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CONTROVERSIAL - CARY SANTIAGO SPEAKING ABOUT DISCRIMINATION

Postby manoypoe » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:48 pm

    

THIS VIDEO IS ESPECIALLY DEDICATED TO LGBT MEMBERS WHO LOVE TO CRY FOUL OR CALL OTHERS AS HATERS WHENEVER ONE DOES NOT AGREE WITH WHAT LGBT IS FIGHTING FOR - EQUALITY, DISCRIMINATION BLAH BLAH BLAH.

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Postby hahahahuhu » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:13 pm

I agree with him.

Just look how stupid that now GIRLS are accepted in the BOYscouts of America. For God's sake it's called BOYScouts because it is for boys. There's a GIRLscouts for girls.... and they call that for the sake of equality and eradication of gender discrimination. I called that stupidity to the highest level.

and so on ....

EQUALITY MUST ALSO HAVE ITS LIMITS, otherwise we become stupids and idiots.
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Postby labila » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:17 pm

my point si mama!
pangit ka!!!
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Postby prowazekii » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:38 am

paandar.. sya ba designer ni angelo ponce?
i think of Miss Universe who is the most beautiful, most femininely graceful, most charming, delightful and sweet...
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Postby Sapphire » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:39 am

I love the LGBTQ+ community but I still don't agree with Angela Ponce's participation at Miss Universe.

If it's all about equality then everyone's just going to start joining everything. Maybe we'll see straight guys and girls on RuPaul's drag race just for the money. If this was turned around a girl would want to join Miss Tiffany, I have a feeling the trans community would be apprehensive about that.
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Postby quelab22 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:42 am

Sapphire wrote:I love the LGBTQ+ community but I still don't agree with Angela Ponce's participation at Miss Universe.

If it's all about equality then everyone's just going to start joining everything. Maybe we'll see straight guys and girls on RuPaul's drag race just for the money. If this was turned around a girl would want to join Miss Tiffany, I have a feeling the trans community would be apprehensive about that.


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Postby mybadname » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:51 pm

Ponce should not participate Miss Universe. Kahit anong gawin nya, di maikakaila na may titi sya dat!! Science might changed his genitalia but his genes will forever be the genes of Adam and not of Eve. Only blind fool believe his transformation. Duh!!
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Postby mybadname » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:53 pm

Ponce should not participate Miss Universe. Kahit anong gawin nya, di maikakaila na may titi sya dat!! Science might changed his genitalia but his genes will forever be the genes of Adam and not of Eve. Only blind fool believe his transformation. Duh!!
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Postby davidtbv » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:45 pm

His a gay guy and doesnt know anything about transgenderism sorry. He doesnt even know anything about human rights, equality and SOGI. He design gowns and have artistry and thats it

Also his privilege, what if his a bakla from iskwater, youll still give him relevance?

Try to say that to the Supreme Court of Spain or Miss Universe Organization decision commitee and his arguments will not be even valid


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Postby pacifico falafoxy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:35 pm

Yes, any straight guy can claim transgender to win the contest for fame and glory.
There would more confusion coming up in this world.

I still believe in traditional values to keep things clear and in order.

Again, be careful with too much liberal thinking. It will ruin natural and morale order. It has started already.
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Postby vincintjance » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:04 pm

ULTRALIBERALISM IS MENTAL DISORDER. THIS IS WHAT DONALD TRUMP NOW IS FIGHTING IN AMERICA UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY.
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Postby Flordeliza Luningning » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:23 pm

Juzzzzkooooppoooohhhh,,, candidate pa lang si Angela Ponce,,, eh paano na kaya kung maging winner siya ng Miss Universe or Miss World... eh baka nagwala na ang karamihan ng bakla dito sa misso... =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) :%)) >:) :%))
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Postby sleuth08 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:23 pm

CARY SANTIAGO HAS A RIGHT TO VOICE HIS OPINION

BUT REGARDLESS, WHETHER WE AGREE OR NOT, ANGELA PONCE WILL STILL COMPETE IN MISS UNIVERSE AS LONG AS THE MISS UNIVERSE ORG ALLOWS IT

AND OF COURSE WE WILL STILL WATCH MISS UNIVERSE TO WATCH CATRIONA GRAY WIN THE CROWN.
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Postby AaronICK » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:49 pm

I think the problem is not with Angela Ponce. She is eligible to compete, therefore her participation should be respected. So I don't understand why some people are attacking her personally. It just goes to show that there are still people who are unaccepting of transgenders as a whole, not just as a Miss Universe contestant.

Why don't we criticize the Miss Universe Org who decided to allow transgenders to compete in the pageant instead of attacking Angela? It's not Angela's fault is she was allowed to compete. She can compete because the organization allowed her to compete. It should be the MUO who should get the criticism for allowing transgenders to join in the first place. Our worries of a future MUO infiltrated with transgender candidates is very much real and a cause of worry for some people.

Let us remember that EQUALITY IS DIFFERENT FROM EQUITY. People who fight for the rights of transgenders to join Miss Universe may be fighting for EQUALITY. But in their quest for equality, they are actually disrespecting the rights of those naturally-born women.

In reality, we should be fighting for EQUITY... the quality of being fair and impartial. So it's only fair for naturally-born women to compete in a pageant created specifically for them.

On the other hand, Miss Universe is not created for transgenders. But a pageant already exists and was created specifically for them (Miss International Queen). So it's only fitting for them to compete in that pageant where they can highlight their strengths.

Miss Universe should reverse it's 2012 decision that allows transgenders to join and revert it back to the original rule as a pageant for "naturally-born women" because that, in itself, is the very essence of Miss Universe. Besides, Trump is not the owner of the MUO anymore.

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Postby manoypoe » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:47 am

AaronICK wrote:I think the problem is not with Angela Ponce. She is eligible to compete, therefore her participation should be respected. So I don't understand why some people are attacking her personally. It just goes to show that there are still people who are unaccepting of transgenders as a whole, not just as a Miss Universe contestant.

Why don't we criticize the Miss Universe Org who decided to allow transgenders to compete in the pageant instead of attacking Angela? It's not Angela's fault is she was allowed to compete. She can compete because the organization allowed her to compete. It should be the MUO who should get the criticism for allowing transgenders to join in the first place. Our worries of a future MUO infiltrated with transgender candidates is very much real and a cause of worry for some people.

Let us remember that EQUALITY IS DIFFERENT FROM EQUITY. People who fight for the rights of transgenders to join Miss Universe may be fighting for EQUALITY. But in their quest for equality, they are actually disrespecting the rights of those naturally-born women.

In reality, we should be fighting for EQUITY... the quality of being fair and impartial. So it's only fair for naturally-born women to compete in a pageant created specifically for them.

On the other hand, Miss Universe is not created for transgenders. But a pageant already exists and was created specifically for them (Miss International Queen). So it's only fitting for them to compete in that pageant where they can highlight their strengths.

Miss Universe should reverse it's 2012 decision that allows transgenders to join and revert it back to the original rule as a pageant for "naturally-born women" because that, in itself, is the very essence of Miss Universe. Besides, Trump is not the owner of the MUO anymore.

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THE REASON ON CRITICISM AGAINST PONCE IS HIS AMBITION. HE SHOULD HAVE RESPECTED...
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Postby fortela » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:14 am

vincintjance wrote:ULTRALIBERALISM IS MENTAL DISORDER. THIS IS WHAT DONALD TRUMP NOW IS FIGHTING IN AMERICA UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY.


it was actually trump era that allowed transgenders to join ms universe. trump is a "balimbing"
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Postby davidtbv » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:18 am


Its not her ambition , she is qualified and a female. She can be a Miss Universe because she ticked all the right boxes and is legal

If you want to complain not to her. Go to the root of it. Miss Universe Org and Supreme Court of Spain. But im sure they would not even your invalid arguments sorry



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AaronICK wrote:I think the problem is not with Angela Ponce. She is eligible to compete, therefore her participation should be respected. So I don't understand why some people are attacking her personally. It just goes to show that there are still people who are unaccepting of transgenders as a whole, not just as a Miss Universe contestant.

Why don't we criticize the Miss Universe Org who decided to allow transgenders to compete in the pageant instead of attacking Angela? It's not Angela's fault is she was allowed to compete. She can compete because the organization allowed her to compete. It should be the MUO who should get the criticism for allowing transgenders to join in the first place. Our worries of a future MUO infiltrated with transgender candidates is very much real and a cause of worry for some people.

Let us remember that EQUALITY IS DIFFERENT FROM EQUITY. People who fight for the rights of transgenders to join Miss Universe may be fighting for EQUALITY. But in their quest for equality, they are actually disrespecting the rights of those naturally-born women.

In reality, we should be fighting for EQUITY... the quality of being fair and impartial. So it's only fair for naturally-born women to compete in a pageant created specifically for them.

On the other hand, Miss Universe is not created for transgenders. But a pageant already exists and was created specifically for them (Miss International Queen). So it's only fitting for them to compete in that pageant where they can highlight their strengths.

Miss Universe should reverse it's 2012 decision that allows transgenders to join and revert it back to the original rule as a pageant for "naturally-born women" because that, in itself, is the very essence of Miss Universe. Besides, Trump is not the owner of the MUO anymore.

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Postby AaronICK » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:30 am

fortela wrote:
vincintjance wrote:ULTRALIBERALISM IS MENTAL DISORDER. THIS IS WHAT DONALD TRUMP NOW IS FIGHTING IN AMERICA UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY.


it was actually trump era that allowed transgenders to join ms universe. trump is a "balimbing"


BALIMBING. Yes. That's the right word.

Remember even at that time, Trump was already contemplating on running for the US presidency. And he needed as many voters he can get. So one of his hidden agenda was to accept transgenders to compete to appease the transsexuals.

Forward to present day and ask him the same question (granted that he's still the owner of the MUO). Do you think he will still allow transgenders to join?

Your guess is as good as mine.
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Postby Stoichio » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:17 pm

hahahahuhu wrote:I agree with him.

Just look how stupid that now GIRLS are accepted in the BOYscouts of America. For God's sake it's called BOYScouts because it is for boys. There's a GIRLscouts for girls.... and they call that for the sake of equality and eradication of gender discrimination. I called that stupidity to the highest level.

and so on ....

EQUALITY MUST ALSO HAVE ITS LIMITS, otherwise we become stupids and idiots.



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Postby JaninaCruz-Vega » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:19 pm

for me Ponce shouldn't take the blame she's just playing her card. MUO allowed the participation in the first place.
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Postby manoypoe » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:22 pm

davidtbv wrote:
Its not her ambition , she is qualified and a female. She can be a Miss Universe because she ticked all the right boxes and is legal

If you want to complain not to her. Go to the root of it. Miss Universe Org and Supreme Court of Spain. But im sure they would not even your invalid arguments sorry



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AaronICK wrote:I think the problem is not with Angela Ponce. She is eligible to compete, therefore her participation should be respected. So I don't understand why some people are attacking her personally. It just goes to show that there are still people who are unaccepting of transgenders as a whole, not just as a Miss Universe contestant.

Why don't we criticize the Miss Universe Org who decided to allow transgenders to compete in the pageant instead of attacking Angela? It's not Angela's fault is she was allowed to compete. She can compete because the organization allowed her to compete. It should be the MUO who should get the criticism for allowing transgenders to join in the first place. Our worries of a future MUO infiltrated with transgender candidates is very much real and a cause of worry for some people.

Let us remember that EQUALITY IS DIFFERENT FROM EQUITY. People who fight for the rights of transgenders to join Miss Universe may be fighting for EQUALITY. But in their quest for equality, they are actually disrespecting the rights of those naturally-born women.

In reality, we should be fighting for EQUITY... the quality of being fair and impartial. So it's only fair for naturally-born women to compete in a pageant created specifically for them.

On the other hand, Miss Universe is not created for transgenders. But a pageant already exists and was created specifically for them (Miss International Queen). So it's only fitting for them to compete in that pageant where they can highlight their strengths.

Miss Universe should reverse it's 2012 decision that allows transgenders to join and revert it back to the original rule as a pageant for "naturally-born women" because that, in itself, is the very essence of Miss Universe. Besides, Trump is not the owner of the MUO anymore.

#MyTwoCents


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THE REASON ON CRITICISM AGAINST PONCE IS HIS AMBITION. HE SHOULD HAVE RESPECTED...


WHY WOULD WE COMPLAIN TO MUO? WE ARE DISCUSSING AND YES, SPAIN MADE HIM A WOMAN AND MOU ALLOWED HIM BUT DOES IT MAKE HIM A WOMAN FOR MANY OF US? NAH... EVEN MANY MEMBERS OF LGBT DO NOT SUPPORT HIM IN HIS AMBITION. THINK ABOUT IT. :%)) :%)) =;)) =;))

IF THE ULTRASOUND WILL KNOW IF A CHILD IN THE WOMB IS TRANSGENDER OR NOT - MAYBE I WOULD CHANGE MY MIND. WHAT YA THINK? :%)) :%)) =;)) =;))
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Date of Birth: 15 Apr 1975
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: Assassin of Idiots
Western Zodiac Sign: Taurus
Hobbies/Interests: Web surfing
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