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Of Hawaii, Crimea, Kurdistan, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, etc.

Postby ajsy0203 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:36 pm

    

Aside from the countries and territories competed at the international pageants, there are other "states" with special status competed in several international pageants like Hawaii at Miss International, Crimea at Miss Earth, Kurdistan, Tibet, North Cyprus and several Russian republics like Tatarstan & Bashkortostan in several minor pageants.

What is your stand behind their acceptance in several international pageants?


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Re: Of Hawaii, Crimea, Kurdistan, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan,

Postby Geeyourhair » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:43 pm

The more the merrier. Especially for Miss Earth, we need someone to represent their territory to bring environmental issues at the forefront because each territory has its own governmental body.
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Re: Of Hawaii, Crimea, Kurdistan, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan,

Postby filipinoako28 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:17 pm

ajsy0203 wrote:Aside from the countries and territories competed at the international pageants, there are other "states" with special status competed in several international pageants like Hawaii at Miss International, Crimea at Miss Earth, Kurdistan, Tibet, North Cyprus and several Russian republics like Tatarstan & Bashkortostan in several minor pageants.

What is your stand behind their acceptance in several international pageants?


It depends on how “major” a pageant is conceived to be. Or even as to who owns the pageant. For example, Japan has the luxury to have a Miss TAIWAN in Miss INTERNATIONAL while in the Philippine grown Miss Earth Pageant, in 2015, it was met with Diplomatic Protest from the Chinese Embassy demanding that it be changed to Chinese Taipei. Hawaii is also allowed by Japan since before it was annexed as part of the US, the royal family of Hawaii had very close ties with the Japanese royalty. However, in Miss Earth, it will be close to impossible to see a Miss Hawaii.
Another scenario would be, if a pageant isn’t perceived as a major pageant, governments/states with legitimate claims on these territories wouldn’t notmally mind because it wouldn’t cause that much impact - hence territories such as Tartastan, Kurdistan, etc...
I’m afraid a Tibetan Woman in Miss Earth will no longer happen as China has solidified it’s position. Cirmea in Miss Earth have been coming from the Russian allied faction.
This is what I learned from very limited research I have made before. And yep, world politics sucks. You would think that we live in modern times but some of these restrictions are still in place
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Re: Of Hawaii, Crimea, Kurdistan, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan,

Postby Malcanthet » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:23 pm

filipinoako28 wrote:
ajsy0203 wrote:Aside from the countries and territories competed at the international pageants, there are other "states" with special status competed in several international pageants like Hawaii at Miss International, Crimea at Miss Earth, Kurdistan, Tibet, North Cyprus and several Russian republics like Tatarstan & Bashkortostan in several minor pageants.

What is your stand behind their acceptance in several international pageants?


It depends on how “major” a pageant is conceived to be. Or even as to who owns the pageant. For example, Japan has the luxury to have a Miss TAIWAN in Miss INTERNATIONAL while in the Philippine grown Miss Earth Pageant, in 2015, it was met with Diplomatic Protest from the Chinese Embassy demanding that it be changed to Chinese Taipei. Hawaii is also allowed by Japan since before it was annexed as part of the US, the royal family of Hawaii had very close ties with the Japanese royalty. However, in Miss Earth, it will be close to impossible to see a Miss Hawaii.
Another scenario would be, if a pageant isn’t perceived as a major pageant, governments/states with legitimate claims on these territories wouldn’t notmally mind because it wouldn’t cause that much impact - hence territories such as Tartastan, Kurdistan, etc...
I’m afraid a Tibetan Woman in Miss Earth will no longer happen as China has solidified it’s position. Cirmea in Miss Earth have been coming from the Russian allied faction.
This is what I learned from very limited research I have made before. And yep, world politics sucks. You would think that we live in modern times but some of these restrictions are still in place


In regards to Taiwan, what will be the consequences if the pageant official let Miss Taiwan wear the Taiwan sash instead of Chinese Taipei? Why is China dictating to pageant officials ? Let them withdraw from the contest. Everybody know they brought their two Miss World crowns.
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