BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!


Forum rules
Welcome to Missosology! RULES: Freedom of speech allowed but 1. NO CROSSING LIMITS AS DIRECT RACIST REMARKS, NUDE OR VIOLENT PICS. 2. NO SPAMMING/FLOODING 3. NO ADVERTISING 4. NO BLACKMAILING/VIOLATING/DIVULGING PRIVACY/personal infos of members as posting their real life pic/real life name without their consent. 5. NO AVENGING/ATTACKING MEMBERS ON THEIR PHYSICAL LOOKS 6. NO REPUTATION BUTTON ABUSE. Any question, feel free to post in the Help Desk section till a Moderator/Admin responds. HAVE FUN!



  • 1

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby aldoteng » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:21 am

    

The Duchess wrote:
aldoteng wrote:
manies_flip wrote:
koji wrote:Prostitution is never ok. [-X


feminists will say otherwise


Quite ironically, feminists are divided between supporting and opposing prostitution. However, there is a sweeping tendency for feminism to be against beauty pageantry.

Prostitution, if voluntary, is a private exchange between seller and buyer, both of whom decide how much the service is worth in monetary value.

Beauty pageantry is a ridiculous and farcical institution with some random people claiming to be "experts in judging beauty" and deciding who is more beautiful than others.


Feminist are actually very divided in the prostitution dialogue, and surprisingly they are feminist that do not have a problem with pageants that are more than just "who has a cute face".

Now I ask you, if you feel that way about pageantry, why are you in a forum solely dedicated to it?


Because beauty pageantry is, despite its silly concept, highly entertaining and full of glitz and gowns and twirling, faces like Oxana and Paulina, etc etc.

I too noticed a few other posters who express the same opinion - that this is all just good ol' entertainment.


aldoteng
INTERMEDIATES are EVOLVING posters.
INTERMEDIATES are EVOLVING posters.
 
Posts: 195
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:36 am
Location: Singapore
Country: Singapore (sg)
Reputation: 161
Real Life Name/Nick: aldoteng
Date of Birth: 20 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Profession: Trading
Western Zodiac Sign: Aquarius
Chinese Zodiac: Dog
Hobbies/Interests: Singing in the shower
Message: Hello! Nice forums.

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby The Duchess » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:31 am

aldoteng wrote:
The Duchess wrote:
aldoteng wrote:
manies_flip wrote:
koji wrote:Prostitution is never ok. [-X


feminists will say otherwise


Quite ironically, feminists are divided between supporting and opposing prostitution. However, there is a sweeping tendency for feminism to be against beauty pageantry.

Prostitution, if voluntary, is a private exchange between seller and buyer, both of whom decide how much the service is worth in monetary value.

Beauty pageantry is a ridiculous and farcical institution with some random people claiming to be "experts in judging beauty" and deciding who is more beautiful than others.


Feminist are actually very divided in the prostitution dialogue, and surprisingly they are feminist that do not have a problem with pageants that are more than just "who has a cute face".

Now I ask you, if you feel that way about pageantry, why are you in a forum solely dedicated to it?


Because beauty pageantry is, despite its silly concept, highly entertaining and full of glitz and gowns and twirling, faces like Oxana and Paulina, etc etc.

I too noticed a few other posters who express the same opinion - that this is all just good ol' entertainment.


I see, interesting
Image
User avatar
The Duchess
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
 
Posts: 5872
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:22 am
Country: Puerto Rico (pr)
Reputation: 6719
Date of Birth: 01 Sep 1995
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Profession: Costume Design
Hobbies/Interests: Arts, Music, Literature
Message: Write a message here

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby springroll » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:07 am

does anyone think Dayana slept with trump? I mean i love her and she totally deserves the crown, but... given how Trump loves her so much and puts her on the Apprentice (and with the recent stormy scandal)... do you think girls sleep with trump for the crown?
springroll
NEWBIES are NEW members.
NEWBIES are NEW members.
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:50 am
Country: United Kingdom (uk)
Reputation: 0
Date of Birth: 17 Nov 1984
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: education
Hobbies/Interests: pageants
Message: Write a message here

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Kukay » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:03 pm

It's scary in Venezuela .
Justice system is slow .
Is the Venezuelan government even investigating the case or the Venezuelan police maybe ?
All I see are just media doing its own investigation .
User avatar
Kukay
SUPER SONICS are SPEEDIEST posters.
SUPER SONICS are SPEEDIEST posters.
 
Posts: 11065
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:35 am
Country: United States (us)
Reputation: 48907
Date of Birth: 16 Nov 2007
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: Tambay
Hobbies/Interests: Mang asar
Message: Write a message here

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Kukay » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:09 pm

Prostitution is a crime .
I'm not a lawyer but I think this is a criminal case .
The police should step in .
It should not be just the Cisneros group making its own decision .
User avatar
Kukay
SUPER SONICS are SPEEDIEST posters.
SUPER SONICS are SPEEDIEST posters.
 
Posts: 11065
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:35 am
Country: United States (us)
Reputation: 48907
Date of Birth: 16 Nov 2007
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: Tambay
Hobbies/Interests: Mang asar
Message: Write a message here

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Clayton » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:01 pm

JoelR wrote:
hjackson wrote:I REMEMBER, GABRIELLA, MARIAM AND ESPECIALLY MARELISA GIBSON WEARING EXPENSIVE DESIGNER PIECES DURING THEIR COMPETITION !!!!


Mariam comes from a rich family so idk if she participated. If anything this just proves she bought the crown.


And for Molly she’s half Swiss so may.. she also have money!
User avatar
Clayton
Dark green members are SEMI-ACTIVE posters.
Dark green members are SEMI-ACTIVE posters.
 
Posts: 908
Joined: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:43 pm
Country: France (fr)
Reputation: 717
Real Life Name/Nick: Zéphyr
Date of Birth: 02 Dec 2000
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Gay
Profession: Law
Western Zodiac Sign: Sagittarius
Chinese Zodiac: Tiger
Hobbies/Interests: Being a D.I.V.A!
Message: Hi there!

  • 7

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Pedro » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:40 pm

As terrible and disgusting as this is, we cannot say it is shocking - especially when it comes to Latin America as a whole; our countries are devastated by poverty (particularly in larger cities) and it seems that beauty queens are some sort of wishful thinking fantasy of a better future, even though these girls have to sacrifice so much to get there, some of them dying on the hands of clandestine doctors, others having to act as prostitutes or escorts in order to finance their way to the top.
This scandal is strongly anticipated and shout out in the documentary "To be a miss" (2016), available on Netflix, where Veruzhka Ramírez, MV 1997, talks about how bizarrely detached is Miss Venezuela (and everything that comes with it) from the country's economy and political situation.

I fear for the repercussions of this on little girls, who are already being thrown into pageants while their parents say they've "been crazy about pageants since they were babies", as if them, as legal guardians, are not responsible for encouraging this competitiveness at such an early age.

In a short period of time, it will be heartbreaking for the people to know that their main international recognition is being taken away from them; but in the future, venezuelans will understand that they need to refrain from this pageant fever until it reaches a healthy level. And there are people around here endorsing this kind of behavior, which is unacceptable and irresponsible.

Not to mention pageants in Venezuela (America as a whole) are extremely racist.
User avatar
Pedro
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
 
Posts: 4142
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:16 pm
Location: Sydney
Country: Brazil (br)
Reputation: 547
Real Life Name/Nick: Pedro
Date of Birth: 26 Nov 1993
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: -----------
Profession: Researcher
Western Zodiac Sign: Sagittarius
Hobbies/Interests: ­­­­­­­­­
Message: Write a message here

  • 3

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby aldoteng » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:10 am

Kukay wrote:Prostitution is a crime .
I'm not a lawyer but I think this is a criminal case .
The police should step in .
It should not be just the Cisneros group making its own decision .


Lazily lifted off wikipedia:
Sex work in Venezuela is legal and regulated. The country's Ministry of Health and Social Development requires sex workers to carry identification cards and to have monthly health checkups. Prostitution is common, particularly in Caracas and in other domestic tourist destinations.

Whether the legal system prosecutes these players depends on the exact wording in Venezuela's laws, and whether the state is interested to prosecute in the first place: the rich guy (buyer), the pretty girl (seller), and the pimp (facilitator).

I'd imagine that the legal system is more interested in how the money was obtained in the first place. If it is proven to be illegally gained, the pretty girl might also be in trouble.
aldoteng
INTERMEDIATES are EVOLVING posters.
INTERMEDIATES are EVOLVING posters.
 
Posts: 195
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:36 am
Location: Singapore
Country: Singapore (sg)
Reputation: 161
Real Life Name/Nick: aldoteng
Date of Birth: 20 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Profession: Trading
Western Zodiac Sign: Aquarius
Chinese Zodiac: Dog
Hobbies/Interests: Singing in the shower
Message: Hello! Nice forums.

  • 2

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby The Alchemist » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:19 pm

Pedro from Brazil posted the best response on this issue!

Its disheartening that that MVO continued to present the facade of glitz and glamour of Venezuela despite the rotten reality on the ground. There is wealth in Venezuela but controlled by a handful powerful and greedy people, MVO and the misses chose to partake in this dark scheme to get their share of the wealth instead of actually helping the nation out of the mud like what they always claim in Pageant Q&A’s. MVO chose the wrong path to keep up with the powerhouse status.
And is paying dearly for it!

IMG and MWO idea of a Queen is NOT a girl from Venezuela!

Strong Independent Sassy Confident...Scientist Doctors Lawyers, Career Oriented.....
Image
User avatar
The Alchemist
PAGEANT APPRENTICES are novice experts & connoisseurs.
PAGEANT APPRENTICES are novice experts & connoisseurs.
 
Posts: 3772
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:17 am
Location: Around the world
Country: Philippines (ph)
Reputation: 4457
Real Life Name/Nick: Mar
Date of Birth: 15 Jul 1984
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: Traveler
Western Zodiac Sign: Libra
Chinese Zodiac: Monkey
Hobbies/Interests: Traveling
Message: All I wanna do is travel and yes watch Ms Universe

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby lutosfeet » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:54 pm

Clayton wrote:
JoelR wrote:
hjackson wrote:I REMEMBER, GABRIELLA, MARIAM AND ESPECIALLY MARELISA GIBSON WEARING EXPENSIVE DESIGNER PIECES DURING THEIR COMPETITION !!!!


Mariam comes from a rich family so idk if she participated. If anything this just proves she bought the crown.


And for Molly she’s half Swiss so may.. she also have money!


Agree, Mariam is very rich, that's why many raised their eyebrows when she won Miss Venezuela knowing that her attitude and beauty doesn't scream MV Universe .. I wonder why how much did she or her family paid to get the crown @-) @-) @-) @-) Yeah that will answer the rumors afterall
lutosfeet
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
 
Posts: 6284
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:34 am
Country: Philippines (ph)
Reputation: 6674
Date of Birth: 04 Mar 1987
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Gay
Profession: Rocker
Western Zodiac Sign: Aries
Chinese Zodiac: Rat
Hobbies/Interests: pageant and writing
Message: hello everyone

  • 2

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Nina Cleopatra » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:24 pm

NEW TESTIMONIAL! EX MV CONTESTANT ANGIE PEREZ ACCUSES GABRIEL RAMOS, OSMEL SOUSA ASSISTANT OF PIMPING AS WELL. SHE TOLD GISELLE REYES BUT SHE DIDN'T TOOK THE INFO SERIOUSLY. GIRL WAS 21 WHEN THIS HAPPENED. :-O :-O :-O

[youtube]bTj1v5P3ymQ[/youtube]
Image
User avatar
Nina Cleopatra
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
 
Posts: 13514
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:21 pm
Location: Cairo
Country: Puerto Rico (pr)
Reputation: 11036
Date of Birth: 21 Dec 1984
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: Queen
Western Zodiac Sign: Gemini
Hobbies/Interests: Be Pampered
Message: Who's in charge of the girls?.. I'M IN CHARGE OF THE GIRLS!

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Kukay » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:57 am

aldoteng wrote:
Kukay wrote:Prostitution is a crime .
I'm not a lawyer but I think this is a criminal case .
The police should step in .
It should not be just the Cisneros group making its own decision .


Lazily lifted off wikipedia:
Sex work in Venezuela is legal and regulated. The country's Ministry of Health and Social Development requires sex workers to carry identification cards and to have monthly health checkups. Prostitution is common, particularly in Caracas and in other domestic tourist destinations.

Whether the legal system prosecutes these players depends on the exact wording in Venezuela's laws, and whether the state is interested to prosecute in the first place: the rich guy (buyer), the pretty girl (seller), and the pimp (facilitator).

I'd imagine that the legal system is more interested in how the money was obtained in the first place. If it is proven to be illegally gained, the pretty girl might also be in trouble.


Hmmm

That's interesting
User avatar
Kukay
SUPER SONICS are SPEEDIEST posters.
SUPER SONICS are SPEEDIEST posters.
 
Posts: 11065
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:35 am
Country: United States (us)
Reputation: 48907
Date of Birth: 16 Nov 2007
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: Tambay
Hobbies/Interests: Mang asar
Message: Write a message here

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Rauma » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:23 am

Sapphire wrote:
Rauma wrote:I believe there is something fishy, the moral values of MVO has always been low, pushing the girls into plastic surgeries (in many cases unnecessarly) and teaching them how to get a sponsors for the surgeries and other stuff the girls needed to fix. I have seen a ducument by two Venezuelan girls made in 2013 (?) They revieled the offers and even some of the businessmen who offered to sponsore.

I hate to admit that even such gorgeous ladies like Alyz Henrich or Gabriela Isler were part of it. However Gabriela has already been "made" by Venevision so she could step in to the competition quiet well prepared already. In Alyz's case I don't know.

However I still refuse to believe that ALL the gorgeous ladies like Gabriela, Alyz, Andrea Rozales, or the goddess Edymar Gutierrez would be output of curruption and prostitution :-O ~X(


I wonder if it only applies to the main winner? I remember the reasons why Stephanie de Zorzi went to Mexico during her reign was because she needed to find a living because the MVO was not giving her much. Maira and Andrea Rosales wore the same gowns they wore at MVO finals...

Now I wonder about Ivian, she had a pretty rocking gown! But I hope not.


According to my understaning it applies already when they try to win their state/province crown. The two girls who spoke up in 2012-2013 were asked to get sponsorser for their state final approach. Both denied and didn't make it that far. Although both beautiful without any need of plastic surgeries MVO listed out for them (nose job, chin remake and breast reconstruction for both plus extras to respective girl).
But both of them were made "clappers crying for attention" by MVO after their documentary release. @-)
Earthquakes don't recognize borders. Diseases, famine, drought don't recognize borders. Why the f* should we?
User avatar
Rauma
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
 
Posts: 4586
Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:40 pm
Location: Helsinki
Country: Finland (fi)
Reputation: 5870
Real Life Name/Nick: Marie
Date of Birth: 24 Jul 1979
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Profession: Accountant
Western Zodiac Sign: Leo
Chinese Zodiac: Goat
Hobbies/Interests: Music, fitness, dancing, arts, modelling

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Rauma » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:27 am

ms_melanie wrote:Is this the documentary that most of you are referring?

[youtube]ofZedk-5JGA[/youtube]


Nope there are 2 others, one older (end of 90's or early 2000's) and one from 2012-13
Earthquakes don't recognize borders. Diseases, famine, drought don't recognize borders. Why the f* should we?
User avatar
Rauma
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
 
Posts: 4586
Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:40 pm
Location: Helsinki
Country: Finland (fi)
Reputation: 5870
Real Life Name/Nick: Marie
Date of Birth: 24 Jul 1979
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Profession: Accountant
Western Zodiac Sign: Leo
Chinese Zodiac: Goat
Hobbies/Interests: Music, fitness, dancing, arts, modelling

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby JaninaCruz-Vega » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:10 pm

lutosfeet wrote:
Clayton wrote:
JoelR wrote:
hjackson wrote:I REMEMBER, GABRIELLA, MARIAM AND ESPECIALLY MARELISA GIBSON WEARING EXPENSIVE DESIGNER PIECES DURING THEIR COMPETITION !!!!


Mariam comes from a rich family so idk if she participated. If anything this just proves she bought the crown.


And for Molly she’s half Swiss so may.. she also have money!


Agree, Mariam is very rich, that's why many raised their eyebrows when she won Miss Venezuela knowing that her attitude and beauty doesn't scream MV Universe .. I wonder why how much did she or her family paid to get the crown @-) @-) @-) @-) Yeah that will answer the rumors afterall


She's every inch of a Miss Universe.
Image
Image
Too bad she can't buy the Miss Universe crown :-D
Image
User avatar
JaninaCruz-Vega
PIONEERS are the most experienced members of Missosology.
PIONEERS are the most experienced members of Missosology.
 
Posts: 5224
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:25 am
Location: GOLD COAST
Country: Australia (au)
Reputation: 2803
Real Life Name/Nick: Janina Vega
Date of Birth: 10 Dec 1985
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: Model
Western Zodiac Sign: Sagittarius
Hobbies/Interests: strutting the catwalk
Message: Say Good Day.... AUSTRALIA!!!!

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby JaninaCruz-Vega » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:12 pm

aldoteng wrote:
Kukay wrote:Prostitution is a crime .
I'm not a lawyer but I think this is a criminal case .
The police should step in .
It should not be just the Cisneros group making its own decision .


Lazily lifted off wikipedia:
Sex work in Venezuela is legal and regulated. The country's Ministry of Health and Social Development requires sex workers to carry identification cards and to have monthly health checkups. Prostitution is common, particularly in Caracas and in other domestic tourist destinations.

Whether the legal system prosecutes these players depends on the exact wording in Venezuela's laws, and whether the state is interested to prosecute in the first place: the rich guy (buyer), the pretty girl (seller), and the pimp (facilitator).

I'd imagine that the legal system is more interested in how the money was obtained in the first place. If it is proven to be illegally gained, the pretty girl might also be in trouble.


Image
Image
User avatar
JaninaCruz-Vega
PIONEERS are the most experienced members of Missosology.
PIONEERS are the most experienced members of Missosology.
 
Posts: 5224
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:25 am
Location: GOLD COAST
Country: Australia (au)
Reputation: 2803
Real Life Name/Nick: Janina Vega
Date of Birth: 10 Dec 1985
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: Model
Western Zodiac Sign: Sagittarius
Hobbies/Interests: strutting the catwalk
Message: Say Good Day.... AUSTRALIA!!!!

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Brain Beauty » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:00 pm

I hope this scandal will go away soon and MVO is working again soon so that beauty pageant fan like me can see and know so many great Venezuela queens again. [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O< [-O<
User avatar
Brain Beauty
PROFESSIONALS are DIPLOMATIC and QUALITY posters.
PROFESSIONALS are DIPLOMATIC and QUALITY posters.
 
Posts: 2701
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:43 am
Location: Ho Chi Minh City
Country: Vietnam (vn)
Reputation: 1355
Date of Birth: 21 Dec 2008
Gender: Male
Hobbies/Interests: Reading and Cinema
Message: Write a message here

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby PeterPerelli55 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:05 pm

I think this is so bad for Miss Venezuela´s reputation Osmel is killing all he created in his success years
[youtube]Xd_ouG8MTQg[/youtube]
User avatar
PeterPerelli55
GRAPHIC DESIGNERS are creative minds & beautifiers of the forum.
GRAPHIC DESIGNERS are creative minds & beautifiers of the forum.
 
Posts: 1005
Joined: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:16 pm
Location: ECUADOR
Country: Ecuador (ec)
Reputation: 584
Real Life Name/Nick: PETER PERELLI
Date of Birth: 25 Jan 1991
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: SoccerFan
Western Zodiac Sign: Capricorn
Chinese Zodiac: Dragon
Hobbies/Interests: I like soccer and gym
Message: beauty pageants soccer and pc games

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby koji » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:39 am

I knew it when that plain bitch won in 2009 and that 2013 dracula won in 2013. Now, it has come out: that Miss Universe crown can be bought.
koji
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
 
Posts: 7144
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:13 am
Country: Philippines (ph)
Reputation: 2350
Real Life Name/Nick: joey
Date of Birth: 05 May 1989
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Not sure
Profession: Farmer
Western Zodiac Sign: Taurus
Chinese Zodiac: Snake
Hobbies/Interests: beauty pageant
Message: Write a message here

  • 1

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby La Tierra » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:36 am

Really sad about these recent development.
I hope it's not the end for our Venezuelan queens.
HOLA! COME VISIT AND JOIN OUR GROWING FAMILY!

YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/c/LaReinaDeBelleza

FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/lareinapaginaoficial
La Tierra
MISSOSOLOGISTS are OFFICIALLY part of the MISSOSOLOGY FAMILY.
MISSOSOLOGISTS are OFFICIALLY part of the MISSOSOLOGY FAMILY.
 
Posts: 580
Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:55 am
Country: Philippines (ph)
Reputation: 469
Real Life Name/Nick: AAA
Date of Birth: 01 Feb 1981
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Asexual
Profession: BPO
Western Zodiac Sign: Aquarius
Hobbies/Interests: Internet, Music, Fashion, Current Events
Message: https://youtube.com/c/LaReinaDeBelleza

  • 3

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby otangzi » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:40 am

Osmel is very Clever, he left the org so that the newly appointed chairman will suffer from the damages of what he has done. He knew this was coming.
SEE THE REAL OTANGZI ON THIS LINK https://popspins.com/?bonus=82184
User avatar
otangzi
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
 
Posts: 7743
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:31 pm
Location: Jupiter
Country: Philippines (ph)
Reputation: 1437
Real Life Name/Nick: ygrob
Date of Birth: 08 Dec 1993
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: -----------
Profession: future astronaut
Hobbies/Interests: U dnt hav 2 change a thing I LUV U juz d way U R
Message: sana manok ka na lang.. pra lagi mong inuupuan.. ITLOG ko

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby JorgeInternational » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:00 pm

Image
koji wrote:Mayra Matos Claims Sexual Assault in Beauty Pageants
by Latin Gossip Staff on 03.21.2018 - Listed under Reinas

Mayra Matos, Puerto Rico’s rep at the 2009 Miss Universe contest, has made clear statements about sexual assault in the pageant world.

“Esto también pasa en *Puerto Rico*. De una manera menos organizada hay decenas de hombres a los que llamo “queen hunters”. Todos los años los mismos buscan acercarse a las candidatas de los certámenes de belleza para pagarles el certamen y/o comprarles vestidos con tal de que las mismas los acompañen a sus actividades de negocio, cenas o simplemente que los vean en la calle. Igualmente hay mujeres y promotores de certámenes de belleza que apoyan estos hombres e inducen a las chicas a conocerlos o las llevan a castings fuera de Puerto Rico para llevarlas de escolta a otros países.”

(This also happens in * Puerto Rico *. In a less organized way there are dozens of men whom I call "queen hunters". Every year they seek to approach the candidates of the beauty pageants to pay for the event and / or buy them dressed as long as they accompany them to their business activities, dinners or simply to see them on the street. There are also women and promoters of beauty contests that support these men and induce the girls to meet them or take them to castings outside of Puerto Rico to take them as an escort to other countries. ")

She adds that the women do it because of the expenses related to being a beauty queen, saying “La realidad del caso es que estas niñas lo aceptan porque competir en un certamen cuesta de $10,000 a $25,000 dólares y muchas de ellas toman el lado fácil y no necesariamente porque quieren.”

(The reality of the case is that these girls accept it because competing in a contest costs $ 10,000 to $ 25,000 dollars and many of them take the easy side and not necessarily because they want to. ")

Mayra calls out the Miss Venezuela organization specifically, saying “Cada organización de los certámenes de belleza lo sabe. Principalmente en America Latina donde también hay redes de escolta dentro de los certámenes de belleza. Aún no entiendo porque la organización del Miss Venezuela no le añade una cláusula al contrato de sus empleados, asesores, candidatas, representantes y/o asociados a que no pueden ser parte de este tipo de actividades por los valores de la empresa e imagen. Entonces, ¿Lo apoyan?”

("Every beauty pageant organization knows it. Mainly in Latin America there are also escort networks within the beauty pageants. I still do not understand why the organization of Miss Venezuela does not add a clause to the contract of its employees, advisors, candidates, representatives and / or associates that can not be part of this type of activities for the values ​​of the company and image. So, do you support it? ")

Miss Puerto Rico Universe 2012, Bodine Koehler happily dances with a rich business man, 53 years older than her! :-O
ImageImage
Image
JorgeInternational
PREDICTIONISTS are known to give sharp & accurate pageant forecasts.
PREDICTIONISTS are known to give sharp & accurate pageant forecasts.
 
Posts: 3157
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:46 pm
Country: Mexico (mx)
Reputation: 2802
Date of Birth: 25 Jul 1999
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Profession: Gossips Official Informant
Western Zodiac Sign: Leo
Chinese Zodiac: Rabbit
Hobbies/Interests: rugby, kicking - Read detective stories

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby koji » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:05 pm

Kukay wrote:Osmel himself is rich .
He doesnt have to resort to pimping .
He can easily finance whatever the needs of his girls.
He's just greedy .

Or if he's really that greedy and does not want to spend any money .... Why not use his power and influence as the MV president like what madam SMA is doing , free fabulous gowns in exchange for free advertisement of that fashion designer .

This only means that Osmel does not look highly of his girls ... He looks at them as just a piece of meat .

And literally butchering them to fit a "standard." >:)
koji
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
 
Posts: 7144
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:13 am
Country: Philippines (ph)
Reputation: 2350
Real Life Name/Nick: joey
Date of Birth: 05 May 1989
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Not sure
Profession: Farmer
Western Zodiac Sign: Taurus
Chinese Zodiac: Snake
Hobbies/Interests: beauty pageant
Message: Write a message here

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby koji » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:19 pm

The Duchess wrote:
aldoteng wrote:
manies_flip wrote:
koji wrote:Prostitution is never ok. [-X


feminists will say otherwise


Quite ironically, feminists are divided between supporting and opposing prostitution. However, there is a sweeping tendency for feminism to be against beauty pageantry.

Prostitution, if voluntary, is a private exchange between seller and buyer, both of whom decide how much the service is worth in monetary value.

Beauty pageantry is a ridiculous and farcical institution with some random people claiming to be "experts in judging beauty" and deciding who is more beautiful than others.


Feminist are actually very divided in the prostitution dialogue, and surprisingly they are feminist that do not have a problem with pageants that are more than just "who has a cute face".

Now I ask you, if you feel that way about pageantry, why are you in a forum solely dedicated to it?


Thank you, The Duchess and Aldoteng, for adding substance to the conversation. Yes, there is a bitter debate on this issue from thee same side of the fence. But there is also a third perspective that is critical to both perspective since both sides eventually marginalizes the prostitutes. I'm more evinced toward the anti-prostitution side and the third perspective with power-relations, simplification of the issue, and coercion and poverty, among others, as my main arguments.

Manies, if you're with us on the issue, you should have not raised the said argument since, so far, the narrative has exposed the arguments against prostitution. I guess, you must substantiate your argument in relation to the issue at hand. Otherwise, it is nothing but HOT AIR.
koji
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
 
Posts: 7144
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:13 am
Country: Philippines (ph)
Reputation: 2350
Real Life Name/Nick: joey
Date of Birth: 05 May 1989
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Not sure
Profession: Farmer
Western Zodiac Sign: Taurus
Chinese Zodiac: Snake
Hobbies/Interests: beauty pageant
Message: Write a message here

  • 1

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby The Duchess » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:42 pm

JorgeInternational wrote:Image
koji wrote:Mayra Matos Claims Sexual Assault in Beauty Pageants
by Latin Gossip Staff on 03.21.2018 - Listed under Reinas

Mayra Matos, Puerto Rico’s rep at the 2009 Miss Universe contest, has made clear statements about sexual assault in the pageant world.

“Esto también pasa en *Puerto Rico*. De una manera menos organizada hay decenas de hombres a los que llamo “queen hunters”. Todos los años los mismos buscan acercarse a las candidatas de los certámenes de belleza para pagarles el certamen y/o comprarles vestidos con tal de que las mismas los acompañen a sus actividades de negocio, cenas o simplemente que los vean en la calle. Igualmente hay mujeres y promotores de certámenes de belleza que apoyan estos hombres e inducen a las chicas a conocerlos o las llevan a castings fuera de Puerto Rico para llevarlas de escolta a otros países.”

(This also happens in * Puerto Rico *. In a less organized way there are dozens of men whom I call "queen hunters". Every year they seek to approach the candidates of the beauty pageants to pay for the event and / or buy them dressed as long as they accompany them to their business activities, dinners or simply to see them on the street. There are also women and promoters of beauty contests that support these men and induce the girls to meet them or take them to castings outside of Puerto Rico to take them as an escort to other countries. ")

She adds that the women do it because of the expenses related to being a beauty queen, saying “La realidad del caso es que estas niñas lo aceptan porque competir en un certamen cuesta de $10,000 a $25,000 dólares y muchas de ellas toman el lado fácil y no necesariamente porque quieren.”

(The reality of the case is that these girls accept it because competing in a contest costs $ 10,000 to $ 25,000 dollars and many of them take the easy side and not necessarily because they want to. ")

Mayra calls out the Miss Venezuela organization specifically, saying “Cada organización de los certámenes de belleza lo sabe. Principalmente en America Latina donde también hay redes de escolta dentro de los certámenes de belleza. Aún no entiendo porque la organización del Miss Venezuela no le añade una cláusula al contrato de sus empleados, asesores, candidatas, representantes y/o asociados a que no pueden ser parte de este tipo de actividades por los valores de la empresa e imagen. Entonces, ¿Lo apoyan?”

("Every beauty pageant organization knows it. Mainly in Latin America there are also escort networks within the beauty pageants. I still do not understand why the organization of Miss Venezuela does not add a clause to the contract of its employees, advisors, candidates, representatives and / or associates that can not be part of this type of activities for the values ​​of the company and image. So, do you support it? ")

Miss Puerto Rico Universe 2012, Bodine Koehler happily dances with a rich business man, 53 years older than her! :-O
ImageImage
Image


My problem with Mayra's statements is that is not the same situation, queen hunters go directly to the girls and they either accept or not. This scandal is about an organized scheme to pimp out girls with the obvious socio political situation in VZLA to men that are rich. I dont think Mayra quite grasps whats happening over at VNZL

Bodine, whatever the relationship was with Ferrer, was not pimped out by the ORG.
Image
User avatar
The Duchess
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
 
Posts: 5872
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:22 am
Country: Puerto Rico (pr)
Reputation: 6719
Date of Birth: 01 Sep 1995
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Profession: Costume Design
Hobbies/Interests: Arts, Music, Literature
Message: Write a message here

  • 0

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby otangzi » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:48 pm

The Duchess wrote:
JorgeInternational wrote:Image
koji wrote:Mayra Matos Claims Sexual Assault in Beauty Pageants
by Latin Gossip Staff on 03.21.2018 - Listed under Reinas

Mayra Matos, Puerto Rico’s rep at the 2009 Miss Universe contest, has made clear statements about sexual assault in the pageant world.

“Esto también pasa en *Puerto Rico*. De una manera menos organizada hay decenas de hombres a los que llamo “queen hunters”. Todos los años los mismos buscan acercarse a las candidatas de los certámenes de belleza para pagarles el certamen y/o comprarles vestidos con tal de que las mismas los acompañen a sus actividades de negocio, cenas o simplemente que los vean en la calle. Igualmente hay mujeres y promotores de certámenes de belleza que apoyan estos hombres e inducen a las chicas a conocerlos o las llevan a castings fuera de Puerto Rico para llevarlas de escolta a otros países.”

(This also happens in * Puerto Rico *. In a less organized way there are dozens of men whom I call "queen hunters". Every year they seek to approach the candidates of the beauty pageants to pay for the event and / or buy them dressed as long as they accompany them to their business activities, dinners or simply to see them on the street. There are also women and promoters of beauty contests that support these men and induce the girls to meet them or take them to castings outside of Puerto Rico to take them as an escort to other countries. ")

She adds that the women do it because of the expenses related to being a beauty queen, saying “La realidad del caso es que estas niñas lo aceptan porque competir en un certamen cuesta de $10,000 a $25,000 dólares y muchas de ellas toman el lado fácil y no necesariamente porque quieren.”

(The reality of the case is that these girls accept it because competing in a contest costs $ 10,000 to $ 25,000 dollars and many of them take the easy side and not necessarily because they want to. ")

Mayra calls out the Miss Venezuela organization specifically, saying “Cada organización de los certámenes de belleza lo sabe. Principalmente en America Latina donde también hay redes de escolta dentro de los certámenes de belleza. Aún no entiendo porque la organización del Miss Venezuela no le añade una cláusula al contrato de sus empleados, asesores, candidatas, representantes y/o asociados a que no pueden ser parte de este tipo de actividades por los valores de la empresa e imagen. Entonces, ¿Lo apoyan?”

("Every beauty pageant organization knows it. Mainly in Latin America there are also escort networks within the beauty pageants. I still do not understand why the organization of Miss Venezuela does not add a clause to the contract of its employees, advisors, candidates, representatives and / or associates that can not be part of this type of activities for the values ​​of the company and image. So, do you support it? ")

Miss Puerto Rico Universe 2012, Bodine Koehler happily dances with a rich business man, 53 years older than her! :-O
ImageImage
Image


My problem with Mayra's statements is that is not the same situation, queen hunters go directly to the girls and they either accept or not. This scandal is about an organized scheme to pimp out girls with the obvious socio political situation in VZLA to men that are rich. I dont think Mayra quite grasps whats happening over at VNZL

Bodine, whatever the relationship was with Ferrer, was not pimped out by the ORG.


Don't they have sponsors in latin countries? Like the asian countries.
SEE THE REAL OTANGZI ON THIS LINK https://popspins.com/?bonus=82184
User avatar
otangzi
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
 
Posts: 7743
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:31 pm
Location: Jupiter
Country: Philippines (ph)
Reputation: 1437
Real Life Name/Nick: ygrob
Date of Birth: 08 Dec 1993
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: -----------
Profession: future astronaut
Hobbies/Interests: U dnt hav 2 change a thing I LUV U juz d way U R
Message: sana manok ka na lang.. pra lagi mong inuupuan.. ITLOG ko

  • 1

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby The Duchess » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:08 pm

otangzi wrote:
The Duchess wrote:
JorgeInternational wrote:Image
koji wrote:Mayra Matos Claims Sexual Assault in Beauty Pageants
by Latin Gossip Staff on 03.21.2018 - Listed under Reinas

Mayra Matos, Puerto Rico’s rep at the 2009 Miss Universe contest, has made clear statements about sexual assault in the pageant world.

“Esto también pasa en *Puerto Rico*. De una manera menos organizada hay decenas de hombres a los que llamo “queen hunters”. Todos los años los mismos buscan acercarse a las candidatas de los certámenes de belleza para pagarles el certamen y/o comprarles vestidos con tal de que las mismas los acompañen a sus actividades de negocio, cenas o simplemente que los vean en la calle. Igualmente hay mujeres y promotores de certámenes de belleza que apoyan estos hombres e inducen a las chicas a conocerlos o las llevan a castings fuera de Puerto Rico para llevarlas de escolta a otros países.”

(This also happens in * Puerto Rico *. In a less organized way there are dozens of men whom I call "queen hunters". Every year they seek to approach the candidates of the beauty pageants to pay for the event and / or buy them dressed as long as they accompany them to their business activities, dinners or simply to see them on the street. There are also women and promoters of beauty contests that support these men and induce the girls to meet them or take them to castings outside of Puerto Rico to take them as an escort to other countries. ")

She adds that the women do it because of the expenses related to being a beauty queen, saying “La realidad del caso es que estas niñas lo aceptan porque competir en un certamen cuesta de $10,000 a $25,000 dólares y muchas de ellas toman el lado fácil y no necesariamente porque quieren.”

(The reality of the case is that these girls accept it because competing in a contest costs $ 10,000 to $ 25,000 dollars and many of them take the easy side and not necessarily because they want to. ")

Mayra calls out the Miss Venezuela organization specifically, saying “Cada organización de los certámenes de belleza lo sabe. Principalmente en America Latina donde también hay redes de escolta dentro de los certámenes de belleza. Aún no entiendo porque la organización del Miss Venezuela no le añade una cláusula al contrato de sus empleados, asesores, candidatas, representantes y/o asociados a que no pueden ser parte de este tipo de actividades por los valores de la empresa e imagen. Entonces, ¿Lo apoyan?”

("Every beauty pageant organization knows it. Mainly in Latin America there are also escort networks within the beauty pageants. I still do not understand why the organization of Miss Venezuela does not add a clause to the contract of its employees, advisors, candidates, representatives and / or associates that can not be part of this type of activities for the values ​​of the company and image. So, do you support it? ")

Miss Puerto Rico Universe 2012, Bodine Koehler happily dances with a rich business man, 53 years older than her! :-O
ImageImage
Image


My problem with Mayra's statements is that is not the same situation, queen hunters go directly to the girls and they either accept or not. This scandal is about an organized scheme to pimp out girls with the obvious socio political situation in VZLA to men that are rich. I dont think Mayra quite grasps whats happening over at VNZL

Bodine, whatever the relationship was with Ferrer, was not pimped out by the ORG.


Don't they have sponsors in latin countries? Like the asian countries.


They do, in most countries, but many of these men offer you like a far more expensive attires ect. Keysi Sayago said herself her wardrobe in Miss Universe was not the most expensive, in answer to people questioning her.

In places like VNZL the economy makes it difficult for the girls and company to thrive so they advantage of whats happening.
Image
User avatar
The Duchess
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
 
Posts: 5872
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:22 am
Country: Puerto Rico (pr)
Reputation: 6719
Date of Birth: 01 Sep 1995
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Profession: Costume Design
Hobbies/Interests: Arts, Music, Literature
Message: Write a message here

  • 1

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby The Duchess » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:47 am

So Mariam Habach has said the following:

> In the 3 years she spend in La Quinta (1 year as Miss Lara and 2 as Miss Venezuela) she has never received ANY propositions "ni para una cena/not even to one dinner".
> That she would never said yes because her parents spend 20 years raising her to do the right thing
> That is a girl chooses to do things like this for "greed" and stuff that that is on them because noone makes them.
> That if a girl is
> That if Osmel is telling you "You are fat" he is not putting a gun on you, he is putting pressure.
> That if Osmel tells you "You have to go to a dinner" He is not putting a gun on you.
> That nobody puts a gun on you in La Quinta.

-----------------

Now I don't think she would even receive propositions... she already has money so what could you really offer her she already couldn't afford?
Image
User avatar
The Duchess
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
PAGEANT EXPERTS are MASTERS & PROFESSIONAL ANALYSTS of pageantry.
 
Posts: 5872
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:22 am
Country: Puerto Rico (pr)
Reputation: 6719
Date of Birth: 01 Sep 1995
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Profession: Costume Design
Hobbies/Interests: Arts, Music, Literature
Message: Write a message here

  • 1

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby Bad Curtains Galore » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:03 am

Well, Mariam isn’t exactly good-looking (the worst-looking MV in years!) and she’s a bitch. Why would ANYONE want to proposition her? Am not surprised.

She should be thankful she has money, instead of throwing shade at the contestants who desperately needed the help of “sponsors” and whose situation was not made easy by Pimp Osmel by putting unnecesssary pressure on them!
User avatar
Bad Curtains Galore
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
ELITES are highly regarded as FINEST posters of Missosology.
 
Posts: 533
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: Paris, France
Country: United States (us)
Reputation: 1019
Real Life Name/Nick: Zuly
Date of Birth: 03 Feb 1993
Gender: Female
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Profession: Grad student
Hobbies/Interests: Stealing curtains
Message: Write a message here

  • 1

Re: BIG SCANDAL IN MISS VENEZUELA!

Postby JorgeInternational » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:55 am

CONFIRMED!
GISSELE REYES WAS THE MADAME OF THE "MISS VENEZUELA" PAGEANT
She ran a prostitution ring based in 'La Quinta' in Caracas, Venezuela. Reyes managed an upscale prostitution ring that catered to rich executives and important politics.
She made more than a million dollars in the years he was as coordinator of the pageant.

[youtube]IiDgY3L4yeI[/youtube]
JorgeInternational
PREDICTIONISTS are known to give sharp & accurate pageant forecasts.
PREDICTIONISTS are known to give sharp & accurate pageant forecasts.
 
Posts: 3157
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:46 pm
Country: Mexico (mx)
Reputation: 2802
Date of Birth: 25 Jul 1999
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Profession: Gossips Official Informant
Western Zodiac Sign: Leo
Chinese Zodiac: Rabbit
Hobbies/Interests: rugby, kicking - Read detective stories

PreviousNext

Return to GENERAL

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Jaishee


contact us to advertise with missosology

Reputation System ©'