's) the one pageant that people watched here was the Miss Universe pageant. All pageant girls want to be Miss Universes. It's the most prestigious beauty pageant and the one we do the best as plus is one that matches with our style of competition the most. Miss World would be like the second one that every once in a blue moon we watch or talk about but we even have sayings about how we never win MW (well not anymore but you get the point) and stuff so its not really that followed. Nothing else really, unless you are a pageant fan you wont know what the rest of pageants are.

Her ambition is to be Miss Universe like all the other pageant girls in Puerto Rico, that's why you see all crossovers come from MUPR or atleast start there, they want to be the next Denise or the next Dayanara. Many of them end up in other places because they wanna try other pageants. I'm not surprised by this. Or by a former Miss Intercontinental winner participating either.

Now, I wouldn't risk not placing in my national pageant for a matter of reputation but ya know if you really want it by all means.


Dayanara did not win MI 1992 so she was able to compete at MUPR 1993 and Miss Universe 1993 that she both won. But this is a different case, Valerie won MI 2014, so she is trying to take a very huge risk and a possible domino effect for other Miss International or even other Big 5 pageant winners if she will win MUPR and Miss Universe.

I think Miss Intercontinental is a "minor" international pageant for some of the fans, also Lara Dutta was a former Miss Intercontinental 1997 winner later won Miss Universe 2000.


What I meant is Rican pageant girls want to be Dayanara ergo Miss Universes; but we don't have precedents of girls winning Big 5s and subcequent minor pageants trying to get MUPR. Valerie and Maydelise are setting the precedent n PR is what I meant
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Postby ajsy0203 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:24 am

The Duchess wrote:
Beta wrote:
Beta wrote:so i'm all for joining as many pageants as you can, but if you already have a major crown, there's all sorts of cringeworthy issues with this move.

1. what's the reason for this? The MI crown wasn't enough?
2. if she doesn't win MUPR at the very least, i think it will cheapen her MI win -- she's gambling away her prestige
3. are there rules in place? both written and UNSPOKEN?
4.conflict of interest issues?

regardless these issues, more power to her - if there are no legal issues, who are we to say "nay"?


and i'd like to know how misso choose what words to underline? weird....



3. No written rules and as for unwritten there really hasn't been precedent. We don't have MEs or Miss Supra winners. Wilnelia (MW), Stephanie (MW) and Janelee (MGI) had careers and contracts with their ORGs so they found their calling in a way. Laurie Simpson Rivera came from Miss Universe before she won the MI. Heylimar (MInter) won just last year so it was too close and Elizabeth Robinson went to Miss Universe before winning Miss Intercontinental. So we've never had precedent on this issue until Maydelise and Valerie auditioned.


Among the former Miss Earth winners that has the chance to compete at bigger pageants, only Jamie is qualified she is 24 years old but according to sources by some forumers Jamie has no intention to compete in Bb. Pilipinas or Miss World Philippines. Alyz and Katherine are qualified too but they are more focused on handling their national pageants since they already became the national directors. Among the 2010s titleholders Nicole, Olga, Tereza, Angelia and Karen are already overage especially Olga got married.
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Postby yellowyam1 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:09 am

what's the problem did Pia and other girls entered other pageants before miss universe? Damn if the girl wants to enter 60 pageants let her its her life
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Postby Arduina » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:01 am

As long as she wins her national pageant fair and square I don't see any problem with that.
The only issue here is her relations with the MIO, they might see this as not considering their organization as "THE" one.
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Postby The Duchess » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:14 pm

Arduina wrote:As long as she wins her national pageant square and fair I don't see any problem with that.
The only issue here is her relations with the MIO, they might see this as not considering their organization as "THE" one.


If I'm not mistaken they either liked the pics talking bout her MUPR participation or posted something. Cant remember very well
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Postby HARVIN » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:13 am

They are indeed frustrated for Miss Universe semi finalist spot. >:) No matter how this bankrupt island is trying over and over again to get a semi finalist, the Miss Universe organization will never pay attention to them. Your luck is OVER PR so keep trying. >:)

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Denise, please send this greedy plain jane to Miss UNIVERSE and let's see how far she can go, she might be eaten alive there. >:) >:) =;))

Her greediness might affect future placements chances of PR in Miss International. She has no respect at all to her former title. PR drought in MISS INTERNATIONAL might happen also in the future. >:) >:) >:)
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Postby TranniesRUs » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:58 am

Hmm. It would be interesting to see her compete as PR’s rep at Miss Universe.
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Re: FORMER MISS INTERNATIONAL joining MISS UNIVERSE PR!!!

Postby jalzamani » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:06 am

you all are hypocrites.
Before throwing stones at this girl, think what MI gave her. Did she get a memorable reign? Was she made popular?
There was no projects, no tasks, no invites, no international assignments, no media publicity, nothing.
Nothing special happened to her in her life even after winning the so called big pageant.
She may be enthusiastic and wants to make her country proud, and whats wrong in that? as long as she wins fair and square, there is no problem.
On the other hand, its a bitter truth that MI is not a prestigious pageant as misso claims it to be.
Miss International is still on the front space because of pinoy victories, if misso decided to throw away Miss International from Big 5, pinoy crown count plummets to
4 (no, pool pageant doesnt matter 3:)

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MISS UNIVERSE - MISS WORLD - MISS SUPRANATIONAL - Miss Gwand INTERNATIONAL
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Re: FORMER MISS INTERNATIONAL joining MISS UNIVERSE PR!!!

Postby paopaonine » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:39 am

I respect her decision to join Miss Universe but she's no Dayanara Torres/Denise Quinones/Cynthia Olavarria/Mayra Matos calibre.I just don't see her placing in Miss Universe if she wins Miss Puerto Rico Universe.Her win in Miss International was honestly surprising. @-) @-) @-)
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Re: FORMER MISS INTERNATIONAL joining MISS UNIVERSE PR!!!

Postby lucy » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:37 am

ambasing wrote:
lucy wrote:TOO GREEDY! 8-} , WINNING MISS INTERNATIONAL IS ALREADY A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT BEING PART OF THE BIG FOUR PAGEANTS! :)>-


Oh Dear - Only Ms Universe is significant to pageant fans---they don't even know what Ms International is!!duh..hahahahahaha

Go Valerie----


ONLY TO PINOYS AND LATINOS ! 8-} :)>- , BUT MISS WORLD CRUSHES BOTH OF THEM IN THE REST OF THE CONTINENTS WORLDWIDE, ANYWAYS MISS INTERNATIONAL IS STILL A MAJOR CROWN OWNED BY A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY JAPAN AND I LOVE THEIR HISTORY :)>- :=p
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Re: FORMER MISS INTERNATIONAL joining MISS UNIVERSE PR!!!

Postby Sapphire » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:59 pm

I hope she wins!

It'd be so interesting to see a former Big 5 titleholder at another Big 5 pageant!
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